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dennisyeoh
post Dec 5 2012, 09:17 AM

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[quote=andrekua2,Dec 5 2012, 08:52 AM]
Get a proper table for your stuffs man... thousands worth resting on flimsy table of RM100.

ya ya i am going to get a proper stand for those speaker soon there speaker are too heave for this table also

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post Dec 6 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Dec 6 2012, 02:08 PM)
if mainly for music, should get a 2.0 eg 1080 IV rather than m20w right? since their price almost same....I saw review from china said m20w no tweeter , high frequency poor performance...
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i don know about the m20w but the d1080 is certainly good for music in fact very good for its price. the vocal is very clear and bass is enough for me. but the speaker placement if very important. if this speaker is place in the wrong placement you wont get the full performance of it. and i personally feel that the speaker perform slightly better at higher volume and belive me the speaker can go really really loud. right now i don have the time wait i have the time and a better speaker stand i will write a review
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post Dec 8 2012, 02:38 AM

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P1060082 by Dennis Yeoh, on Flickr

move the speaker back home to test it out. yees i know the set up is not really that good. ok here is my small review, please take note that i am a amateur and i din own any 2.0 speaker before this. this review is base on 100% experience i have through listening different speaker and different iem and headphones

the speaker itself look really nice biggrin.gif (take a look at the picture) i have the speaker post to me and the service provided by cyntrix technologies is really good!! the speaker reach my doorstep just one day after i make the payment. good job there cyntrix biggrin.gif

ok about speaker, i have test it for almost 4 days now i am sure is burn in more than 40 hours now and i have test it out with lots of songs and here is a few so you can get the general idea

Emi Fujita - Fields of Gold
Céline Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Love theme from Titanic)
Adele -Set Fire To The Rain
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis -Ten Thousand Hours
에픽 하이(Epik High) - 춥다 (feat. 이하이)
Don Omar Ft. Lucenzo - Danza Kuduro
에일리 - [Invitation CD1 #01] 보여줄게

and this speaker is set up using foobar2000 > UD100 > swan d1080-iv
and the bass and treble is leave untouch

and when is come to 2.0 speaker set up the most asked question is how low can the speaker or how good is the bass and for me personally i feel that the bass is really enough for me. if you crank up the volume to maybe around 40% you will feel vibration smile.gif but of cause you cant take one of those 2.1 set up with 8-10 inch sub to compare to this speaker, but this speaker can go really really loud

now as for the high, trust me on this the high is good in fact very good, the high is really crispy and is not in anyway ear piercing which is a good thing for me and i belive is good for long term listening as well.

as for the mid now here is where this speaker really shine the mid is sweet biggrin.gif especially those female voice, man i just love how they sound and not to forget all the small detail that you can listen through these speaker, i mean those detail that i normally can only listen through my grado headphones

as a conclusion the speaker have a near to grado kind of signicture? but slightly warmer and not as aggressive which is a good thing in my opinion and most importantly i feel that my money is well spend biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 10 2012, 02:02 AM)
no wonder i sneeze this couple days.. =P

anyway, i am the one who really like 1080..
will look forward to test the X4..
M50 has one serious bass. and i honestly feel it pawned my aego M in every aspect...
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same here i really like the 1080 btw is it important to get a isolation pad for these speaker?
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post Dec 11 2012, 09:57 PM

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i some how realised that after sometime the speaker can get quite hot @@ is it normal?
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post Dec 11 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Dec 11 2012, 10:05 PM)
kinda normal if its not affect the sound quality. On the back of ur speaker, got heatsink onot?
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got heatsink is hot but i don think it affect the sq smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2012, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 13 2012, 03:56 PM)
M50W is a cheaper speaker. RM 709
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can i know what is the price for the h series?


Added on December 13, 2012, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 13 2012, 04:05 PM)
lol the original sound of M50W is already quite resemble with the tonal type of stock hd650.
it's warm, punchy bass, and quite balance overall. Give it a try and u might feel it's actually good enough, and which in my opinion don't even need much tweaks, just make sure you have good source to feed it.

and i don't think VDH will suits M50W. the M50W is already warm but still maintaining quite good speed in the sound signature with stock cable. changing it over to VDH such as D102mk3 cable will slow the sound even more, add more colour to mid, and even much warmer, which is a big no no to M50W imho.
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bro than what is your opinion on the d1080? need any tweaks?

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post Dec 17 2012, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(MastorJr @ Dec 17 2012, 09:07 PM)
Went to heavy arms last Saturday with my friend... Only have M50 demo since the D1080 already sold. Steve was a really nice guy, he explain a bit about the M50 capability and let us play a few songs from our ipod... My review is this speaker is a lot better than my Altec VS4121... it have a clear sound and clean bass...its good for gaming and audio speaker...but I need a speaker for a audiophile level so really hope if I can audit an M200 MK2&3...please let me know if there are available for audition...will going to visit when get to KL again...planning to get one of them if they can pleased my ears...lol...i'm not a pure audiophile but i'm enjoying music...
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lol bro the m50w price is in another level of the vs4121 cant really compare both of them no doubt the m50 kills the vs4121
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post Dec 21 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Topet @ Dec 21 2012, 10:55 AM)
speakers for the rich...hope to get one someday...
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rm500+ for a speaker not that much compare to a phone hehe and speaker last much much longer than a phone
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post Dec 23 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 22 2012, 06:55 PM)
We will take care of everything. All parts except for enclosure can be repaired or replaced. You can also buy replacement parts. Buy The products with peace of mind, enjoy the sound.
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cyntrix i have already sent a email to you regarding the tweeter please take a look
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 24 2012, 07:06 PM)
oh kk.. will both of them sound better than my sp2500, in terms of musical sound quality? let say i put it at my bedside, will it able to fill my room without losing alot sound quality? around 20-25m2 room. d1080 is cheap tho..
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erm i feel that in term of musical the 2.0 will be better than the 2.1 and i heard both the d1080 and the 2500 and i feel that the d1080 is still better.... but how are you planing to put bedside? maybe can draw a simple drawing of how are you going to put it
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post Dec 25 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Dec 25 2012, 10:09 PM)
hi cyntrix, i wan ask about in what term m200mkII over d1080 since they have same 30w/channel but different price....as i know d1080 use same bass driver as m200mkIII which is nice....

SO for bass, d1080=mkIII >>mkII ?

but by paying extra rm200, is it m200mkII has extra more crisper sound on mid and high compare to d1080?? since its bass poorer than d1080?

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i don really know about others but so far my d1080 manage to make every furniture of my room vibrate at a 50% volume and my room size is maybe 9 feet x 14 feet
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:46 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 26 2012, 03:30 AM)
Actually you are using the speaker right. Our initial impression of the speaker bass is based on an open living room. therefore, the D1080-IV has the most bass, and it still does.

Testing these speakers in nearfield should be the #1 priority when auditioning them. They are made to be listened in nearfield. Having the M200mk2 and M200mk3 nearfield, I now see why these are the top selling speakers of all time.

Stereo
-D1010-IV
-D1080-IV
-M200mk2 (If you prefer tighter bass, and don't intend to blast it)
-M200mk3 (If you prefer a more dispersed and open sound, and intend to fill a larger room/living room)
-T200B (If you prefer a more articulate, less bassy, brighter sound signature)
-X4 (Hard to describe...it's like in between T200B and M200mk3 but smaller in package and more three dimensional in nearfield)

Listening to Shelly - Snow Rose now around 3.35am at soft volume, there's virtually no difference between the mk2 and mk3....I don't even know which one was playing - they are both enjoyable when you are drowned in audio bliss. So just a friendly advice, don't buy the mk3 because it is "newer" & "more expensive". Buy it if you really like the differences and actually need the volume.


Added on December 26, 2012, 3:34 am
Skip the M200, D1080, and everything else. Your preference suggests that either T200B (RM 1599) or X4  (RM 1999) is for you. It's going to be a very hard decision when you decide to upgrade. brows.gif I can guess that 70% of the chance you will prefer the X4 over the T200B though

You come from Etys, so the D1080 definitely has "more than adequate" bass. Those who come from Senns would love the M50W and M200mk2/mk3.

Btw, PLEASE write a review when you get a chance.


Added on December 26, 2012, 3:47 am
If you are more to music, D1010/D1080/M200mk2 are the three speakers you really want to look into (RM399, RM 559, RM 729).
People found that the M200mk2 in a larger room lacks bass. M200mk3 was released to fulfill those who enjoyed the M200mk2 but wish to use the speakers in a larger room. D1080-IV has the same woofer as the M200mk3, but it has a metal tweeter, a flat rear port, and a smaller enclosure. You won't need a subwoofer biggrin.gif You are paying the RM200+ for a more balanced sound. The D1080-IV and M100mk2 have some midrange coloration. The M200 is more natural.
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you are poisoing me more cry.gif actually i wish that they wont use metal tweeter on the d1080
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Dec 27 2012, 10:06 PM)
sorry for my noob question...cuz i wan understand more the statement u answer me

IF:
m200mkIII play a 128kbps mp3 ,on board realtek
cheapo sonic gear/edifier/AL play a flac , ud100 dac

m200mkIII still win hand down?
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sonic gear vs m200mk3 = saga vs grt r35

i don know why i hate sonic gear that much also
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post Dec 29 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 29 2012, 07:20 PM)
Got my M50W from HeavyArm today. Burning-in process begins! Well the music I listen to suits 2.1 much much better. It depends on your music and you ears smile.gif
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hehe you can always add a h6 or h10 sub to a 2.0 set up biggrin.gif
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post Dec 30 2012, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 30 2012, 02:03 AM)
Time to retire that for:


When the time comes....tongue.gif
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i am just thinking if i were to add a sub to my speaker it would be from pc > sub > speaker? if both the sub and speaker are active you just control the speaker volume from the sub? because i think that currently nobody has try that before or the h sub is only for the h system

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post Dec 30 2012, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 30 2012, 02:25 AM)
Here's what we did:

Any speakers - connected to H series sub. Sub to line out. Speaker amp must be maxed out. Volume controlled from subwoofer.

However, a customer who came to my house to test the T200B and eventually bought one, found out that connecting non H series speakers to the H series sub in the method killed the imaging of the speaker. After some testing I did find that it's true. So if you intend to add a sub, I'd recommend getting a splitter and split the line out from your source.

Do you really want to add a sub to the D1080-IV? Maybe you should just grab the M50W to satisfy that bassy needs tongue.gif Or save up for the M60 5.1. The price of this M60 does not even make sense to be honest. The subwoofer is no lesser quality than the H6.


Added on December 30, 2012, 2:28 am
There are lots of choices, but for some reasons the H6 and H10 blends very well with all HiVi speakers. You'd be surprised by how seamless the H5 + H10 is. Can't say so with other setup. Listened to some Maggies with Velodyne (very popular setup) and it's very easy to pinpoint the lack of coherency.
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hahaha nope i am very happy with my current set up i am not a bassy person after all i just kinda want to know what will happen if people do that lol
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post Dec 30 2012, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 30 2012, 05:40 AM)
Your subwoofer has a polyfill stuffed inside of the port which reduces the velocity and spl but tightens the bass so that it hits lower. We did that purposely for you only. If you remove the polyfill it will increase the sub output but you will make it boomier

They are indeed audiophile speakers. Even the Rm1800 H10 does not have rated power as high as z906 but you get significantly better quality bass over a cheap ported subwoofer.

Consumer brands these days are focusing heavily on subwoofer output.

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people at headfi are really scary >< their set up is crazy
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post Dec 30 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(dasherzx @ Dec 30 2012, 07:20 PM)
I have the fiio e7, is it powerful enough to drive an mkii? interested in getting the mk2, main usage gaming, movie and listening to little bit of pop songs biggrin.gif
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is an active speaker so it has a build in amp
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post Jan 1 2013, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Dec 31 2012, 09:31 PM)
January. Only 1 pair in Malaysia. Back order it now from our dealer and you can still get yours later in the month


Added on December 31, 2012, 10:05 pmAfter spending lots of hours with the m200mk2, m200mk3, and X4. I still prefer X4 biggrin.gif Following M200mk2 for desktop use. M200mk3 too powerful and too much bass on desktop. Maybe it's just me.
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actually i am quite intrested to see how these speaker to be compare to the av40 biggrin.gif whistling.gif

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