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ham_revilo
post Oct 5 2012, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Oct 5 2012, 07:13 AM)
Dividends! Yay!  rclxm9.gif


Added on October 5, 2012, 7:44 am

I am 99% all in the market. LOL!  icon_rolleyes.gif  nod.gif
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high five. me too. i gamble all cash into stocks. no money on hand to eat also doh.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Dividend Warrior @ Oct 5 2012, 08:20 AM)
Errmmmm.....I prefer to invest, not gamble.  tongue.gif
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investing is also a form of betting. in a way tongue.gif

btw, looks like TM dont have energy to fly sad.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 5 2012, 01:02 PM)
Investing take into consideration of calculated risks, not not really a form of betting.  tongue.gif
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after calculating the risk what's next? putting up money hoping everything goes well and company makes money and share price rocket. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

btw, its just my point of view. hopefully i did not start a fire smile.gif


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post Oct 5 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 5 2012, 01:57 PM)
No hard feelings, everyone is entitled to his or her opinions. Freedom of speech.  smile.gif
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icon_rolleyes.gif whatever it is as long you make money, its good enough smile.gif


QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 5 2012, 02:11 PM)
Cos someone is cursing TM every now and then hmm.gif

TM is well known as an old man stock with Erection problem , just in case u miss the understanding part. yawn.gif
Buy with a no sell button may sound good too hmm.gif


Added on October 5, 2012, 2:16 pm

Still a long way to hit rm 50........and beyond
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i curse TM because still cannot reach the target i want.

from 2011-2012 price increase around 80% (2.5x-4.4x). this year 2012 until now around 40% only (4.4x-6.3x).

i thought with Unifi blooming steadily, it's share price can perform better than last year. but mana tau doh.gif

anyhow, a profit is profit. better than loss icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 5 2012, 02:41 PM)
As I say, u lack the understanding part yawn.gif

Like kicking an old horse to move ........

Takaful jumped 200% since I bought, but I never compare TM with it, diff asset class after all.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Oct 5 2012, 02:42 PM)
Even if Unifi blooming drastically, the stocks will not shoot up to RM10 overnight. Anyway, to be honest with you, TM actually shoot up a lot and pays the shareholders a lot in terms of div + capital repayment. To me, if you are thinking of RM10 today, it will not happen. End of the year, it might, or might not, most probably not. It is not a counter where you buy big....and hope when the dice roll out, it shows big. A lot of patience required.
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tbh, i never hope that it will jump to RM10. i was hoping around 50-60% growth which is around RM7.5 range. but i dont see how it will get there by year end.

yup, i know from the start it was an old man counter with lower risk. thats the first reason i use my emergency funds to put into it biggrin.gif

sky, woot. you got into takaful. nice call drool.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2012, 02:50 PM)
Increase 40% also not satisfy?

Increase >10% is considered good
Increase >20% is considered magnificent
Increase >30/40~100%, once or twice time or a few time in a decade only.

Over long term, market return average is about teen number,
even an average of teen number return, one at least is heading to millionaire status already over the long term.

If one is achieving 40%-80% pa. over the long term, I can assure one will be legend in the stock market, and another WB in making.  rclxms.gif
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its just my luck i guess + plus some research to profit around 40% from TM currently including divvy+capital reimbursement. btw, if not mistaken, Tan Teng Boon, founder of ICap dare say he beat WB if im not mistaken in one of his talk tongue.gif


QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 5 2012, 02:54 PM)
Well said. thumbup.gif

Someone here wants to become Super WB rclxub.gif
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you profit way more. you referring to yourself??? laugh.gif

no offense sky sifu. just joking nia smile.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2012, 04:04 PM)
I don't like to compare A win x%, B gain y%. Then A better than B or not. Pointless comparison.

Wait, you win 80% last year, and 40% this year on TM, so you also beat WB and miles better than WB.
Congratulation, you also become a legend that beat WB.  rclxms.gif

Investment is about profit or gain money for oneself, not about a race who win more or less.
It is never a race, nor can compare who is better or not.
It is an effort to make use of capital aka money make money.
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sorry bro. im not referring to anyone or directly comparing with anyone. im just stating a fact. didnt meant to offend anyone too.

no offence bro notworthy.gif

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post Oct 5 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 5 2012, 04:11 PM)
Do praise yourself for picking the right stockĀ  then to curse TM for not performing.

If TM does not perform , thenĀ  it is yr foresight problem hmm.gif
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errr... guys, im not sure what i said earlier, but i really did not praise myself or deliberately compare anything to anyone. yeah, i know sometimes i curse TM but its just a, you know a joke. is it me or its really no joking, all serious in this thread? hmm.gif

anyhow, i take back whatever i said that offended everyone. sorry guys notworthy.gif

btw, just to clarify stuff, im a very very young investor. been in the market for less than 2 years only. so i will probably be the last person to compare myself to anyone smile.gif if i did, its merely a joke of some sort and maybe my joke offended you guys too, well im sorry about that too

cheers guys icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 6 2012, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Oct 6 2012, 05:47 AM)
WASHINGTON: The US unemployment rate fell to 7.8 per cent last month, dropping below eight per cent for the first time in nearly four years. The rate declined because more people found work, a trend that helps President Barack Obama and could have an impact on undecided voters in the final month before the presidential election.

Read more: US jobless rate falls below 8pc http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz28SoCQ3S6

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wow, such a coincident with the election so near. very fishy brows.gif

anyhow, this is a news i think we will benefit. hopefully wink.gif

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post Oct 6 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 6 2012, 07:35 PM)
TM was a curse stock prior introduction of Unifi, after that company management changes and manage to turnover.
Even Digi unable to provide such return, u should be contented icon_rolleyes.gif

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in fact, digi profit/duration ratio is better compare to TM. this year digi price soar 54% while TM around 45%.

i actually wanted to sell my TM and buy up digi when it was RM4 back somewhere in july 2012. but then, i figure out that Unifi has a better long term prospect compared to digi products as people can easily change telcos. plus, my TM fund is my emergency fund so i have to play that a lil safer. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 6 2012, 08:43 PM)
I'm very impressive of your pick of TM, in fact one of my relative bought TM decades ago, this recent years only manage to see good profit from TM and Axiata.

Why didn't switch partially of TM to Digi, treat Digi as profit and let it run and work for u
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i small timer only. dont have so much TM on hand to diversify sweat.gif but good idea though. i never thought of that thumbup.gif

in fact, all big telco in malaysia doing well. Axiata, Maxis, Digi, TM. hopefully one day, Yes, Umobile and P1 will be a big player and compete with them smile.gif


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