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post Oct 9 2012, 11:05 PM

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The lag is there mainly it is due to ram not properly flushed
This can be fixed in developer option by limiting background process I limit to 2.

Other is due to bad CPU algorithem cause by making go battery last longer they set the CPU to very conservative and lag came from there.

You notice lag when running multitask like waze + what's app + fb app all running together.

You need to remember your phone only have 300 or so ram for user to use. Not a lot. Download some ram/memory cleaner do the trick

Overall the lag can be solved by widgets and apps and ICS bring so many benefitsto xperia go. Overall ICS is the way to go
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:21 PM

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So should i update officially? Isnt meddling with the developer settings void the warranty ?
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:24 PM

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As long you don't root the warranty stay

I suggest to go for ICS.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:34 PM

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anyone care to share some videos on how good the performance with ICS ? been watching youtube and this is not very appealing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwH9hBIwOxs&feature=plcp .
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post Oct 10 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(kunci_bilik @ Oct 9 2012, 11:21 PM)
So should i update officially? Isnt meddling with the developer settings void the warranty ?
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To understand the issue with void of warranty:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/unlock-bootloader/
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/

Let's take on following three(3) Sony Mobiles points of view of the void of warranty

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Please note that you may void the warranty of your phone and/or any warranty from your operator if you unlock the boot loader. See your phone’s warranty statement for details.

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Certain content on your phone may also be inaccessible due to the removal of DRM security keys and the secure user data partition while unlocking the boot loader. We advise you to create backups, since user data, settings and accounts will be removed.

With all of the above in mind, you should only unlock the boot loader of your phone if you are an advanced user with good knowledge of the technology and risks involved. We recommend standard users not to unlock the boot loader, as it is not needed. We are proud to deliver great phone experiences through our rigorously tested and official software releases.

If you are fully aware of the risks involved, and have a deep knowledge about these technologies, continue to the unlock boot loader instructions page. You should be aware that unlocking the boot loader will not give you root access. The only way to get root access is to flash a custom ROM with root access.
1) unlock the boot loader will void the warranty - if you do this, you will void your phone warranty. So, do not do it.
2) unlock the boot loader will remove DRM security keys - unique DRM keys are created for your phone. Unlocking it will permanently remove them. They won't be recovered by firmware update. Without DRM keys, your stock Sony multimedia players like Walkman app and Movies app will no longer play any DRM-locked media content.
3) unlock the boot loader will not give any root access - To gain a root access, you need to have a customized ROM that has been rooted. However, this statement is no longer valid. You can gain root access without even unlocking the bootloader and/or flashing a custom ROM via fastboot commands. This is made possible with a root script via ADB commands, busybox and su (Linux super user mode program). No fastboot commands are used at all. Busybox is needed to provide the system tools required to root the phone. A hacker named bin4ry has made this possible. See the link below...

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/new-r...ootloaders-too/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/androi...an-devices.html
http://www.pocketdroid.net/universal-root-...peria-included/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717

http://www.busybox.net/FAQ.html#whatis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_%28Unix%29

To understand what ADB can do:

http://www.hackmyandroid.com/what-is-adb-h...r-computer/1681

Will this new root method void the warranty? Well, no if we rely on Sony Mobiles insistence of unlocking the bootloader to void the warranty since the new method doesn't even unlock the bootloader or even flashing a custom rooted ROM.

If there is a failure in this root method, you can still use SEUS/Sony PC Companion to update to the stock firmware without any trouble which it will unroot your phone (Repair option). Please, do a backup properly before proceed.

Anyway, I will put a disclaimer on this since Sony Mobile hasn't provide any news regarding this new root method.

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Nor does this warranty cover any failure of the Product due to accident, modification or adjustment, acts of God or damage resulting from liquid.

http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.co...hones_US_12.pdf


The phrase "Modification and adjustment" is too broad in the meaning. Do we consider installing an app as an act of modification/adjustment to the phone?

Note: how to show it unmodified without unlocking the bootloader? Revert to its stock firmware. But how? Using Flashtool in root mode:
1) Use the new root method to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader
2) Use Flashtool to flash the stock firmware

You phone will be good as new with unmodified stock without unlocking its bootloader

This post has been edited by eclectice: Oct 10 2012, 02:07 AM
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Oct 10 2012, 12:16 AM)
To understand the issue with void of warranty:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/unlock-bootloader/
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/

Let's take on following three(3) Sony Mobiles points of view of the void of warranty
1) unlock the boot loader will void the warranty - if you do this, you will void your phone warranty. So, do not do it.
2) unlock the boot loader will remove DRM security keys - unique DRM keys are created for your phone. Unlocking it will permanently remove them. They won't be recovered by firmware update. Without DRM keys, your stock Sony multimedia players like Walkman app and Movies app will no longer play any DRM-locked media content.
3) unlock the boot loader will not give any root access - To gain a root access, you need to have a customized ROM that has been rooted. However, this statement is no longer valid. You can gain root access without even unlocking the bootloader and/or flashing a custom ROM via fastboot commands. This is made possible with a root script via ADB commands, busybox and su (Linux super user mode program). No fastboot commands are used at all. Busybox is need to provide the system tools required to root the phone. A hacker named bin4ry has made this possible. See the link below...

http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/new-r...ootloaders-too/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/androi...an-devices.html
http://www.pocketdroid.net/universal-root-...peria-included/

http://www.busybox.net/FAQ.html#whatis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_%28Unix%29

To understand what ADB can do:

http://www.hackmyandroid.com/what-is-adb-h...r-computer/1681

Will this new root method void the warranty? Well, no if we rely on Sony Mobiles insistence of unlocking the bootloader to void the warranty since the new method doesn't even unlock the bootloader or even flashing a custom rooted ROM.

If there is a failure in this root method, you can still use SEUS/Sony PC Companion to update to the stock firmware without any trouble which it will unroot your phone. Please, do a backup properly before proceed.

Anyway, I will put a disclaimer on this since Sony Mobile hasn't provide any news regarding this new root method.
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great information. you have already updated your phone to ICS, am I correct? How is the performance running on default clockspeed (200mhz if I'm not mistaken) ?

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post Oct 10 2012, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(kunci_bilik @ Oct 10 2012, 01:09 AM)
great information. you have already updated your phone to ICS, am I correct? How is the performance running on default clockspeed (200mhz if I'm not mistaken) ?
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Great! No more obvious lags unlike before the new root method.

About the clockspeed issue in ICS, I know it from somewhere but I dont know how to verify it. What I can see that the phone is now clocked at 1000MHz rather than 200MHz based on the AndroSensor app in its device info section.
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Oct 10 2012, 01:24 AM)
Great! No more obvious lags unlike before the new root method.

About the clockspeed issue in ICS, I know it from somewhere but I dont know how to verify it. What I can see that the phone is now clocked at 1000MHz rather than 200MHz based on the AndroSensor app in its device info section.
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does tweaking with the developer settings solve the lag? not really looking into rooting my phone since it's still quite new.
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(kunci_bilik @ Oct 10 2012, 01:35 AM)
does tweaking with the developer settings solve the lag? not really looking into rooting my phone since it's still quite new.
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If you are afraid of the advanced approach via the developer option (root or whatever) when you have a lag issue with your ICS update, try the repair option on SEUS/Sony PC Companion to resolve the lag issue. Possibly, it will work. Always make a backup before any update/repair. Disable any antivirus app before any update/repair.

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41810?start=0&tstart=0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692172
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/suppor...n-xperia-ps101/

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post Oct 10 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Oct 10 2012, 01:38 AM)
If you are afraid of the advanced approach via the developer option (root or whatever) when you have a lag issue with your ICS update, try the repair option on SEUS/Sony PC Companion to resolve the lag issue. Possibly, it will work. Always make a backup before any update/repair. Disable any antivirus app before any update/repair.

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/41810?start=0&tstart=0
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great feedback. is it possible for me to downgrade it back to GB? I heard that Sony Center do provide the service to downgrade, do they charge for this service?
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QUOTE(kunci_bilik @ Oct 10 2012, 01:44 AM)
great feedback. is it possible for me to downgrade it back to GB? I heard that Sony Center do provide the service to downgrade, do they charge for this service?
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I don't know. But, I tend to agree that a fee may be charged upon the service (nothing is free nowadays) depending on the warranty has expired or not.
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post Oct 10 2012, 08:45 AM

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Give and take the new ics is much more stable altgough after a while it lag a little but just reboot your phone will solve the lag so reboot your phone once a day will make your life less lag hahaha

Here is my video


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post Oct 10 2012, 11:16 AM

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I was upgrade ICS but im just use standard version 4.0.4. Can i install app into external memory card SDcard... I buy external memory card SDcard 16gb but disappointed because cannot install apps into it.

Thanks


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QUOTE(myfaruzi @ Oct 10 2012, 11:16 AM)
I was upgrade ICS but im just use standard version 4.0.4. Can i install app into external memory card SDcard... I buy external memory card SDcard 16gb but disappointed because cannot install apps into it.

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nope still cannot
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post Oct 10 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Oct 10 2012, 08:45 AM)
Give and take the new ics is much more stable altgough after a while it lag a little but just reboot your phone will solve the lag so reboot your phone once a day will make your life less lag hahaha

Here is my video

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Judging from your video I can see its quite laggy and slow. Or the Live Wallpaper is making it laggy ? Does Sony has future plans to fix this problem that almost all official updated phones are facing with?
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i just hope Sony will update to latest JB near future. smile.gif
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dont hope too much
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post Oct 10 2012, 04:18 PM

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The ICS update doesn't looks good from the video above IMHO.
Let me get this right, without rooting the phone, the phone will be clocked at 200Mhz and there is no way to change it back to 1Ghz?
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QUOTE(Dark Kai @ Oct 10 2012, 04:18 PM)
The ICS update doesn't looks good from the video above IMHO.
Let me get this right, without rooting the phone, the phone will be clocked at 200Mhz and there is no way to change it back to 1Ghz?
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You can tweak with the clockspeed by rooting.


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QUOTE(weileong @ Oct 10 2012, 02:30 PM)
i just hope Sony will update to latest JB near future. smile.gif
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I dont think JB will be on Go. The phone even lags a lil bit on ICS imagine how bad it'll run with JB.

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part of my contribution as well on ICS update performance

sorry i can't give the best quality on the video capture though unsure.gif


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