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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 1-2 ManU

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vreis
post Sep 14 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 14 2012, 01:00 PM)
Same as Vreis though I only started supporting seriously around 90/91. Coverage was poor back then compared to what it is today. Having said that, good that we stuck around. Talking about heartbreak, I have a standing bet with my friend where whoever finishes below the other will have to buy the other a bottle. Count how many bottles I've lost!
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In all seriousness, me even later than you, when started seriously in the midst of dark age of Souness. & ashamed to say I've known about Hillsborough in detail only in my 20's blush.gif

QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 14 2012, 01:00 PM)
this is the year im with Liverpool. Everton Liverpool Everton Liverpool. Ian Rush and yellow jersey.  smile.gif

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Fuh...longest supporter in this thread?? tongue.gif

QUOTE(rushmode @ Sep 14 2012, 01:37 PM)
Same as you. Big bro studied in UK and keep sending me jerseys and mags. Digger bombing from flank.. become serious in Gods era.. he still my fav Reds till now
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Same:cheers: ...still pissed about a banner that read "Who need God when we have Saint Michael"

QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 14 2012, 02:13 PM)
Oh I started supporting Liverpool yesterday!
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post Sep 14 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Sep 14 2012, 02:42 PM)
So you turned on  the telly and it just happens to be Liverpool playing and decided that was your team ? That's fate man haha.
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I actually happened to support Reds due to the name LIVERPOOL. Found it nice....Fate maybe, I dunno...
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post Sep 19 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 10:43 AM)
Yup. Wildly speculated to be Reina due to the Spanish connection but it could also be Gerrard since Torres and Gerrard are really close.

Fernando got to face it. He made a wrong career move just like Mickey (Michael Owen) and now he has to pay a big price for it. Chelsea has destroyed so many big names such as Mutu, Shevchenko, Kezman, etc. Such a silly move.
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Come to think of it, only Drogba seems to really thrives as a striker there. Anelka & Kalou is decent but always play out of position. Must be the way the team is built ard the Ivorian.
Ski - graveyards of strikers laugh.gif

QUOTE(reehdus @ Sep 19 2012, 10:44 AM)
True, but seems like with Hazard he's slowly coming back to his best. I honestly want to see him at his best again, definitely the most graceful striker I've seen in a long time.
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surely his form is coming back slowly since end of last season but doubt we'll ever see the devastating Torres we saw in Reds as injury takes it toll esp he aint getting younger & also the team is not built ard him at all.
Torres is one of the most complete players of his generation. Aragones once said, he nvr saw torres scored same type of goal twice nod.gif
Thou I think the phrase more apt for RvP.
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post Sep 19 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
In Chelsea, the main players of the team are the Gangster head duo of John Terry and Frank Lampard. They determined most of the plays. Some even said those 2 are the ones that caused AVB to be sacked. Torres only has the support of Mata and now Hazard. It clearly shows how unimportant he is to those 2.

In Liverpool, Torres is the main man, besides Gerrard and Carra. They respect him and they play to his style. If he has a barren spell, they will create tap in chances for him to build his confidence back unlike Chelsea. Gerrard and Co will always publicly back him on and off the field. This is not happening in Chelsea. Above all, the fans in Liverpool loves him more.

So now he realised which club is the real deal. Too little, too late.
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1st bold part is really true if you've seen the way the fans take to him.

2nd bold part, is it? don't think so, considering how many gaffes statements he released since he went south.

P/S: beware of ppl telling us to get over & move on....just for discussing torres. whistling.gif

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post Sep 19 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 19 2012, 11:03 AM)
Yup. I am sure Owen and Torres both regretted their decisions massively. Who would want to go from "Hero to Zero"? He even took a pay cut to join Chelsea.

PS - If they stop us from talking about Torres as a topic, we shall reply "The Freedom of Speech" biggrin.gif
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Mickey seems content enuff collecting big paychecks after his Reds career. Can't see him regreting leaving us considering his fondness of gambling. Someone have to foot his gambling needs right tongue.gif
Just think that its fortunate that the team is not us, Mikey taking the Mickey out of Toon.... biggrin.gif

As for Torres, second tots maybe considering how his post Reds career panned out. but still don't think he regrets it due to the statements he released abt Reds. Oh ya, how's Olala doing over there, Terry not targetting he, is he laugh.gif

QUOTE(reehdus @ Sep 19 2012, 11:04 AM)
Get over it and move on  tongue.gif

But seriously, you're right. Torres was one of the most complete strikers I've ever seen. I actually wouldn't rate RVP as high as him. Another complete player I feel is Cristiano Ronaldo, although he often loses out in competitions to Messi due to his selfishness I guess.

I really hope Yesil shines against the Young Boys, though I doubt he'll get a call up against MU. We're probably gonna look at Boringni and Suarez again up front. Though I do hope BR will have the presence of mind to deploy GJ as a winger, since the two newcomers might not be adjusted to the PL yet. Is Enrique still injured? Man I miss Finnan, Arbeloa and Riise
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RvP is for the nvr score 2 same goals statement. In all seriousness, RvP only started scoring freely in the past 18 mths or so. He's nvr a great scorer but a scorer of great goals in his career.
I would say CR is more complete than Torres though. Prob with CR me think is mostly of his arrogance which keeps off the neutral. Messi on the other hand seems more down to earth & low profile, which identifies to most working class ppl.
Finnan & Arbeloa, both solid & unspectacular. While Riise must've lost his shooting boots after 'that' goal, for all his shots threatened spectators more than keepers doh.gif


Added on September 19, 2012, 11:22 am
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 19 2012, 11:18 AM)
Indeed and we let him for got all of 2 million. He may have been in the last year of his contract but I thought it would have been smarter to keep him for a year rather than let him go for such a paltry sum.
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Can't help that he longed to be back to his roots though sometimes i wonder how the heck players think, for going from starter in a good team to being subs in RM. He's not the only one...loads of others are the same.

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post Sep 19 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:38 AM)
Contrary to popular belief, he isn't exactly a backup bench player at Madrid. Mourinho highly values his work rate, consistency and ability to play on both sides. He was at first predominantly used as a rotation player for both Ramos and Marcelo but no longer. Now with Ramos and Pepe at centre back, Arbeloa is a first team regular right back for Madrid. He even made Spain's first 11 with Puyol out with Ramos and Pique at centre back.
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Actually he's bought as back up then. Nothing more nothing less. Just his luck that Ramos shifted to CB & there's opening in RB. Credit to him for taking the chance with both hands. Same goes for Spain.
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 19 2012, 11:53 AM)
He was brought in as a utility player, didn't he play LB for a significant amount of games for Madrid?
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yes, whenever the first choice LB/RB is not available. Point is he's nvr brought in as first choice. Though he wanting to go back RM & a RM academy graduate plays a part. Can't help thinking back in those days, RM seems obsessed with local talents as well, seeing they also bought back Negredo, Granero & few others hmm.gif
Maybe they butthurt Barca got many academy grads on their first team & winning???
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post Sep 21 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 21 2012, 02:56 PM)
Er.. We also got Suso and Pacheco and possibly Jay will be returning from Bolton. Still abit overcrowded right?
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They're are forwards ....as for Jay, doubt he'll last long even if he returns. My gut feeling is Sahin will return to RM by end of season. Even if he wants to come here then, doubt FSG will be able to afford his wages.
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post Sep 21 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 21 2012, 03:09 PM)
Oh no. We gotta keep Suso. I'll be really annoyed if we lose him. As for Jay, I am afraid even Bolton also do not want to keep him and throw him back to us.
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Once the big 2 in Spain express interest, 100% he'll go. Its those Latin thingy, me thinks!!

Add: Not to mention Rm like to stock pile talents like no tomorrow, esp this one cost nothing wink.gif

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post Sep 21 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 21 2012, 03:15 PM)
Then what is BR waiting for? Quickly take Suso out and make him drunk and put that tortoise sign on the 5-year contract. biggrin.gif
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Seriously, give him a run on the first team, then offer him new contract. Most kids left because of limited opportunity
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post Sep 21 2012, 03:33 PM

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Suso's good no doubt even when he's back in Spain. Need some convincing on RB part for him to come over. No its really depends on him whether to stay on. How ironic that pew pages back ppl mentioned Suso can replace Sahin in the event Sahin goes back RM. Now we facing prospect of losing both to RM biggrin.gif
He'd turned down RM to come here once due to better first team, logically. If he don't get it here, might as well go away rather than stagnant like Pacheco who was once the brightest in Barca cantera.
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post Sep 22 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Sep 22 2012, 02:01 PM)
Downloading being Liverpool HD
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post Sep 24 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 24 2012, 10:36 AM)
Well that's a little overboard if you ask me. Sure he made some really bad decisions but its not worth his life. Cancer is a serious issue.

The article also said it was the mancs who started goading us during the 13th minute of the game and that all of two Liverpool supporters stayed back to retaliate. Two lads is hardly a mob or in this sense, the away end. Pathetic trying to pin this on us. Don't expect any less though.

As referee, Halsey is obligated to award a penalty only if he is absolutely sure beyond all reasonable doubt that there was an infringement. The same applies when you send someone off. Valencia had apparently been fouled by the grass which is why the penalty was awarded. Explains why Johnson wasn't carded because he would have been sent off had he brought down a player bearing down on goal. Given that the blade of grass wasn't on Fergie's team sheet however, Mark Halsey could not issue a card.

Jonjo Shelvey was sent off because of the fine print in the rule that no one reads. That is, if you happen to injure yourself while making a reckless challenge, you get sympathy from the ref and will be exonerated from punishment. Shelvey has only himself to blame for not clutching his foot when it made contact with the bottom of Evan's boot. Had Shelvey done so, both players would have been given some TLC and told to play on.
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This is what I thought as well. Both went in on 50-50, & the girlie cried & the opponent got sent off? Seriously Shelvey should have rolled ard 5 mins or so shakehead.gif
Suso as well should've stayed down since he's lunged by 25mil piece of glass rolleyes.gif
On a serious note, did the angle of referee played a part? I meant the one he saw lunge in first is the culprit no matter the outcome. Few occasions I observes the refs most likely issued cards to the one lunge in first or the first he saw lunged in, no matter if the second one lunges in with even worst tackle.

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post Sep 24 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Sep 24 2012, 12:09 PM)
not even a minute into 2nd half laugh.gif
in 2-3 years time when he becomes a regular 1st teamer..i can see barca or madrid come sniffing..put 50m release clause i say
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IF he doesn't put in signature to new contract soon, that day may not be 2-3years, rather 2-3 mths. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 24 2012, 12:22 PM)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xttcan_li...-analysis_sport

even gary neville thinks its a penalty for suarez
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Doesn't he seems to mellow down & rational alot now that he's aging? hmm.gif

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