As someone who is interested in cars, today i finally get to test drive this potong pravia .

put aside the interior design and everything, will discuss purely on the test drive experience.

Findings:
1. a lot of teh tarik hooks,
2. big boot space
3. rear sear design could be better, not comfy ( compared to potong insaplah, which is conveniently available in the same showroom )
4. handbrake design could be better.
5. arm rest height way better than potong insaplah.

Test drive
1. 1st and 2nd gear ratio makes the car lures fast.
2. 3rd 4th 5th gear is....slow. very slow. i feel like changing it makes the car roar, but do not feel any accerelation. ( yes, i did check the speedometer, saturday 9am morning, highway is clear, no car, so i can speed and look at the meter without fear)
3. at below 60km/h, the cvt noise is crazy. omg..this is the biggest problem, way way bigger than anything. so fcking noisy. the turbo noise is nothing compared to this.
4. when wanna change lane, the car is powerless at 80kmh. i feel very very not confident to cut out and accelerate. in short, acceleration at 80kmh can be better.
5. tried 80 to 140 on an empty road. well, i have better experience in 1.6 and 2.0 forte, 308thp, and 1.8/2.0civic. in short, even 1.6forte feels more power. is that cvt that bad?
6. handling, tried do some funny cornering. not bad, but, i did the similar kind of cornering with honda insight, pretty similar. and those are not funny stunt we do daily. so, no clear advantage even for proton handling.
7. this car will make rear passenger car sick. the tuning might be for sporty handling, but the power doesnt match, so i would prefer the tuning they done to insaplah( which i tested back to back). the insaplah is way faster, way better, and rear passenger will not car sick when i do fast driving. for pravia, normal driving already causes car sick....hmmm.

tldr version : rm72999 i would recommend my frens cars below
1. if u wan fast and furious, dont care about fc, just have this budget, can take a look at 1.6 forte low spec. and the car is very quiet compared to pravia.
2. family man, can consider vios, which is cheap to run, faster in city run(due to lower weight, aka milotin)
3. really a petrolhead, 1.8 manual inspira. will eat this car, anywhere, anytime, and make your rear passenger comfy when u smoking ppl/pravia on the road.
4. buy pravia, when u just to buy a proton at this budget, with all the bells and whistles and 4 airbags. dont think too much on performance. and invest in sound proof.

competitior.
1. any two liter car : pravia is no match from 80kmh onwards. below 80 need to drag in real life in order to know.
2. city vios : those car has better power to weight ratio and returns better FC. similar priced vios with lower interest rate,
3. 308thp: a very good car with a very good engine. pravia cant even smell smoke. tested 190 on kesas in 308thp for test drive. pravia i hunt gears to try to push it beyond140 in auto, S, manual mode.

this is my finding.

if u have rm72999, must buy a top spec car with good bang for buck, pravia it is. but, also can take a look at my comment and judge which type of buyer you are.

inbe4 pravia test drive car spoilt, not using latest ecu and so on.


Engine
1.6 CFE is to fix the disadvantages on 1.6 campro. but to say its a match to 2.0NA....i dont think so.

kindly go to any peugeot showroom to test 1.6 turbo prince engine, that is a 1.6 turbo done right. ( and the salesman would love to let you try, because they are pretty sure it will seal the deal )

Alert:
CVT whines, very loud ( at least on the test drive car, and also, maybe the car is relatively quiet, so it makes the whine very very apparent.)



This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 2 2012, 09:52 AM

1.8 manual inspira for me

i've driven preve, city, civic 2.0, lancer, and vios. preve pwn them all.

before i clicked this thread, in my mind was 'fuk this shit inspira ftw'

Preve top quality - on par with 3 Series, A4, C-Class

The CVT is the major let down in the car. Other than that should be all good.

I wanna drive

Preve it greatest car ever make by humankind

so STFU ts

i dont care....coz i will not buying any potong car

Preve is a Proton attempt to produce world class car (at last). Though their intention is good, but they are too forgiving. To many of their managers and engineers have become too complacent in the long years of federal protectianism. They need to whip up some asses if they want to compete.

best car in the world is inspira

second one is preve

u must test drive if u have the chance.

the cvt in potong insaplah is miles ahead comparedto pravia.

1. noisy . so damn noisy at low speed.
2. at high speed, when change gear, noacceleration feeling, just number is changing and engine roar like lorry.

insaplah is quiet, and have the manual like feeling in manual mode( not entirely manual, but, i say 40 % feeling) when u downshift, it lures and goes faster and faster. when upshift, it will have the upshift feeling, like, hey, u decided not to strain the engine, thanks pal.

but pravia, hmm....no feeling in 3456 gear. only 1,2 gear has feeling.

moar positive comments liek diz need to be published!

First up I'd like to clarify that there are no gears in a CVT.

The gears are a set of virtual ratios controlled by the ECU or TCU.

It's nothing a reprogram can't fix if the gearbox can take the torque but I guess Punch/Proton decided to program it in a conservative manner.

i guess jatco is better than punch.

the cvt in nissan slyphy is also very good, very responsive.

All manufacturers will be conservative with TCU programming since warrantying a gearbox is nuts and plus with 10 years powertrain warranty some manufacturers are offers, it becomes an issue of cost.

Even Mitsubishi/Getrag, my GB shifts like a grandmother in normal mode. Which ironically destroys the clutch plates faster lol.

The CVT in inspira used torque based converter. The one in preve used wet clutch CVT.

A wet clutch should always transfer power better than a torque converter but at the expense of noise.

My Getrag has heaps of clutch noise.

Honestly I don't even care, my family doesn't even know it exists I'm just glad the sales aren't as good as expected.

Paul Tan like this

of cos this is a JDM

insaplah ts > all

u r rite, ts...

I prefer Inspira than preve..
smooth power delivery and comfy..

well this thread is started by person who has history of bashing proton to the end.

what do you guys expect how the review would be

*hint pravia

You cannot compare preve to k5
Apple must compare with apple!

very good review

are u serious?
or u just trolling?

if you believe he's being serious..

mana your best friend AiXXX from jepang?

not sure how u drive but for me..

preve cfe power is equivalent to low spec 2.0 car, not comparable to inspirar, but not that far off either. safe to say maybe like a 1.8 car

about the acceleration, being a cfe it doesnt feel the jerkiness of manual/4/5speed auto, even if using its pedal shift its very little, sometime, making a illusion car is slow.

when to overtake, drive aggresively, use the pedal shift/manual mode, or shift the gearbox to S mode. it will let car rev to 4-5k rpm for better acc. if in D mode, take forever to reach 120 from 80 acc in overtaking. but yes, even like this i do feel it somewhat slow, maybe due to illusion of a turbo engine should go faster...

and not sure about the cvt sound...

my friend bought one,

then got some weird sound from the axle, so sent back to proton,

after got it back now the parking sensor broken

4 speed tech on Myvi, ALza, Avanza is the best
enuf said

JDM/CONTI> Preve> Jepun celup 3rd class

my friend.. my neigbour... my uncle... my bla.. bla.. bla..

hmm, even if compared with forte 1.6, the forte has more feeling in acceleration.

and when i checked the speedometer, i really struggle to push it. i hunt gear like crazy, and it will auto upshift even in manual mode, and its not very high rpm( i think 5xxx rpm)

in other words, even 1.6 forte are more willing to go up higher speed. ( but i must say, the gearbox in forte 1.6 6 speed is not bad)

ei, i did not bash the car la.

i only posted photo/forward mail

and let the shitstrom kambing

i never say, Hey this car " sucks, stupid, bad, bla bla bla, only a xxxx will buy this car"

no right? you can check back

but i did use some bad words when i was replying to the JDM hardcore fan though

the reason of sluggishness is to comply with european emission regulation, and the characteristic of cvt itself. try to compare with few other car with cvt transmission, then give us what you think.

inspira 2.0 is good..invecs III cvt is superb..

I mean if you want to review car, please be neutral. Your choice of words and how you mock makes your review untrustable.

european emission regulation

lol, really?

This post has been edited by Proclaimer: Sep 2 2012, 09:36 AM

erm, compared to

Slyphy- slyphy is very smooth and very powerful at low speed, not so powerful on mid to high rev. ( ok, maybe its an uncle car)

insaplah- not powerful at low speed, unless you try to rev till 6krpm at 1st, 2nd gear. but the power is very very good at 3rd/4th gear onwards. 100kmh-160kmh is without hesitation. ( can give more detail because tested this back to back ). ok, i understand thats the advantage of 2.0 NA engine.

forte 2.0- feels good from low to high speed, the 6speed gearbox is good when paired with the powerful 2.0 engine.

the CVT on pravia CFE is lack of manual feeling at 3rd onwards, it didnt feel like its on manual mode, because there is no feeling at higher rev ( like when you are over rev, the car will like pull pull, and reminds you to upshift).

it actually feels....wooden. if u ask me, i would say, the best way to drive this car, is leave it at S mode ( which will be 1000rpm higher, as what SA told me).

my experience is definitely different from paultan and topgear, because i'm concentrate solely on the performance, and what the petrol head thinks.

all in all, i would say, to really compare this pravia ( well 114a is in effect) , i would say, one should also try insaplah 1.8 or even CVT , to give a fair comparison ( since its in the same showroom, not so convenient to ask anyone to drive another 30 mins to kia/honda/toyota showroom to try another car, right? )

its not to belittle this car, but just stating my view.

VIOS J spec can enter euro market ke??

bash proton.. praise perodua ( Japan DNA).. make me feel soooooooooooo JDM

4 speed of myvi, avanza, vios > CVT

0-100, i think you might be right

if u drive PREVE S mode.. no sluggish at all.. in fact you scared to drive cos it is too responsive n powderful
means the sluggishness not due to engine or transmission.. but the mapping and setting of ECU itself

This post has been edited by Ai609: Sep 2 2012, 10:00 AM

0-100
preve CFE CVT S Mode > Myvi, vios, avanva > CVT D mode

S mode soo powderful ooooo

Than you, Nissan currently have the best CVT in the market. Unlike other CVT in the market that use steel belt, Nissan use toroidal CVT which can withstand higher torque.

I believe if Proton use manual or conventional torque converter automatic transmission Proton can improve Campro CFE performance because currently proton is limiting Campro CFE torque number because of Punch VT-3 torque is limited to 220 Nm. Proton leave 15 Nm threshold to prolong the transmission lifespan

Stop it! Don't start flaming here

Daihatsu in Japan producing CVT for their K cars and Dumb 4 speed Tech to ASEAN 3rd world country... but ah beng in maresia love so much japanese shit... 4 speed Japang > all

is proton paying you or are you sucking up to a car (?) for free?

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Sep 2 2012, 10:10 AM

bash proton... praise ASEAN made japan car .. make me sooooooooooooo JDM

Preve is a piece of shit made by a shitload company called potong.

Bro, Proton is suppose to luanch Preve in Australia this month, you write review like that how are those Assie dare to buy Preve? BTW all the PROFESSIONAL car reviewers never write anything close to what you write, ALL of them said PREVE can reach top speed 200km/h easily and pride of continental standard

if PREVE is flop in Australia it will flop in M'sia too

since when? if anything i hate honda ricers and toyota.

way to go dumbass.

r u driving JDM and buy ur car from overseas like me??
if u buy ur car in Malaysia. ( Proton, perodua, UMW, Honda ,Kia naza Tan Chong). u support all BN cronies..)

not sure about 1.6 forte coz didnt drive it, but the cvt 2.0 inspira also lack feel of speed. even myvi feels powderfol than inspira in term of pulling feel (but actually inspirar is faster acceleration). i guess its just cvt characteristics.

other than the acceleration, cvt sound, engine power, your other review is the same experience as me.

the only real competitor for preve is forte, city, inspira with preve win the best bang of buck, but lacking prestige and slight quality drawback.

myvi, vios avanza.. .. u drive at 100.. feel like driving at 150

preve.... u drive at 150.. feel like driving at 100

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Added on September 2, 2012, 10:51 amcity and vios got no.. 4 airbags, ESP... thats why rakyat ops to PREVE...heheh

ah beng butthurt

This post has been edited by Ai609: Sep 2 2012, 10:51 AM

u need to keep reving to get power. vrooom vroom.

on my xtronic cvt, very responsive, continuous power thro out acceleration, rpm doesnt drop and no cut off power during gear change like manual or conventional auto cars..

nissan toroidal CVT only found on one rare model of skyline sedan. xtronic cvt are using belt cvt

this car have turbo right? probably the tuning is not good so when its in low gear it got feel .. high gear need to higher rev to get the feel.. anyway i haven test drive it .. but insaplah's ok la ..

what stupid fool dumb shit word u used?

Potong 'INSAPLAH'?

just go to hell u.not same thread again..

This is how a review should be made....

you are right, but at 80-140kmh, its totally different.

i tried at 4th gear pull to 5500rpm. and then 5th gear, in insaplah ( must thank the SA for his patience, recommended by a fren of mine, otherwise i cant test for such a long time, spent like more than 1 hr)

well....er....you should try that

cant have the similar result with pravia cvt&engine combo

LMAO




bro, 114a....114a

definitely, really hard for me to drive fast on myvi, feels the car too fast. taking corner when >100kmh is too scary
i never drive preve yet but i drive persona before and the cornering (high speed) definitely better than myvi

so i bet preve must be better than persona at least

my review( actually is test drive experience, solely focus on speed ) is not a complete one. i'm more to the speed part, and i can see they look at insaplah, and improve on stuff that insaplah lack of. Such as the arm rest, the teh tarik hook, and the boot. that is a to them

I think u get his wrong... What he said.. Myvi vios feels fast but actually not fast.. Coz when u drive them fast.. U feel floating n sound comes everywhere make u feel the car so fast...


Yet preve.. U drive at 150 .. So stable n silent.. And u feel the car not fast.. But actually its fast

Agree
Driven Ford Ranger, Ford Everest, Hyundai Sonata and Toyota Hilux many times adi.
At 140km/h
No feel.
Feel like at 100km/h.

Then those lala myvi and saga have to gtfo cause their car is flying.

Ironically my car is Saga.




But the fastest speed I ever had in a car in VW Golf.
Haha almost 220km/h

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Sep 2 2012, 01:07 PM

TS not a neutral car reviewer, enough said... he just go test drive with target in mind to really bash no matter how good that car is ..

if not, he will use proper name for proton car and not pravia or insaplah.. typical malaysian ..

but in the end, just dont listen to others, its ur money so better test drive first before buy.. if its good enough for u, why care about others stoopid comments...

Thank god sales for this car is shittier than expected. Pls go bankrupt faster proton

proton didnt publish breakdown for june 2012 sales figure..
I wonder how many sold, ?

for April+may = 3k + only from the reports online.

The market disagree with you, in Jan-June 2012 Perodua sell 92,923 units, Proton sell 72,836 units meanwhile Toyota sell 36,162 units. half of Proton and Perodua sale volumes

Source

err.. i'm sure you would like to compare national cars with each other (like P1 vs P2) and other imported brands separately?

in the source link there are everything, besides what model they sell the most.

+1

read, remember the salient point, and test drive urself to judge. in the end, its ur money.

as TS say he is petrolhead, surely preve not to his liking (performance wise), i agree. preve is like a family car, not design for hard acc and speed. my petrolhead cousin say preve is a girl car as it doest not jerk or 'feel the acc' at all (of coz compared to his manual integra).

i own persona, preve is my sis car, inspira is my dads car and accord 2.4 (2005) is our family car.

preve is like luxury version of persona(comfort, feel, noise insulation) with improved power, nothing more.

accord>inspira>preve>persona. like the old saying, there is no replacement for displacement . and with a bigger displacement, a bigger built car with more luxury and comfort.

This post has been edited by izzizahari: Sep 2 2012, 01:24 PM

what is pravia? a pariah car?

careful, later some dumbass letak cop saying u pro JDM

then maybe you can also compare Y on Y figures for june 2012 vs 2011? proton got 14% drop why ar??, while T H & N rose 55, 39 22%..

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/in-the-fina...p-in-june-.html

whats JDM?

who the hell knows. protonfags while about this all the time. ketuk sikit terus melatah

japan domestic market cars not sold else where in the world unless grey import

I'm not a market analysis, my knowledge is limited. But logically thinking people don't buy new car every year. Of course the market will fluctuate every year.

err.. the gist is that market in 2012 is growing, up 2%.. while proton's figure dropped 14%.. no need analyst to figure that out.


http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../pero3/Article/

u mad? why sound so angry

so butthurt....i tell you, any poor fellow was driving saga all the while will find this pravia very very very good!! or insight, or myvi, or new saga flx, or persona or new viva. because his old saga sucks. BUT, if you go try out vios/city/insaplah/fiesta/207 and so on, then you get a different picture.

i never commented its good or bad. i'm saying, its not as godly fast as it is, and its not the final word in handling.

if u wanna outaccelerate with 1.6CFE with 2.0 liter car, i would ask you to forget about it.

oh, the funny name pravia? because when i was posting the green pravia with paper all over it, i was worry potong wanna sue me or something. (though they admitted in facebook its their problem).

my review is about fast and petrolhead. let me guess...you very butthurt....and u never walk in other showroom before....

This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 2 2012, 01:53 PM

wow.....

you must be busy on friday night, whose car you wanna borrow out for fast and furious

As of now till aug .. 16k unit already sold and otr.. 4 months after launched and ave 4k/mth for 70k price is good enough laa

Ah beng butthurt

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Added on September 2, 2012, 2:22 pmTS butthurt coz everyday working hard influence ppl not to but preve.. Yet 16k oredi sold after 4 mth launched

This post has been edited by Ai609: Sep 2 2012, 02:22 PM

Pro jdm.. Praise jdm pretending jdm owner.. But end up with myvi, vios and avanza

This post has been edited by Ai609: Sep 2 2012, 04:11 PM