Now Drow better than BH in invis and gank.

tomorrow only got. Now only release in test client right?
I think tomorrow u don't have chance to take as too many ppl rush to pick it.
I think blademail should be very important item to counter drow.

This post has been edited by diehard1979: Oct 25 2012, 02:01 PM

refresher ulti the best.

Hard to gank drow, need dust plus at least 2 person go for hunting. Without these, sometime even the hunter will die rather than kill the drow.

Dota new patch update.
My nightmare had arrived.

both, centaur can give them max movement why very hard to run away from them when flee.
With latest skill and shadow blade(which common item for drow) it become the great hunter rather than BH.
Invis pop out shot then silence, that hero sure die. For BH, sometime u still got chance to get away.
Plsu both drow and centaur give teammate global benefit.
New rules, new style, new challenge.

Actually they already release on dota1 , if it is imbalance, they should nerf it b4 release at here. With this ulti, only DS and wr can run away.
Other hero either have blink skill or blink item to run away.
Shadow blade can't help much as the dust can counter invis and their max movement spd fast or equal than shadow blade movement spd.

high dmg with lifesteal can counter CW.
Fast attack with low dmg is bad vs centaur.

That match suppose we can win easily.
We got riki, drow and luna.
If they get shadow blade.
In mid time, 3 heroes can go to gank. They sure die.
Qop in mid lane suppose can win me, but I dunno why she seldom blink in poison and ulti, if not I sure die a lot. Normally Windrunner cannot fight qop in mid lane.
Our luna say she got 1000ms ping and keep disconnect. This make us only 4vs5.
Then riki farm too few, until late game only got HoD and SnY.
Dire quickly push in and destroy top rax. Then later btm rax also gone.
Their naix and centaur quite tank and strong.
Luckily still win in the end but radiant with this kind of heroes should not take that long and that hard to win this match.

CW not using ulti?
then he use CW for what?
That is like tide, ancient tree, enigma not using ulti. Hero with good AOE ulti that not using in teamfight is a waste.

Valve give too much key and gift already. Now full of leaver and some farmer.
They should give ppl IQ test b4 issue key to them.
Some ppl only want to farm 25 min without giving help at all. Even opponent already destroy 2 tower, the furion still can keep farm in jungle.

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Added on October 28, 2012, 3:18 pmA good match although lose.
https://dotabuff.com/matches/54429659
Witch doctor and rubick very helpful.
Too bad we lose to opponent 3 strong ulti.
Tide blink in ulti, void wave in ulti, then centaur ulti
Plus their pudge very good at hook, so no choice have to lose.


This post has been edited by diehard1979: Oct 28 2012, 03:18 PM

actually they give too much to centaur ulti.
A low mana, low cd, got dmg, plus stun and global plus give max spd.
so far none of hero can have such a skill that give so many thing at once.


This post has been edited by diehard1979: Oct 28 2012, 04:03 PM

today morning and evening all ok.
Night suddenly fps drop less than 30, I have to off most of setting to get back fps 60
I think too many ppl in server already.
Want to confirm whether is bug or not.
Windrunner windrun suppose able to prevent dmg from centaur "return" or not.
It is physical dmg but now my windrun cannot prevent that dmg at all.
Where to report this bug?

CW should call as Centaur Winrunner, cos mostly win plus it can run so fast with ulti

My windrunner also cannot compete with it.

He is pudge counter? why? how?
I feel that it is windrunner counter. I cannot focus fire him at all, I FF him, I die faster than him.

His ulti not only force us to watch him out, but it also given teammate which sometime ppl hide in jungle near your lane suddenly out, then centaur on ulti, with that distance and movement speed, they sure get you. Even windrunner got windrun to run, when you see someone out, it is already very late. There is nothing to prevent you from his ulti rush except you got blink, force staff, or bkb. Shadow blade cannot help much cos u still get the stun in that aoe.

Not only pudge, nage web or anything that trap ppl, then when you walk in, centaur on ulti, they hero auto stun you plus run away.
Got map awareness can help a little only cos you cannot outrun from them.
So far only windrunner and dark seer can get max movement or dark seer let 1 of hero move fast. Now everyone 1 in whole team get max speed with dmg and stun.

Naga can help some only. It only work when there is teamfight but it cannot save teammate that in other lane when suddenly ambush by other hero with centaur ulti.

eg. those low hp range hero such as sniper, drow, venom...., most of the time when chase by ursa, night stalker,.... (in lvl 6), most of them will not able to run away and mostly kill by them. Now with centaur ulti help, those hero can't even get near them cos it will auto stun and dmg themselves. It provide centaur team with too much mobility advantage and "self auto protection shield" compare to other team.

Dark seer can give 1 hero fast movement speed but not together with "shield".

eg. In level 6, Axe mostly will not able to farm blink dagger yet so it is not easy for him to get near hero and Berserker's Call but now if he team with centaur, he can be very effective even in level 6, centaur give him movement speed, he run near, opponent get stun, he battle hunger then Berserker's Call, finally ulti. Ward cannot help u as he is not hiding ambush, he just simply farming same lane with you, in front of you, most range hero is 600 range, so when centaur and axe also level 6, he ulti, then the axe sure can reach the opponent range hero.

I also love centaur but hate his global only.

rubick good with witch doctor, he stun whole team, curse ward, you move 1 up, let ward hit free, then put back on their hero location, another stun. All eat the curse and death ward plus rubick fade bolt.
Then for naix, any hero that can blink or with blink dagger will be deadly.
You blink near opponent, naix pop out, that one sure die.