+1 ... At least singapore control only allow the people that will make contribution to enter the country ... Malaysia ... You know i know ... Using students pass, certain goverment department is corrupted, they come here not for studying, the reporter go to few college to check out their class, either empty or just class with 1 or 2 students. Where are others students that they imported from african ... These kind of colleges are so irresponsible ... They make money from giving permit to stay in country to these african students ... As long as these student pay money school fee.... They allow them to stay as student, and dun really care what are they actually doing in out country ...

The Cyberjaya that was intended to be is no more... The plan that McKinsey headed has failed since the Economic Recession.
There was a promise where the big guys like Microsoft, Google, etc would setup a shop in Cyberjaya... but due to the recession, they fleed and Cyberjaya is left to dust...
The only thing it can be now, is another township... but it has to be a better one since there's an opportunity to plan from scratch and not ended being a congested unplanned spaghetti township...
Yes all is not lost, there is still faith in Cyberjaya looking at the current development.

for those who invest in cyberjaya, i got a question.

what do u think of putrajaya? its nearby, it got more office, and better lifestyle. good community as well.

for example, 2 storey house at presint 18, near d lake seems like a good buy. From there to cyberjaya work place is not that far. and putrajaya is more lively than cyberjaya..for now at least

No developments can become properous without multiracial society. 1 race population will not help the development, regardless of any 1 race.

Those 99pc occupied by one race, is gov quarters, and they need to return the house to gov later. its not belong to them. like where is stay now is open to all, near presint diplomatik, infront of my house, is a couple where d husband is a dutch. next to him, chinese family, next to the chinese family, is a taiwanese couple, infront of them, got this uncle mat salleh. ive seen many mat salleh also around this area. perhaps since its near to presint diplomatik. and its open to all.
u can visit PJH. they have many lots taht open to all. good location, nice view and putrajaya is FREEHOLD! plus u have everything here, to deal with gov agencies is very convenient, then hosp gov which is quite new and big also here. only pay d minimum amount. got alamanda.

in my view, if u wanna stay with family. putrajaya is better than cyberjaya. i can see many expats will choose putrajaya over cyberjaya with np. since many of my neighbour is mat salleh

for rental to students, cyberjaya better.

How is this compared to Skypark? 

SP setia apartment in presint diplomatik is coming up. price around 400k and above. just opposite alamanda and on the same precint got Nexus international school itself. There is another condo, jsut facing the lake, by PJH i believe, that one is around 700k-800k. very spacious. i cannto remember d name
Nah, sorry. i believe the other way. Students yes, will flock in cyberjaya. expats, i believe prefer putrajaya more. its for family, why u want to neighbour with noisy students?

its matter of opinion. i respect yours. time will tell

check my first comment again. .i stay near Presint diplomatik, shop is aplenty over there. u can google "presint diplomatik" just in case u dont know where is that. walking distance to mamak, nasi arab, malay food, tutti frutti, snogurt, mydin. and less than 1-2km to alamanda. can go watch movie etc etc.

free house? i never heard of that. its just lease to them, contract over and off they go. thats why many retired gov servant stay at pinggiran putra once they finish their term with the gov.

they can opt to buy house in putrajaya but they cant buy gov quarters. Anyone can buy in putrajaya (im not working for gov, still can buy, my parents as well stay in putrajaya, both not working for gov). Like i sed, chck my first comment. my neighbours is chinese, taiwanese, mat salleh, dutch, and a few malay.

thats why, to buy cyberjaya/putrajaya, its better u ask someone staying there. outsider input can be so so, but to understand the community and more about the place. better ask the locals.

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Added on October 10, 2012, 7:35 pm

i can agree with that. for own stay is good. much better than cyberjaya. for rental play and flipping. not so. the market is quite small.

thou im enjoying the scenary of police patrol on their house doing patrolling in my area. nice breeze during afternoon, and no traffic jam. shortcut to KLIA without need to pay toll is available, straight to KL can use MEX.

my opinion that i want to higlight is, if im an expat, i dont choose cyberjaya over putrajaya.

I had survey that area before to be honest before i start surveying cyberjaya...

currently surveying kelana jaya but it's already too late as well

I've checked presint diplomatik before..good neighbourhood..but HM doesn't like the idea staying in non GnG..and for malay dominated only for the govt quarters area..and no such thing as free home for them except for SecGen..govt servant entitle for 25% disc while petronas staff entitle for 15%..

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its important to differentiate from

"Asking price" and "valuation price" from valuation agency appointed by bank.

in this crazy skyrocketting price, many claimed that their house price is double etc etc. but what its actually worth?

someone might say, his house last time is 200k, now is 400k. so he want to sell it for 400k.

but when proceed to bank, bank only valued it 300k. and value of loan he can get is based on 300k, not 400k.

so its important, to know d difference between "asking price" and "valuation price". many crazy price up and down now merely is "asking price". what the real price they got? need to ask valuer or bank liao

its important to differentiate from

"Asking price" and "valuation price" from valuation agency appointed by bank.

in this crazy skyrocketting price, many claimed that their house price is double etc etc. but what its actually worth?

someone might say, his house last time is 200k, now is 400k. so he want to sell it for 400k.

but when proceed to bank, bank only valued it 300k. and value of loan he can get is based on 300k, not 400k.

so its important, to know d difference between "asking price" and "valuation price". many crazy price up and down now merely is "asking price". what the real price they got? need to ask valuer or bank liao

iIf u own the college you may do the same too. Nobody can stop anybody that have money and want to study. Competition is stiff. If not who pay for all the utility bill? It's easier for owner not to rent apartment to them than blaiming college accepting them. Nobody knows they r genuine student or not during application. They may furnish their background in education impressively. Down to the bottow if owner do not rent to this particular race or college restrict them particularly in dormitory, it's more easy to control. To sum up all together, why they die die want to pick Malaysia and not neighbouring country? It's all thanks to our law enforcing department and custom that unable to perform.

Putrajaya is a nice place to stay and worth it to invest in the long run..although not 1 malaysia now..soon more non-malays will start moving in as KL/Puchong become too expensive..

For you info, Last time I study eng cost in year 2004 I studied IPTA cost per sem is only 1.1k+ per sem. Total 4 sem full cost only around RM9k. Excluded all the books in engineering. That's equivalent to S$5k.

The rental is dirt cheap also compared to Sin. Besides the pol*ce attitude and C*st*m officer attitude is super slack. It's a perfect utopia for blackie to sell watever they like and commit whatever crime they wish. Many Th*ilander smuggle petrol and rice out from the north to Th*iland. C*stom officer blind? They are not blind, just busy counting money everyday, that's why no eye see. If you see the price different in petrol between Th*iland and S*ngapore, you understand why so many people doing it. The only way to prevent these daily lost to other country to really doesn't deserve it, better government take away the subsidize then every year issue certain amount of money to those who hold Malaysia IC. This way the right way to do it. Many people too emotional when petrol price rise, eventually government will need to reduce the subsidize year by year. Why not just take away the subsidize totally instantly and issue cash to residence. Much more better than now, government don't get the money and high consumption of petrol. This scenario is like robbing from Malaysia and encouraging bribery.

Its taken a long time to develop, i guess thats why many investors dont bother with it..but after this i think the pace will pick up as the surronding land is being developed.

My view on the tipping points:

1) When development of IOI resort city + mall completes (remember the mall is bigger that mid-valley).
2) When work starts on the MRT line that connects to Putrajaya sentral.
3) Puchong development has reached cyberjaya and will very soon reach Putrajaya.
4) Completion of SKVE to Pulau Indah (westport & other big companies are located here). Quite a sizeable workforce that will be linked directly to Putrajaya.
5) When the on-going of many developments in Cyberjaya completes, more retail/commercial choices for residents of Putrajaya.

alot of studio developement in CBJ, if all worker there are single and willing to pay 1800 for rent than it's good... but really risky to pick up studio unit

Transport boost for Cyberjaya

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz280VkgMAu

BETTER LINKS: Cyberview wants light rail transit and MyRapid Transit to serve the intelligent city

NEW developments are set to take place in Cyberjaya, such as a railway network, which may include a brand new light rail transit (LRT) line and the MyRapid Transit (MRT) system.

Currently, the only rail network serving Cyberjaya is the Express Rail Link, connected via Putrajaya to the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang and the KL Sentral transport hub in Kuala Lumpur.

Cyberjaya, which was conceptualised and designed some 15 years ago as the nucleus of Malaysia's Multimedia Super Corridor, needs a better public transport system to serve its growing population. Today, the intelligent city is home to 600 companies, with 35 multinational and nine educational institutions, and about 53,000 people.

"The huge leap is due to the concerted efforts that we at Cyberview, together with our stakeholders, have initiated, which include the creation of an eco-system for companies to thrive in Cyberjaya.

"We've also launched various initiatives that make operating businesses in Cyberjaya easy and appealing," said Cyberview Sdn Bhd managing director Hafidz Hashim.

He said the company is in talks with the local authorities to extend the MRT and LRT lines to Cyberjaya.

"We are soliciting with them for a LRT and MRT line to serve the population growth. We are working closely to see which is the most cost- effective," he said in an interview.

Cyberview, a federal government company, is the land owner and the Cybercity Manager of 2,800ha Cyberjaya in Selangor, deemed to be Malaysia's version of the US' Silicon Valley.

As the information technology (IT) city of the country, its goal is to attract world-class multimedia and IT firms to set up businesses there.

So far, 27 per cent of Cyberjaya has been developed, while over 40 per cent of the landbank is under development and in planning stage.

Hafidz said as the city grows to greater heights, the demand for transport, residential and commercial development and other needs will increase significantly.

He also hopes there will be better connectivity to Cyberjaya by road.

Currently, Cyberjaya is linked via the Maju Expressway, Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong, the South Klang Valley Expressway and the New Klang Valley Expressway.

how about buying a sub-sales apartment at cyberia smarthomes (beside MMU) 1,000 sqft for 280k?already tenanted @ rm1650/month till june 2013..is it worth buying?