Ranhill decided to join the IPO bandwagon.
Perfect candidate for buy & dump on day 1.
IPO: Ranhill Power & Ranhill Utilities, Maybe both under single IPO, maybe split
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SOS: http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles...tenaga/Article/
Ranhill decided to join the IPO bandwagon. Perfect candidate for buy & dump on day 1. |
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Perfect for hit and run.....
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wait, I thought utilities/power is a good area..
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Ranhill is out via MITI now.. Lets discuss about this one...
The price? Is it worth to apply? Listing date? |
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listing date around june/july if not mistaken.
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1st listing after GE13 or Malakoff list first
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The price quite ok RM1 for MITI...they are still considered GLC rite? At least they are listed after the GE uncertainties...If the market is good at that moment, no harm to enter this one
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anyone here apply from MITI oredi??
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Anyone who know the price pls update here, i heard RM 3.... Is it true?
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heard BFM this morning @ 1 ringgau
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QUOTE(memekfalui @ Feb 14 2013, 11:33 AM) If true the price @ 1 ringgit, awesome... I thought par value @ RM 1, if u hv any other info about the price pls update here k.. My remisier still searching info about the exact price.... Without knowing the price, i couldnt make decision how many units im going to apply... |
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Offer price still unknown (MITI will inform later)
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yala...i heard BFM also the same...they didnt say RM1 is the par value...i oso wondered why so cheap...when can we know the exact value? MITI cant help?
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Price = MYR3.00
PAR = MYR1.00 MITI application is now OPEN |
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oh....ranhill....gonna study first but looks like ....n.
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So who's in for MITI? I think the price could be sub 3.00rm
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im in here.
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Feb 19 2013, 09:29 AM) normally how many percent we could get from MITI application? i mean let say we apply 200 lot via MITI, i believe we wont get total 200 lot, so maybe 50% = 100lot? or it depends on certain criteria? sorry this is my first time apply ipo thru MITI. |
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when is the date open to public?
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Mar 18 2013, 10:04 AM) any news ranhill share from miti? in the letter said 14 days after close application will publish result Not yet I think...tht shld be an ideal scenario...looking at Astro, they can delay one especially GE fever nowadays...unstable environment...but u can try calling them...if Miti oso senyap I think the listing shld be not so soon... |
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finally some news...and next in line
KUALA LUMPUR, June 14 — Malaysian energy and water company Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd is expected to launch its initial public offering (IPO) on June 28 that will target raising RM1 billion (US$319.23 million), two sources said. Ranhill Energy joins a queue of IPO aspirants who are taking advantage of ebbing political risk in the Southeast Asian country after May general elections concluded with a win for the long-ruling National Front. Long-haul carrier AirAsia X Bhd is looking to raise US$370 million (RM1.16 billion) in a listing, with pricing to take place on June 24. Malaysia’s state investor Khazanah Nasional Bhd plans to list its theme park business next year in an IPO that could raise up to US$150 million. “They are finalising the cornerstone investors now,” said one of the sources, who declined to be named because the matter was private. A second source said pricing and listing are expected in July. Both sources had direct knowledge of the matter. Ranhill Energy officials were not immediately available to comment. The company, which counts its president and chief executive, Hamdan Mohamad, and regional investment fund Cheval Infrastructure Fund LP among its shareholders, provides engineering services for the onshore and offshore oil and gas, refinery and petrochemical industries. It also owns and operates two 190-megawatt combined-cycle gas-fired power plants in the west Malaysian state of Sabah, and was awarded an exclusive licence by the government to provide ‘source-to-tap’ water supply services in Johor, the second most populous state in the country. China expansion planned Ranhill Energy will use about 70 per cent of the IPO proceeds to redeem Islamic notes and bonds, 19.1 per cent to pay off company acquisitions, 7.1 per cent to expand its water business in China, and the rest for listing expenses, according to a draft prospectus filed on January 13. Maybank Investment Bank is the principal adviser for the IPO. CIMB Investment Bank and Maybank Investment Bank are the joint global coordinators and bookrunners. They are also the underwriters for the deal. Malaysia was the top IPO market for Asia ex-Japan in 2012, boosted by government privatisations and a strong economy, but the IPO pipeline slowed ahead of the polls because of concerns over market volatility. “We are looking at quite a number of listings (this year), probably as many as last year or more, but not the size,” Maybank Investment Bank Bhd’s CEO Zafrul Aziz said. — Reuters http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...28-say-sources/ |
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If not wrong from my old memories.. Ranhill last time take over at 90 cents?
2011 take over.. 2012 want to relist and reprice it to RM1.00 Wah wah wah This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Jun 14 2013, 05:40 PM |
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Yea.. many tipu public punya duit. Astro also like this, Bumi Armada also like this
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Anyone encounter the info tht the indicative price is Rm1.85?
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it exp lor...
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MITI result is out already. Applicant can call on Monday
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QUOTE(azlan88 @ Jun 21 2013, 08:35 PM) MITI result is out already. Applicant can call on Monday tq azlan update for miti.. mari kita tgk siapa yang kena.. http://www.miti.gov.my/cms/content.jsp?id=...11008e-e1df5b64 |
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zzz. no fund already.
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have u call the MITI?
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good ipo ? same kind of re-listing IPO like astro...
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bro, xbp tahu la share ni mcmaner. call utk book allocation share ke? untuk bumiputera biasa bp unit dpt?
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Hi, i'm newbie here. Miti offered 19lots only for me. need to settle payment before 3rd july. thinking of getting loan since can't fork out money from ahb.
reading this thread to get more opinions from sifus. |
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So what is MITI price?
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this ipo im not really sure..
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QUOTE(wanrayz2003 @ Jun 25 2013, 02:26 PM) haha nubis la bro Of all the people here, i believe you are the most relevant to speak about the prospects of the company...since u will be entitled pink form.i maybe got pink form, but never know until this friday how much will get. so tat's why im asking. as for me.. pricing is RM 1.85 at a par value of RM1.. fairly decent to me to apply. Meanwhile waiting for more coverage on this co & the sector. but my gut feel.. there should be money to be made. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jun 25 2013, 05:40 PM) Of all the people here, i believe you are the most relevant to speak about the prospects of the company...since u will be entitled pink form. Should be able to make money I think. 10-15% at least.as for me.. pricing is RM 1.85 at a par value of RM1.. fairly decent to me to apply. Meanwhile waiting for more coverage on this co & the sector. but my gut feel.. there should be money to be made. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jun 25 2013, 05:40 PM) Of all the people here, i believe you are the most relevant to speak about the prospects of the company...since u will be entitled pink form. in my opinion as ranhill worker, i expect rerb can gain much profit. but, ranhill energy and ranhill water seems totally new in this system. so tat's why im lil bit lack of confidence.as for me.. pricing is RM 1.85 at a par value of RM1.. fairly decent to me to apply. Meanwhile waiting for more coverage on this co & the sector. but my gut feel.. there should be money to be made. |
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There's some dark side history for Ranhill group. Being wind up by some company and later delisted from Bursa. |
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actually not much details available on the net.. really have to study the prosp before jump in.
anybody wants to make life easier? |
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i've been heard rumors that syarikat air kelantan will be replace by ranhill water. any confirmation?
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when is the ipo?
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Mutha.. i thought the prospectus supposed to be launch today?
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Had a chat this morning with mbb inv bank officer. She said ranhill energy is getting good response in terms of bookbuilding etc etc. positive with some upside around 2.20.. Hell yeah.. Don't quote me though if it doesnt happen
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Late prospectus launching so the listing maybe after raya, thinking for those who want to use money for Raya...baik kan Ranhill
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listing date: 26 July 2013 .....
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Jul 2 2013, 09:56 AM) Not so sure..that was mentioned in MITI forms but I checked yesterday with Maybank IB, since the launching of prospectus was postponed, so there is a high probability the listing will also be put to another date...unless u check with them today and they say otherwise...This post has been edited by hyzam1212: Jul 2 2013, 01:17 PM |
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Ranhill launch IPO prospectus on 04/07
(吉隆坡2日讯)联熹电力与资源有限公司(Ranhill Energy and Resources Berhad)将在本周四(4日)召开首次公开募股(IPO)招股书推介礼。 联熹电力原订于在6月28日举办推介礼,但最后因故取消。 根据该公司发出的媒体邀请函显示,新推介礼将落在本周四上午,主席丹斯里阿末富吉和总执行长丹斯里韩丹莫哈末均将出席。 消息指,联熹电力料透过IPO上市,将筹集10亿令吉。 联熹电力是联熹有限公司子公司,后者曾是上市公司,惟在2011年被大股东私有化。 据联熹电力1月13日发出的草拟招股书,上市筹集的资金将用作赎回回教债券(占70%)、还清公司收购费用(占19.1%)、扩充中国水务业务(占7.1%)资金以及剩余的充当上市开支。 |
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QUOTE(minshome @ Jul 3 2013, 01:17 PM) Ranhill launch IPO prospectus on 04/07 i presume the above talks about the utilisation of IPO proceeds hor??.(吉隆坡2日讯)联熹电力与资源有限公司(Ranhill Energy and Resources Berhad)将在本周四(4日)召开首次公开募股(IPO)招股书推介礼。 联熹电力原订于在6月28日举办推介礼,但最后因故取消。 根据该公司发出的媒体邀请函显示,新推介礼将落在本周四上午,主席丹斯里阿末富吉和总执行长丹斯里韩丹莫哈末均将出席。 消息指,联熹电力料透过IPO上市,将筹集10亿令吉。 联熹电力是联熹有限公司子公司,后者曾是上市公司,惟在2011年被大股东私有化。 据联熹电力1月13日发出的草拟招股书,上市筹集的资金将用作赎回回教债券(占70%)、还清公司收购费用(占19.1%)、扩充中国水务业务(占7.1%)资金以及剩余的充当上市开支。 |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 3 2013, 02:13 PM) (Kuala Lumpur 2 hearing) Ranhill Power and Resources Limited (Ranhill Energy and Resources Berhad) will on Thursday (the 4th) held an initial public offering (IPO) prospectus promotion ceremony.Ranhill Power was scheduled to hold on June 28 promotion ceremony, but finally canceled for any reason. According to the company issued media invitations shows that the new promotion ceremony will be on Thursday morning, the chairman Tan Sri Ahmad Fu Ji and chief executive officer Tan Sri Mohd Han Dan will attend. Sources, Ranhill Power feed through an IPO, will raise one billion ringgit. Ranhill Power Co., Ltd. is a subsidiary of Ranhill, which was a listed company, but in 2011 was the privatization of major shareholders. According Ranhill Power January 13 issued a draft prospectus, listed funds raised will be used to redeem Islamic bonds (70%), pay off acquisition costs (19.1%), the expansion of Chinese water business (7.1% ) funds, as well as the rest of listing expenses. From google translate |
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QUOTE(drgn @ Jul 3 2013, 02:15 PM) (Kuala Lumpur 2 hearing) Ranhill Power and Resources Limited (Ranhill Energy and Resources Berhad) will on Thursday (the 4th) held an initial public offering (IPO) prospectus promotion ceremony. Ranhill Power was scheduled to hold on June 28 promotion ceremony, but finally canceled for any reason. According to the company issued media invitations shows that the new promotion ceremony will be on Thursday morning, the chairman Tan Sri Ahmad Fu Ji and chief executive officer Tan Sri Mohd Han Dan will attend. Sources, Ranhill Power feed through an IPO, will raise one billion ringgit. Ranhill Power Co., Ltd. is a subsidiary of Ranhill, which was a listed company, but in 2011 was the privatization of major shareholders. According Ranhill Power January 13 issued a draft prospectus, listed funds raised will be used to redeem Islamic bonds (70%), pay off acquisition costs (19.1%), the expansion of Chinese water business (7.1% ) funds, as well as the rest of listing expenses. From google translate tks bro. |
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QUOTE(drgn @ Jul 3 2013, 03:15 PM) (Kuala Lumpur 2 hearing) Ranhill Power and Resources Limited (Ranhill Energy and Resources Berhad) will on Thursday (the 4th) held an initial public offering (IPO) prospectus promotion ceremony. good job !!Ranhill Power was scheduled to hold on June 28 promotion ceremony, but finally canceled for any reason. According to the company issued media invitations shows that the new promotion ceremony will be on Thursday morning, the chairman Tan Sri Ahmad Fu Ji and chief executive officer Tan Sri Mohd Han Dan will attend. Sources, Ranhill Power feed through an IPO, will raise one billion ringgit. Ranhill Power Co., Ltd. is a subsidiary of Ranhill, which was a listed company, but in 2011 was the privatization of major shareholders. According Ranhill Power January 13 issued a draft prospectus, listed funds raised will be used to redeem Islamic bonds (70%), pay off acquisition costs (19.1%), the expansion of Chinese water business (7.1% ) funds, as well as the rest of listing expenses. From google translate |
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This IPO is just used to redeem back it's bonds. not good...
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QUOTE(buffett_Investor @ Jul 3 2013, 07:49 PM) B_I has a point here. I suppose the prospectus hold the key to shed more info and prospect. What important is the level of bookorder... Potential contracts... Etc etc. cornerstone investor, moratorium blah blah blah... |
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Ranhill Energy IPO has been confirmed on Thursday. It's on CIMB eIPO website already.
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Yup prospectus launched today
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sona or ranhill?
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INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING OF UP TO 407,000,000 ORDINARY SHARES OF RM1.00 EACH IN RANHILL ENERGY AND RESOURCES BERHAD (“RANHILL”) (“IPO SHARES”) IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LISTING OF AND QUOTATION FOR THE ENTIRE 961,766,000 ORDINARY SHARES OF RM1.00 EACH IN RANHILL (“SHARES”) ON THE MAIN MARKET OF BURSA MALAYSIA SECURITIES BERHAD COMPRISING AN OFFER FOR SALE OF UP TO 77,000,000 EXISTING SHARES (“OFFER SHARES”) AND A PUBLIC ISSUE OF 330,000,000 NEW SHARES (“ISSUE SHARES”) INVOLVING:
(I) INSTITUTIONAL OFFERING OF UP TO 328,721,680 IPO SHARES TO MALAYSIAN AND FOREIGN INSTITUTIONAL AND SELECTED INVESTORS, INCLUDING BUMIPUTERA INVESTORS APPROVED BY THE MINISTRY OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND INDUSTRY AT THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE TO BE DETERMINED BY WAY OF BOOKBUILDING (“INSTITUTIONAL PRICE”); AND (II) RETAIL OFFERING OF 78,278,320 ISSUE SHARES TO THE ELIGIBLE DIRECTORS AND EMPLOYEES OF RANHILL AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES (“RANHILL GROUP”), PERSONS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF THE RANHILL GROUP AND THE MALAYSIAN PUBLIC, AT THE RETAIL PRICE OF RM1.85 PER SHARE (“RETAIL PRICE”), PAYABLE IN FULL UPON APPLICATION AND SUBJECT TO REFUND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RETAIL PRICE AND THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE (AS DEFINED HEREIN), IN THE EVENT THAT THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE IS LESS THAN THE RETAIL PRICE, SUBJECT TO THE CLAWBACK AND REALLOCATION PROVISIONS AND THE OVER-ALLOTMENT OPTION (AS DEFINED HEREIN). THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE WILL BE EQUAL TO THE LOWER OF (I) THE RETAIL PRICE; OR (II) THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE. |
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Opening: 4 July
Closing: 11 July Ballot: 15 July Issue: 29 July List: 31 July |
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Exactly duit raya stock...selamat berpuasa
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Im not sure if the company is trying to scare us or they are just frankly honest...Check the detail of the risks in the prospectus
Snippets...roughly about 10% of the proceeds is allocated for the expansion of water business in China, others are for resettlement This post has been edited by hyzam1212: Jul 4 2013, 10:20 AM |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:20 AM) Im not sure if the company is trying to scare us or they are just frankly honest...Check the detail of the risks in the prospectus If you wanna talk about risk... you could have died yesterday. Snippets...roughly about 10% of the proceeds is allocated for the expansion of water business in China, others are for resettlement normal lah bro... but on a side note can someone confirm their order book for the oil & gas business only RM 161 mill. this is too little eh. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 4 2013, 10:50 AM) If you wanna talk about risk... you could have died yesterday. Haha i knowla normal but this one is near to death already normal lah bro... but on a side note can someone confirm their order book for the oil & gas business only RM 161 mill. this is too little eh. that is the confirmed order book, no mention watsoever in terms of any expansion...the OnG order book is little maybe due they want to concentrate on the water industry...my guess |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:20 AM) Im not sure if the company is trying to scare us or they are just frankly honest...Check the detail of the risks in the prospectus This was what I mentioned earlier hyzam. less than 10% used for expansion of business and the rest is like paying debts, however Malaysia GLC stocks like this always turn the tables around. Last time nearly kaput then now this.Snippets...roughly about 10% of the proceeds is allocated for the expansion of water business in China, others are for resettlement |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:20 AM) Im not sure if the company is trying to scare us or they are just frankly honest...Check the detail of the risks in the prospectus anyone investing....Looks like they are on the way to list - good potential here and it looks promising.Snippets...roughly about 10% of the proceeds is allocated for the expansion of water business in China, others are for resettlement Taken from the press: In the Energy Sector, more specifically our Oil and Gas business, we are proud to be in partnership with Worley Parsons of Australia. Ranhill Worley Parsons has been appointed as one of only two global hubs for the Worley Parsons Group for mega decks, floating production/storage/offloading facilities as well as floating LNG facilities. We have also recently entered into a MOU with Samsung Engineering to co-develop and pursue mutually beneficial business dealings, namely for the tendering of engineering, procurement, construction and installation projects globally and also for the provision of engineering services by us to the engineering, procurement, construction and installation projects secured by Samsung.” |
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good for beginner???
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Jul 4 2013, 11:32 AM) This was what I mentioned earlier hyzam. less than 10% used for expansion of business and the rest is like paying debts, however Malaysia GLC stocks like this always turn the tables around. Last time nearly kaput then now this. Yeah I totally agree with u...repayment fr proceeds is not good to hearQUOTE(garnaudlopez @ Jul 4 2013, 12:45 PM) anyone investing....Looks like they are on the way to list - good potential here and it looks promising. I think they are looking more on the water industry expansion in China for the IPO...although they are estimating of only 61mil for China expansion, if they are successful in their biddings, they could serve to up to 9 China's municipal councils/authorities water treatment plant...bearing in mind tht each council/authority may have many plants in their jurisdictionTaken from the press: In the Energy Sector, more specifically our Oil and Gas business, we are proud to be in partnership with Worley Parsons of Australia. Ranhill Worley Parsons has been appointed as one of only two global hubs for the Worley Parsons Group for mega decks, floating production/storage/offloading facilities as well as floating LNG facilities. We have also recently entered into a MOU with Samsung Engineering to co-develop and pursue mutually beneficial business dealings, namely for the tendering of engineering, procurement, construction and installation projects globally and also for the provision of engineering services by us to the engineering, procurement, construction and installation projects secured by Samsung.” This post has been edited by hyzam1212: Jul 4 2013, 01:58 PM |
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What's the Fair Value for RANHILL ?
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Jul 4 2013, 03:27 PM
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RM2.20
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Would we have time to apply for ABM FUJIYA first, and if fails move to RANHILL ?
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Got any "personal" analysis on this IPO.
Apply, Skipped or Wait until closing date? |
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Funds Snap Up Ranhill Energy IPO Shares
Institutional investors snapped up the shares being offered by Malaysia’s Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, a rare success story in Asia’s dismal IPO market. “It’s already oversubscribed across the range,” said Patrick Tan, head of regional equity capital markets at CIMB Investment Bank Bhd at a news conference after the launch of Ranhill’s IPO prospectus. The presence of four cornerstone investors — Corston-Smith Asset Management Sdn Bhd, Eastspring Investment Bhd, Hwang Investment Management Bhd and the Pilgrims Fund Board which took 118.27 million shares, or 12.3 percent of the company's enlarged share capital. The four pledged to hold their shares for at least 90 days after the listing, reducing risk of an immediate plunge. This post has been edited by davinz18: Jul 4 2013, 04:35 PM |
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 4 2013, 04:33 PM) Funds Snap Up Ranhill Energy IPO Shares don't worry be happy... Institutional investors snapped up the shares being offered by Malaysia’s Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, a rare success story in Asia’s dismal IPO market. “It’s already oversubscribed across the range,” said Patrick Tan, head of regional equity capital markets at CIMB Investment Bank Bhd at a news conference after the launch of Ranhill’s IPO prospectus. The presence of four cornerstone investors — Corston-Smith Asset Management Sdn Bhd, Eastspring Investment Bhd, Hwang Investment Management Bhd and the Pilgrims Fund Board which took 118.27 million shares, or 12.3 percent of the company's enlarged share capital. The four pledged to hold their shares for at least 90 days after the listing, reducing risk of an immediate plunge. |
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looks good on this IPO..
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i feel dejavu like airasia x.... initially a lot of sceptics.
at the end price discounted by 20 sen.... sceptics became regretful advocates |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:38 PM) Technically you can but its very tight and can be considered no margin for error ie late refund especially maybank, better spread to avoid the risk I'd go with Ranhill first actually...haha think that they have quite a plan in place. besides, you can't go wrong in O&G sector |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 4 2013, 01:54 PM) Yeah I totally agree with u...repayment fr proceeds is not good to hear sounds good. if they can tap into China, that is where the potential is. Hope they get it! really considering buying the stockI think they are looking more on the water industry expansion in China for the IPO...although they are estimating of only 61mil for China expansion, if they are successful in their biddings, they could serve to up to 9 China's municipal councils/authorities water treatment plant...bearing in mind tht each council/authority may have many plants in their jurisdiction |
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KUALA LUMPUR: Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd is seeking to raise up to RM753mil in its upcoming initial public offering slated for July 31, mainly to retire debts and expand its water business in China.
Currently, the water business contributes about 44% to the group’s turnover, followed by oil and gas at around 37%. “We will focus on growing our energy and resources sectors which are our core sectors,” president and chief executive Tan Sri Hamdan Mohamad said at the company’s prospectus launch. Ranhill Energy is offering up to 407 million shares priced at an indicative price of between RM1.70 and RM1.85. A total of 328.7 million shares will be offered to institutional investors. Cornerstone investors Lembaga Tabung Haji, Eastspring Investments Bhd, Hwang Investment Management Bhd and Corston Smith Asset Management Bhd have agreed to buy from Ranhill Energy an aggregate of 118.3 million shares. “The book building just started this morning, response has been good, it’s been oversubscribed.” The book building will close on July 15. Ranhill Energy’s prospectus was supposed to be launched on June 28. However, the company took an additional week to include “additional disclosures” in its prospectus, said Rajiv Vijendran, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd managing director and regional head, equity capital markets. Maybank Investment is the principal adviser for this exercise and joint global coordinator, bookrunner, managing underwriter and underwriter with CIMB Investment Bank Bhd. Hamdan is making a comeback of sorts with the listing of Ranhill Energy. His main listed vehicle previously was Ranhill Bhd, which was listed in 2001 and later taken private in 2011. Its utilities arm, Ranhill Utilities Bhd, was also formerly listed prior to being taken private in 2008. The companies within Ranhill Energy are part of the previously listed Ranhill Bhd. Hamdan said the board intended to recommend a dividend payout of 60% of its net profit for its financial year ending Dec 31, 2014, translating into a yield of about 5%. In its latest concluded financial year to Dec 31, 2012, it made a net profit of RM285.7mil. In China, the company has a water and waste water treatment business, where it has signed memoranda of understanding to expand its capacity from its current 270 million litres per day by an additional 400 million litres per day. In Malaysia, Ranhill Energy has been granted an exclusive licence by the Energy, Green Technology and Water Ministry to provide source-to-tap water supply services to end-customers in Johor. sos thestar Official today's news |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 5 2013, 09:37 AM) KUALA LUMPUR: Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd is seeking to raise up to RM753mil in its upcoming initial public offering slated for July 31, mainly to retire debts and expand its water business in China. Is a dividend policy in place?Currently, the water business contributes about 44% to the group’s turnover, followed by oil and gas at around 37%. “We will focus on growing our energy and resources sectors which are our core sectors,” president and chief executive Tan Sri Hamdan Mohamad said at the company’s prospectus launch. Ranhill Energy is offering up to 407 million shares priced at an indicative price of between RM1.70 and RM1.85. A total of 328.7 million shares will be offered to institutional investors. Cornerstone investors Lembaga Tabung Haji, Eastspring Investments Bhd, Hwang Investment Management Bhd and Corston Smith Asset Management Bhd have agreed to buy from Ranhill Energy an aggregate of 118.3 million shares. “The book building just started this morning, response has been good, it’s been oversubscribed.” The book building will close on July 15. Ranhill Energy’s prospectus was supposed to be launched on June 28. However, the company took an additional week to include “additional disclosures” in its prospectus, said Rajiv Vijendran, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd managing director and regional head, equity capital markets. Maybank Investment is the principal adviser for this exercise and joint global coordinator, bookrunner, managing underwriter and underwriter with CIMB Investment Bank Bhd. Hamdan is making a comeback of sorts with the listing of Ranhill Energy. His main listed vehicle previously was Ranhill Bhd, which was listed in 2001 and later taken private in 2011. Its utilities arm, Ranhill Utilities Bhd, was also formerly listed prior to being taken private in 2008. The companies within Ranhill Energy are part of the previously listed Ranhill Bhd. Hamdan said the board intended to recommend a dividend payout of 60% of its net profit for its financial year ending Dec 31, 2014, translating into a yield of about 5%. In its latest concluded financial year to Dec 31, 2012, it made a net profit of RM285.7mil. In China, the company has a water and waste water treatment business, where it has signed memoranda of understanding to expand its capacity from its current 270 million litres per day by an additional 400 million litres per day. In Malaysia, Ranhill Energy has been granted an exclusive licence by the Energy, Green Technology and Water Ministry to provide source-to-tap water supply services to end-customers in Johor. sos thestar Official today's news |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 5 2013, 11:41 AM) Hamdan said the board intended to recommend a dividend payout of 60% of its net profit for its financial year ending Dec 31, 2014, translating into a yield of about 5%. In its latest concluded financial year to Dec 31, 2012, it made a net profit of RM285.7mil.No firm dividend policy.... |
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 5 2013, 03:10 PM) Hamdan said the board intended to recommend a dividend payout of 60% of its net profit for its financial year ending Dec 31, 2014, translating into a yield of about 5%. In its latest concluded financial year to Dec 31, 2012, it made a net profit of RM285.7mil. Meaning for FY13, no dividend will be declared, right ?No firm dividend policy.... |
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hi guys, noon in share but interested to know more / play with it
i had applied and gotten my cds acc from mbb and when i clicked at the eshare / ipo application, i saw there are 2 lists here ... ranhill and sona pet. hmm was it there because i accidentally clicked on it ? or it is added automatically by MBB to it's user ? Randill's ipo starts at rm 1.85 so if i am about to buy and keep it, end of next year, they will declare dividen to their ipo's holder ? Thanks for the advise |
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My remisier advised me not to apply for this as the last time a lot of people burned their hands when Ranhill delisted (ran off with their money at a low price).
And now if I look at their comments, most of it goes to debt repayment. This is just my opinion. No pun intended |
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Jul 5 2013, 11:09 PM) My remisier advised me not to apply for this as the last time a lot of people burned their hands when Ranhill delisted (ran off with their money at a low price). I may apply with very small amount. And now if I look at their comments, most of it goes to debt repayment. This is just my opinion. No pun intended |
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ranhill and sona...
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hooray, lesser competitors, better my chance getting the slots. i can HIT and RUN with this for fast gain.
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I will split my funds on both !
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Subscription rate is so good. Dont expect price reduction... Those pessimist pls stay away.
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not sure the prospect and performance of this stock later ....
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If u have some funds and talk about not putting eggs in the same basket, what's your most likely preferred allocation for ranhill vs sona? 60:40? Or the other way around? Or play safe as in 50-50? It may be unrelated stocks/sector but any kind advice?
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Hmmm, among the three IPOs that have come up in the news recently, my bid for 1000 AirAsia X shares was successful and just made an attempt on Sona Petroleum for the same amount... My broker is still studying the Ranhill Power prospectus and will only be able to provide his advise to clients tomorrow...
What do you guys think? Is it good to go for Ranhill? This post has been edited by THTgadgets.com: Jul 8 2013, 04:50 PM |
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Hmmm, reading that article posted by davinz18 made me decide to jump into the water and bid for 1000 shares of Ranhill Power... This is because my family broker, Hwang Investment Management, is a cornerstone investor (generating good returns on most of the investments we were recommended to make) and if HwangIM are willing to place a chunk of $$$ into Ranhill's IPO, they must surely see something good about this company that we may not have noticed...
When is the IPO debuting, btw (may have missed out this news earlier)? This post has been edited by THTgadgets.com: Jul 8 2013, 05:10 PM |
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QUOTE(THTgadgets.com @ Jul 8 2013, 04:48 PM) Hmmm, among the three IPOs that have come up in the news recently, my bid for 1000 AirAsia X shares was successful and just made an attempt on Sona Petroleum for the same amount... My broker is still studying the Ranhill Power prospectus and will only be able to provide his advise to clients tomorrow... mr.gadget - there is no point to study the IPO.What do you guys think? Is it good to go for Ranhill? its a game, buy and dump. why need to study? for IPO, its pointless to buy 1000 shares, the transaction fees will eat into your profit. 1000 x 1.85 =1850+2(?) 1852 assume it hit 1.95, sell pay RM12 min plus other charges, say in total RM16. Sell 1950-16, profit RM82. Quick and profit but it could be better. I understood not everyone have a lot of cash to enter the IPO. The point is INVESTORS need to reap the profit. |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 8 2013, 11:10 PM) mr.gadget - there is no point to study the IPO. Very true bro.... But be positive and give him moral support laa, now he started with 1000 shares maybe next time will be 100K.. Who knows.its a game, buy and dump. why need to study? for IPO, its pointless to buy 1000 shares, the transaction fees will eat into your profit. 1000 x 1.85 =1850+2(?) 1852 assume it hit 1.95, sell pay RM12 min plus other charges, say in total RM16. Sell 1950-16, profit R2. Quick and profit but it could be better. I understood not everyone have a lot of cash to enter the IPO. The point is INVESTORS need to reap the profit. |
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hmmm good choice to dump? or westport?
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jul 9 2013, 09:05 AM) All blue chip stock different from penny stock.Like buy expensive car you feel the quality of the car else buy kancil car. What you pay for is what you can expected in return. This post has been edited by felixmask: Jul 9 2013, 09:27 AM |
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Hong Leong give a fair value of RM2.20 for Ranhill.
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jul 9 2013, 09:05 AM) read somewhere you often applied 1000 shares only.. in that case better keep your opinion on the pricing to yourself lah......mind telling/justifying why you said expensive?...... This post has been edited by nasT: Jul 9 2013, 11:26 AM |
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RM2.20? ...... 35 sen profit ..... can buy raya baju ..... keh keh...
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if buy 1000 shares at this price might not look really worth... just opinion.
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Jul 9 2013, 11:55 AM
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maybe he is mentioning 1000 lots
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At least the par value is RM 1, didn't bother earlier with AAX because it was only 15 cents...
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I just applied 80000 unit X RM1.85 = RM148,000 for Ranhill IPO.
this one just test water. Will enter SONA tomorrow |
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I put more in SONA, lol
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For interested punters .....
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 9 2013, 11:22 AM) read somewhere you often applied 1000 shares only.. in that case better keep your opinion on the pricing to yourself lah...... u mean mr.gadget, but yeah i do buy 1000 units of some shares, this ones i have to think properly first whether to buy more. mind telling/justifying why you said expensive?...... |
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Applied. Very very small quantity to test water!
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Jul 10 2013, 08:39 PM
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RANHILL ENERGY AND RESOURCES BERHAD
Opening of application 04/07/2013 Closing of application 11/07/2013 Balloting of applications 15/07/2013 Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 29/07/2013 Tentative listing date 31/07/2013 |
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Jul 11 2013, 08:19 AM
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applied for 5k units.
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5500 units taruk
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Last call. Today last day to apply.
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Submitted some ikan bilis amount... hopefully can strike this (since failed under ABM FUJIYA)
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sailang all out,,, 1500
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ABM failed, see how this goes.
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Retail application Officially closed.
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ABM still pending, not enough bullets to attack Ranhill. Manage to apply 6k units only !
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IM in. just a little bit only.
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I applied 1000 unit only. I put my bullet for Sona.
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Jul 12 2013, 11:27 PM
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Oredi applied 36000 shares.. Hopefuly kena more than 20000 shares
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Jul 15 2013, 09:07 AM
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So quiet today, u know what?! today is the BALLOT day. GOOD LUCK to all! Yeehaa
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Tomorrow will get some results...
This evening some news from MIH website Press Release : http://www.mih.com.my/home.php?page=pr543 Public Allocation : http://www.mih.com.my/home.php?page=bs543p Bumiputera Allocation : http://www.mih.com.my/home.php?page=bs543b |
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Result available?
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Table is out. Can see as per ronnie's message above
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Cimb will know tomorrow morning,
MBB will know tomorrow evening/night So low percentage of success Must be very high Over-Subscribe rate This post has been edited by ronnie: Jul 15 2013, 06:13 PM |
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Jul 15 2013, 06:15 PM
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waw, the changes of getting it is almost like winning lottery.
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Jul 15 2013, 06:18 PM
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very hard to get..
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Save the bullets for other IPOs....
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Jul 15 2013, 06:28 PM
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% for public is so low....
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If unsuccessful, can try others IPO. This year got lot "money collection exercise" @ IPO coming out
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7.6%.
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hope can get.
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8.98%.... I hv confidence!!!
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Ranhill Energy and Resources Prices IPO at MYR1.85/Share, Top-End of Range
Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, a Malaysian oil and gas service provider, has priced its initial public offering at 1.85 ringgit ($0.58) a share, raising $236.8 million, a person familiar with the matter said Monday. This is Malaysia's second major IPO this year, which comes at a time when the Southeast Asian country continues to draw IPO aspirants even as other IPO markets falter. In June alone, four companies in Hong Kong either dropped IPO plans or cut their IPO sizes. Bankers say the presence of four cornerstone investors, who pledged to hold their shares for at least 90 days after the listing, reduced the risk of an immediate plunge upon listing and has helped shore up confidence in the Ranhill IPO. Ranhill marketed up to 407 million shares--around 328.7 million shares for institutional investors and 78.3 million for retail investors-at 1.70 ringgit to 1.85 ringgit a share. Retail investors will pay the same price as institutional investors. |
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anybody checked the results?
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whats the subscription rate?
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as usual maybank need to check it after 8pm tonite..
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Jul 16 2013, 10:26 AM
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CIMB also not yet out.
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stay positive...
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CODE http://www.mih.com.my/results1.php?issue=543&type=test.Investor_ID&investor=yymmdd-cc-abcd&Submit=Search MyKad = yymmdd-cc-abcd This post has been edited by ronnie: Jul 16 2013, 02:15 PM |
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Result out. Share not alloted!
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can try again later..
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Still showing PENDING.
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After 8pm should know the results
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my application not successful. again. the good one never gets. the bad one like airasia x get. sigh...
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airasia x shares all for retail, that why u can easily get the ipo ( 0 conerstone ipo )
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Maybank-Not Successful...moving along...
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got 3 lots.. 5.55k myr.. only.. sigh
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Unsuccessful from maybank.
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unsuccessful from maybank for both account...sigh...
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X kena!!!
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Maybank Investment Bank Berhad, on behalf of Ranhill, wishes to announce that the Institutional Price and the Final Retail Price have been fixed as set out below:
INSTITUTIONAL PRICE - RM1.85 PER SHARE FINAL RETAIL PRICE - RM1.85 PER SHARE |
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In accordance with Section 9(1) of the Capital Markets and Services (Price Stabilization Mechanism) Regulations 2008, Maybank Investment Bank Berhad (“Maybank IB”), being the stabilizing manager (“Stabilizing Manager”) in respect of the Initial Public Offering, hereby announces that:
(a) the Shares may be subject to stabilizing action; (b) up to 38,460,000 Shares are the subject of an over-allotment option granted to the Stabilizing Manager, solely for purposes of covering over-allotments of the Shares in the Initial Public Offering; © notwithstanding item (b) above, the Stabilizing Manager requires and therefore has agreed to buy up to 36,500,000 Shares only to undertake stabilizing action; and (d) the final date on which the Stabilizing Manager may stabilize the price of the Shares shall be the earlier of (i) 30 days from the commencement of trading of the Shares on the Main Market of Bursa Securities; or (ii) the date when the Stabilizing Manager has bought on the Main Market of Bursa Securities, an aggregate of 36,500,000 Shares representing approximately 8.97% of the total number of Shares offered under the Initial Public Offering. |
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has the official subscription rate announced yet?
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unsuccessful.. refunded. sigh
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Another full refund from Maybank... Let's hope 3rd time lucky with SONA in the next few days
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 16 2013, 02:14 PM) CODE http://www.mih.com.my/results1.php?issue=543&type=test.Investor_ID&investor=yymmdd-cc-abcd&Submit=Search MyKad = yymmdd-cc-abcd Share Query Results: Found: 0 Issue No Issue Name Investor ID Share Allocated Application Not Successful |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 16 2013, 10:10 PM) using this technique --- its confirmed failed hug hug zaman. it's ok. you are not the only one. There is me and others who fail alsoShare Query Results: Found: 0 Issue No Issue Name Investor ID Share Allocated Application Not Successful |
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Not yet get the refund from CIMB!
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so what's the next ipo and when. want to forget this stock ranhil asap
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sona ipo result tomorrow.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jul 16 2013, 10:12 PM) that's a serious breach of privacy. must maintain silence in next applicatoinQUOTE(gsw8895 @ Jul 16 2013, 10:28 PM) PENDING same like me, but go to MIH to check for faster result. Use the link 2 pages back. |
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no..tht is invalid link..ranhil power not yet in mih status
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what is reserve ? 50-50 getting ?
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how many times oversubscribed??
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Failed to get too... wait for SONA!!!!!
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i kena 60%~~~~~yeah~~~
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Still waiting. Using PBB. Status not updated - Submitted for balloting. why so long?
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Overall Over-Subscription : 12.98 times
Bumiputera Over-subscription : 6.06 times Non-Bumiputera Over-subscription : 19.9 times Press Release for RANHILL ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by ronnie: Jul 17 2013, 11:00 AM |
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meaning almost everyone will get what they applied for
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Lucky me, I apply 1000 shares only and strike
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 17 2013, 10:18 AM) Overall Over-Subscription : 12.98% i) I think u got some typos. "%" should be not be there.Bumiputera Over-subscription : 6.06% Non-Bumiputera Over-subscription : 19.9% ii) The numbers don't match. Can anyone please clarify? Overall Over-Subscription: 268,971,600 (Overall all Malaysian public Issue Shares received) / 19,235,320 (Issue Shares offered) = 13.98 Bumiputera Over-subscription: 67,923,700 (all Bumi category Issue Shares received) / 9,617,660 (Issue Shares offered) = 7.06 Non-Bumiputera Over-subscription: 201,047,900 (all Non-Bumi category Issue Shares received) / 9,617,660 (Issue Shares offered) = 20.90 |
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weeeeeeee !!!
so lucky !!! full allocation ! despite having less than 10% chance to kena hehe lets rock n roll ~ |
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anybody applied thru PBB?
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Money refunded. Chapter closed for Ranhil. Those got, congrat!
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Finally results out. Get 73%.
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i manage to get 50000 unit of ranhill!!!!
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Depending on the price. Nowadays the Banks and promoters so clever to hike up the price got nothing for the public to makan.
Astro and Airasia X are two examples I can think of. |
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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jul 17 2013, 02:55 PM) Depending on the price. Nowadays the Banks and promoters so clever to hike up the price got nothing for the public to makan. Wrong, AAX : low par value, a lot of shares in the market + overpriced liao, of course we can't get much.Astro and Airasia X are two examples I can think of. |
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Ranhill IPO oversubscribed 12.98 times
In a statement today, Malaysian Issuing House Sdn Bhd (MIH) said 21,840 applications for 268.97 million shares were received from the public. A total of 9.62 million shares was set aside for allotment under Bumiputera category representing 50 per cent of total issue shares offered to the public while the remaining were set aside for non-Bumiputera investors. "The Bumiputera category received 6,765 applications for 67.92 million shares which represent 6.06 times oversubscription rate while non-bumiputera category received 15,075 applications for 201.05 million shares, an oversubscription by 19.90 times," MIH said. MIH said as the final retail price of RM1.85 per share equalled the retail price of RM1.85 per share set in the prospectus dated July 4,2013, no refund will be made to the successful applicants. In addition, 59.043 million shares were reserved for directors and employees of Ranhill and its subsidiaries and also persons who have contributed to the success of the company (restricted offer), it said. It said a total of 14.23 million that were not subscribed under restricted offer has been made available for subscription under public retail offering.-- Bernama |
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 17 2013, 06:41 PM) In addition, 59.043 million shares were reserved for directors and employees of Ranhill and its subsidiaries and also persons who have contributed to the success of the company (restricted offer), it said. 14.23 million shares or 24% of shares offered not taken up by the management/employees. Usually for restricted offer, money will not be a problem as banks are eager to offer financing.It said a total of 14.23 million that were not subscribed under restricted offer has been made available for subscription under public retail offering.-- Bernama What do they know that we don't know? This post has been edited by gark: Jul 17 2013, 06:49 PM |
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Also on the high side.
QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 17 2013, 06:41 PM) Ranhill IPO oversubscribed 12.98 times In a statement today, Malaysian Issuing House Sdn Bhd (MIH) said 21,840 applications for 268.97 million shares were received from the public. A total of 9.62 million shares was set aside for allotment under Bumiputera category representing 50 per cent of total issue shares offered to the public while the remaining were set aside for non-Bumiputera investors. "The Bumiputera category received 6,765 applications for 67.92 million shares which represent 6.06 times oversubscription rate while non-bumiputera category received 15,075 applications for 201.05 million shares, an oversubscription by 19.90 times," MIH said. MIH said as the final retail price of RM1.85 per share equalled the retail price of RM1.85 per share set in the prospectus dated July 4,2013, no refund will be made to the successful applicants. In addition, 59.043 million shares were reserved for directors and employees of Ranhill and its subsidiaries and also persons who have contributed to the success of the company (restricted offer), it said. It said a total of 14.23 million that were not subscribed under restricted offer has been made available for subscription under public retail offering.-- Bernama |
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based on given data, this ranhill ipo far better than air sia X. just my newbie opinion. anyway, all the best
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 17 2013, 06:48 PM) 14.23 million shares or 24% of shares offered not taken up by the management/employees. Usually for restricted offer, money will not be a problem as banks are eager to offer financing. because of the moratorium ... they cant sell ...... can sell only after 1 year .....What do they know that we don't know? |
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QUOTE(kamrulbj6107 @ Jul 17 2013, 07:04 PM) Yes.. means they not willing to keep for 1 year.....Usually for IPO, hardly got leftover for restricted stock. Again, something they know, we don't? Ranhill Power was taken private in 2011 for 530 Million, now re-list for RM 1 Billion. Woo hoo big pay day for someone... This post has been edited by gark: Jul 17 2013, 07:50 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 17 2013, 07:49 PM) Yes.. means they not willing to keep for 1 year..... my colleague's friend got a pink form. he offer my colleague some units.Usually for IPO, hardly got leftover for restricted stock. Again, something they know, we don't? Ranhill Power was taken private in 2011 for 530 Million, now re-list for RM 1 Billion. Woo hoo big pay day for someone... is it true that pink form application has moratorium, can only sell after 1 year? |
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jul 17 2013, 08:06 PM) my colleague's friend got a pink form. he offer my colleague some units. not sure but i heard from someone that works in ranhill that the shares for pink form offered at RM1, maybe thats why.is it true that pink form application has moratorium, can only sell after 1 year? |
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QUOTE(goldironman @ Jul 17 2013, 11:16 AM) i) I think u got some typos. "%" should be not be there. simple la kawan.ii) The numbers don't match. Can anyone please clarify? Overall Over-Subscription: 268,971,600 (Overall all Malaysian public Issue Shares received) / 19,235,320 (Issue Shares offered) = 13.98 Bumiputera Over-subscription: 67,923,700 (all Bumi category Issue Shares received) / 9,617,660 (Issue Shares offered) = 7.06 Non-Bumiputera Over-subscription: 201,047,900 (all Non-Bumi category Issue Shares received) / 9,617,660 (Issue Shares offered) = 20.90 its mathematics. U see total shares available = 19,235,320 and total shares applied was 268,971,600 so Total - Must allocate = 268,971,600-19,235,320 = 249,736,280 so 249,736,280/19,235,320 = 12.98% |
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congrats to those who had successfully secured
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:36 PM) simple la kawan. LOL I have completely forgotten to deduct the "Must allocate." its mathematics. U see total shares available = 19,235,320 and total shares applied was 268,971,600 so Total - Must allocate = 268,971,600-19,235,320 = 249,736,280 so 249,736,280/19,235,320 = 12.98% |
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jul 19 2013, 12:42 AM) QUOTE (II) RETAIL OFFERING OF 78,278,320 ISSUE SHARES TO THE ELIGIBLE DIRECTORS AND EMPLOYEES OF RANHILL AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES (“RANHILL GROUP”), PERSONS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF THE RANHILL GROUP AND THE MALAYSIAN PUBLIC, AT THE RETAIL PRICE OF RM1.85 PER SHARE (“RETAIL PRICE”), PAYABLE IN FULL UPON APPLICATION AND SUBJECT TO REFUND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RETAIL PRICE AND THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE (AS DEFINED HEREIN), IN THE EVENT THAT THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE IS LESS THAN THE RETAIL PRICE, maybe its rm1.85 for pink form? i guess only ranhill employees and directors will know |
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famous goreng stock in the past
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QUOTE(minshome @ Jul 24 2013, 07:54 AM) QUOTE Opening of application 04/07/2013 i wonder if any hanky panky in the background? license suspended at 17 july, now today 24 july only tell.....Closing of application 11/07/2013 Balloting of applications 15/07/2013 Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 29/07/2013 Tentative listing date 31/07/2013 |
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My only advice. Avoid the counter by any means. There is also a possibility that the listing be deferred to a later date. I don't thins SC will allow them to go ahead. SC has to protest the interest of shareholders too (especially the minors like us)
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Will this "bad news" delay IPO listing or worse yet, lousy opening day
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 24 2013, 08:52 AM) Don't think it would delay the IPO. 17th July might be the official date petronas ban ranhill, but i bet the management would have know it well before that. The wind is there, thats why the employe portion was not taken up. |
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RAN down the HILL on listing day. Even their staffs also refused to participate.
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QUOTE(bobmali @ Jul 24 2013, 08:51 AM) My only advice. Avoid the counter by any means. There is also a possibility that the listing be deferred to a later date. I don't thins SC will allow them to go ahead. SC has to protest the interest of shareholders too (especially the minors like us) based on my experience of trading stocks for over 6 years, SC dont really care bout us peanuts investorsQUOTE(ronnie @ Jul 24 2013, 08:52 AM) i wonder if its open at a big premium, and we got thechance to get it at lower price than most people plus the rights to brag.QUOTE(darx84 @ Jul 24 2013, 08:57 AM) Don't think it would delay the IPO. 17th July might be the official date petronas ban ranhill, but i bet the management would have know it well before that. The wind is there, thats why the employe portion was not taken up. QUOTE(zitis @ Jul 24 2013, 08:59 AM) my friend is a ranhill staff got pink form, he subscribe 10k , and also invite me, luckily i declined.i think only top management knows bout this, i dont think normal staffs will know bout this beforehand. Old news for ironic read purpose http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...as-gas-job.html This post has been edited by john123x: Jul 24 2013, 09:07 AM |
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IPO cancel if not mistaken. someone pls confirm it.
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jul 24 2013, 09:02 AM) based on my experience of trading stocks for over 6 years, SC dont really care bout us peanuts investors Lucky u. They had bad record before when they plan to delisting their stock.i wonder if its open at a big premium, and we got thechance to get it at lower price than most people plus the rights to brag. my friend is a ranhill staff got pink form, he subscribe 10k , and also invite me, luckily i declined. i think only top management knows bout this, i dont think normal staffs will know bout this beforehand. Old news for ironic read purpose http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...as-gas-job.html This is another kind of daylight robbery plan. |
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The listing – which saw the emergence of big-name cornerstone investors such as Lembaga Tabung Haji, Eastspring Investments Bhd, Hwang Investment Management Bhd and Corston Smith Asset Management Bhd – drew attention because of its lucrative water concession in Johor, bankers said.
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Like the news said, the major portion of the IPO is for their water business...OnG only comes 2nd...but somehow or rather this will hamper the performance...wat to do, shares allotted...
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power division: the largest independent power producer (IPP) in Sabah, and water & wastewater division: the crown jewel 80 per cent stake in Syarikat Air Johor Holdings (SAJH).
“Concession assets are typically favoured as it generates stable cash flow,” the analyst highlighted. He further explained, “In Sabah, the group’s two power plants have Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) with Sabah Electricity Sdn Bhd to sell electricity over a period of 21 years (ending in 2029). got big cornerstone inside.. tabung haji. etc This post has been edited by fiqir: Jul 24 2013, 09:47 AM |
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Not sure is a good thing or bad thing following this counter
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It would be very strange if the management do not know about the suspension at all. I don't think a big corporation like petronas would simply suspend a license withhout giving enough warning in advance, whether orally or in writing. Something is not right.
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QUOTE(jerry88 @ Jul 24 2013, 10:50 AM) It would be very strange if the management do not know about the suspension at all. I don't think a big corporation like petronas would simply suspend a license withhout giving enough warning in advance, whether orally or in writing. Something is not right. Don't think SC will suspend this IPO. The purposed of the IPO is to catch fish, not to let it go. Now that they have the fishes in the net, don't think the fish can run without loosing a scale or two. Cancellation would be ideal for all. |
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QUOTE(darx84 @ Jul 24 2013, 11:42 AM) Don't think SC will suspend this IPO. The purposed of the IPO is to catch fish, not to let it go. Now that they have the fishes in the net, don't think the fish can run without loosing a scale or two. Can we quote Criminal breach of trust and sue them? Those cornerstone investors will just sit quietly? I am sure they will jump. |
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The LNG Reclassification plant supposed to be completed August last year if I am not mistaken. The plant is to cater for the LNG which will be imported from other countries via tanker. The liquid natural gas will then gasified into gas form and supplied via Petronas' PGU line to consumer. This additional gas is to cater for the huge demand of natural gas in Malaysia which is now the cheapest, cleanest and most efficient fuel compared to others. Because of the delay, Petronas Gas has lost million of dollars in term of income.
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luckily im din kena the ipo... sometimes not kena oso not a bad thing!!!
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saw this news in paper today. Petronas is blacklisting ranhill. quite bad
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it might be not bad..petronas is black list the 51% subsidiary, not the whole group. revenue line impact might not that significant. Further, Ranhill can form another company to handle the petronas deal later...
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QUOTE(gsw8895 @ Jul 24 2013, 04:12 PM) it might be not bad..petronas is black list the 51% subsidiary, not the whole group. revenue line impact might not that significant. Further, Ranhill can form another company to handle the petronas deal later... all Ranhill's Petronas contract must go through Perunding Ranhill Worley (PRW) as PRW holds the license. quote from the star, "Rworley and/or any persons connected to it (PRW) would no longer qualify or be allowed to participae in any of Petronas' tender" so for the O&G division, can hope to get contracts from oversea. Not sure if they can still bid contracts by other PSC locally like exxon, sapurakencana, shell etc. This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Jul 24 2013, 04:24 PM |
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it wont effect much for ranhill as ranhill control 80% johor water and sabah IPP electricity until year 2029 , but this still bad thing bad timing for ranhill
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 24 2013, 04:32 PM) it wont effect much for ranhill as ranhill control 80% johor water and sabah IPP electricity until year 2029 , but this still bad thing bad timing for ranhill the question is not affected how great the percentage is ..... but how are they handle the news and delay it only after the allotment date ..... maybe something/someone is going to press the news to coming out ...... that's the right we as minor investors are worried now or in the future ....... as we know only small percentage of ppl only benefit from this exercise so we're bbq again? we must think from the minority shareholders perspective not the sharks !!! note: i do not have vested interest |
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Jul 24 2013, 04:37 PM) the question is not affected how great the percentage is ..... but how are they handle the news and delay it only after the allotment date ..... maybe something/someone is going to press the news to coming out ...... that's the right we as minor investors are worried now or in the future ....... as we know only small percentage of ppl only benefit from this exercise so we're bbq again? we must think from the minority shareholders perspective not the sharks !!! agreed. should give option refund. since dont know how much percentage of damage. note: i do not have vested interest |
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Jul 24 2013, 04:49 PM
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If Petronas blacklisted Ranhill and its subsidiary, its oil and gas business is doomed because the oil and gas division already had bad image. How to get new business from other company? More bad news is Ipo already priced in oil and gas business.
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Jul 24 2013, 04:58 PM
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Since no one has supported CBT, to save hassles, can we complain to minority watchdog? Has anybody tried? I will look at their website now and try
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QUOTE(H86 @ Jul 24 2013, 04:49 PM) If Petronas blacklisted Ranhill and its subsidiary, its oil and gas business is doomed because the oil and gas division already had bad image. How to get new business from other company? More bad news is Ipo already priced in oil and gas business. You got a point there. How bad would this news affect the IPO performance, we shall see next week |
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I will formally complain to SC after taking with Minority Watchdog.
Seriously, if you are impacted by this, you can go to police too. |
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I think they had hide this info to all the investor. FYI, I heard this new two months ago from my relative who work in OnG firm. Indirectly cause Ranhill have to retrench hundred of workers.
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Jul 24 2013, 05:14 PM
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what you think will happen on the stock performance on the listing day
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Jul 24 2013, 05:19 PM
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if still listing with current ipo price, sure going down. zzz
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jul 24 2013, 07:58 AM) i wonder if any hanky panky in the background? license suspended at 17 july, now today 24 july only tell..... IMHO, the reporting accountant to me should have captured and disclose all details. And this revelation shows how sloppy and incomplete they have performed their duties.Even if it is a go i expect the current IPO holders will be given a right to choose whether to proceed investing or not. SIMPLY BECAUSE A PIECE OF INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY INFORMED. Surely there must be winds blowing rite. From my experience....this case is akin to FOCUS POINT where somebody blew off the top regarding them not having properly licenced optometrist. the news nonetheless proven to be a show stopper... didn't open at discount but didn't even fly either. I have vested interest here.... |
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Done with the complain with SC and MSWG. People should do the same, it's your rights. Simple email will do, not worth it?
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 24 2013, 05:20 PM) Think about it. Before Petronas drops a vendor, they would have to do a investigation if the problems are real or bad enough, they will have to have discussion with Ranhill's management. All options would have to be explored and a conclusion would have been reach much earlier before the announcement date, which is usually due to tying up some lose ends before going public.Ranhill and the team fully knew about this, and they chose to kept their silence on it. I haven't read their prospectus, but hopefully they haven't listed this deal with PEtronas down as one of the key reason investors should buy as I think that would be a lie. |
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Jul 24 2013, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 24 2013, 05:38 PM) Think about it. Before Petronas drops a vendor, they would have to do a investigation if the problems are real or bad enough, they will have to have discussion with Ranhill's management. All options would have to be explored and a conclusion would have been reach much earlier before the announcement date, which is usually due to tying up some lose ends before going public. no bro... i have read the prospectus.. but nothing such was mentioned... check out the section under risk.Ranhill and the team fully knew about this, and they chose to kept their silence on it. I haven't read their prospectus, but hopefully they haven't listed this deal with PEtronas down as one of the key reason investors should buy as I think that would be a lie. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 24 2013, 05:41 PM) no bro... i have read the prospectus.. but nothing such was mentioned... check out the section under risk. Then at least they can claim they never intentionally misled the investors, can claim at the time of the launching, they were still in discussion with Petronas |
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QUOTE The company is taking steps to appeal to Petronas. Although in theory such licenses can be reinstated, it rarely happens. #theedge There is a slim hope,its not done and dusted yet...dont be shock if they can postponed it somehow seeing Tabung Haji there |
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 24 2013, 05:43 PM) Then at least they can claim they never intentionally misled the investors, can claim at the time of the launching, they were still in discussion with Petronas ya.. but there must prior indication and deliberation. If true then this is witholding information. Now they have to rebut in by press announcement that the suspension is not 'material' in effect and nature.Either way they have to 'surface'. |
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i believe currently pulling and pushing strings in effect...
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DEFERMENT OF LISTING
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 24 2013, 06:19 PM) Yupsee the Bursa Statement through this link http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1359305 |
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QUOTE(zitis @ Jul 24 2013, 08:59 AM) this is a very nice quote+1 QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 24 2013, 06:19 PM) ur too sensitive about this. maybe ur stake is quite high......LESSON 1: IPO is not an easy get rich scheme This post has been edited by john123x: Jul 24 2013, 06:58 PM |
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if using loan to buy this ranhill. pity them.
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Ranhill Energy delays IPO
Published: 2013/07/24 Malaysian oil and gas service firm Ranhill Energy will delay its planned July 31 IPO after state oil firm Petronas suspended the licence of an affiliate company earlier this month, Ranhill said on Thursday. Ranhill Energy said in a statement Petronas scrapped a licence belonging to affiliate Perunding Ranhill Worley (PRW) from July 17 for an indefinite period. Ranhill said it is appealing the decision. The licence enables PRW to bid for Malaysian projects awarded by Petronas, which has pledged to spend RM300 billion in capital expenditures between 2011 and 2015. PRW usually outsources Petronas jobs to Ranhill Energy’s 51 per cent owned unit, Ranhill Worley Parsons Sdn Bhd, which contributes a significant portion of its Malaysian revenues. Australia’s WorleyParsons Ltd owns 49 per cent of Ranhill Worley Parsons. The suspension came after Petronas reviewed topside construction work done by Ranhill WorleyParsons for the LNG regasification plant in central Melaka state. In 2011, PRW and Muhibbah Engineering won a RM1.07 billion engineering, procurement, construction, installation and commission contract for an LNG regasification project in Melaka. Ranhill had priced its share sale at the top of expectations on July 15 as investors turned optimistic about the booming oil and gas service sector in Southeast Asia. Cornerstone investors for the IPO include Corston-Smith Asset Management Sdn Bhd and Eastspring Investment Bhd.-- Reuters |
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QUOTE(minshome @ Jul 24 2013, 07:14 PM) Ranhill Energy delays IPO Petronas seeks revenge after Ranhill shitty delayed LNG jobPublished: 2013/07/24 Malaysian oil and gas service firm Ranhill Energy will delay its planned July 31 IPO after state oil firm Petronas suspended the licence of an affiliate company earlier this month, Ranhill said on Thursday. Ranhill Energy said in a statement Petronas scrapped a licence belonging to affiliate Perunding Ranhill Worley (PRW) from July 17 for an indefinite period. Ranhill said it is appealing the decision. The licence enables PRW to bid for Malaysian projects awarded by Petronas, which has pledged to spend RM300 billion in capital expenditures between 2011 and 2015. PRW usually outsources Petronas jobs to Ranhill Energy’s 51 per cent owned unit, Ranhill Worley Parsons Sdn Bhd, which contributes a significant portion of its Malaysian revenues. Australia’s WorleyParsons Ltd owns 49 per cent of Ranhill Worley Parsons. The suspension came after Petronas reviewed topside construction work done by Ranhill WorleyParsons for the LNG regasification plant in central Melaka state. In 2011, PRW and Muhibbah Engineering won a RM1.07 billion engineering, procurement, construction, installation and commission contract for an LNG regasification project in Melaka. Ranhill had priced its share sale at the top of expectations on July 15 as investors turned optimistic about the booming oil and gas service sector in Southeast Asia. Cornerstone investors for the IPO include Corston-Smith Asset Management Sdn Bhd and Eastspring Investment Bhd.-- Reuters |
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Ranhill assured investors that all the monies were being held held by the placement agents, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd and CIMB Investment Bank Bhd, as well as Malaysian Issuing House Sdn. Bhd. "In any event, the allotment of the IPO shares to successful applicants as well as the listing of Ranhill has been deferred to a later date. Further details will be announced and necessary disclosures will be made in due course," it said. > until later date but unknown. but money stuck inside if like that. |
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 24 2013, 08:22 PM) Ranhill assured investors that all the monies were being held held by the placement agents, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd and CIMB Investment Bank Bhd, as well as Malaysian Issuing House Sdn. Bhd. easy only to settle the problem. Reduce the ipo price by half, refund the other half and proceed with listing ..... he he he"In any event, the allotment of the IPO shares to successful applicants as well as the listing of Ranhill has been deferred to a later date. Further details will be announced and necessary disclosures will be made in due course," it said. > until later date but unknown. but money stuck inside if like that. |
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Sorry to hear the bad news! It is good to delay as if Ranhill proceed with the listing, it will be worst than AAX. It is good for Ranhill to settle the issue first but the question is when ?
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so now everyone will hoot Sona liao...lol..
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 24 2013, 08:22 PM) Ranhill assured investors that all the monies were being held held by the placement agents, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd and CIMB Investment Bank Bhd, as well as Malaysian Issuing House Sdn. Bhd. Does any one know how long the monies will be held by the bank? If asking the bank sure they love it ~ money makes money, but on investors side so unfair.."In any event, the allotment of the IPO shares to successful applicants as well as the listing of Ranhill has been deferred to a later date. Further details will be announced and necessary disclosures will be made in due course," it said. > until later date but unknown. but money stuck inside if like that. |
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After all, investment banks are the winner, especially when they are backed by the two biggest banks. When they 'overpriced' the IPO offer price, the one to suffer is the investors, while they get maximum underwriting fees.
When companies have problem and need to defer listing, they gain through the interest on monies that are held by them. SC need to be stern enough to avoid this investment banks from profiting in any situation. Since they have the first access to the financial account of the company, they should be the one to stop the company from going through the listing process. I think the investors should be careful of these two investment banks. Dont let the history repeat itself. |
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i ran down the hill to find a 10% discount voucher!!!!!
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Don't put salt on other people's wounds... Those alloted applicants are suffering now. Lesson for AAX and Ranhill: Don't always think that buying IPO can earn first hand money.
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i missed on the allocation for ipo.
dont know if its good or bad thing to me. to be seen at ipo day |
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For those who successfully alloted for the shares, stop reading the blog(definitely will affect your trading emotion and mental) and wait for further announcement from the company/bursa.
For those not alloted for the share, arrange your trading strategy for this stock. I think it will be a great play without O&G sector. |
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QUOTE(tottichien @ Jul 24 2013, 09:56 PM) For those who successfully alloted for the shares, stop reading the blog(definitely will affect your trading emotion and mental) and wait for further announcement from the company/bursa. petronas license is very important and precious for ranhilll.....For those not alloted for the share, arrange your trading strategy for this stock. I think it will be a great play without O&G sector. |
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Today's IPOs are not goldmines like that in the 1980s. The seller tries to price its IPO as near the market price as possible leaving peanuts for the applicants. They don't even show their prospective EPS in their prospectus nowadays. How is it then possible for the layman to evaluate the company's prospects?
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Sell sell sell sell sell
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Just speaking on behalf of those who got the shares... there are those people taking loan.. though i'm not one of them.
If god destined the shares to be down on opening be it.. accept it there will always be other sources. Stockmart be it OMO or IPO will always have risks associated with it. if the risks crystallised too bad.. accept it move on. what i said is between me & zitis. The rest please stay away... i don't know u guys... jgn masuk campur lah. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 24 2013, 11:07 PM) Just speaking on behalf of those who got the shares... there are those people taking loan.. though i'm not one of them. then take ur goddamm comment into Private Message.If god destined the shares to be down on opening be it.. accept it there will always be other sources. Stockmart be it OMO or IPO will always have risks associated with it. if the risks crystallised too bad.. accept it move on. what i said is between me & zitis. The rest please stay away... i don't know u guys... jgn masuk campur lah. i hate people who involved "god" in stock market. EDIT: i decided to put this guy in my ignore list for peace of mind This post has been edited by john123x: Jul 24 2013, 11:16 PM |
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Jul 24 2013, 10:46 PM) Today's IPOs are not goldmines like that in the 1980s. The seller tries to price its IPO as near the market price as possible leaving peanuts for the applicants. They don't even show their prospective EPS in their prospectus nowadays. How is it then possible for the layman to evaluate the company's prospects? Agree! Many time MITI offer shares eventhough the prospectus has yet to be uploaded into the SC website.We have to ask the regulators this question. Besides that, Investors have like one week to submit their application to without having enough time to digest prospectus and know the indicative price. |
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Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd has deferred its RM753 million initial public offering (IPO) after being instructed to do so by the Securities Commission (SC).
Market talk is that regulators will not allow Ranhill's listing until it comes clean on matters related to its O&G unit. "There is high possibility that Ranhill may be asked to re-submit its listing application and launch a new prospectus," said a source close to the company. |
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 25 2013, 07:10 AM) Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd has deferred its RM753 million initial public offering (IPO) after being instructed to do so by the Securities Commission (SC). Let's wait and see how then..Market talk is that regulators will not allow Ranhill's listing until it comes clean on matters related to its O&G unit. "There is high possibility that Ranhill may be asked to re-submit its listing application and launch a new prospectus," said a source close to the company. |
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chill brothers, dont be gaduh2la...like i said b4 its not done and dusted yet...allotment and listing are two different things...even if the banks will hold the money longer, they will never want to list if the mood is bad...all we can hope is something good will happen and just bear with it for the time being...gd luck
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dont worry so much as it not listing yet. but must keep wait for further announcement from SC and bursa. that might be the problem. waiting mode
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Hmm, if deferment, would they refund the money for the allotted shares or just hold it until listing?
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An SC spokesperson yesterday said the commission had instructed Ranhill and its principal adviser, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd, to defer the listing, including the allotment of shares to successful IPO applicants.
"Such deferment will continue until all necessary steps have been taken to ensure that relevant disclosures are made to enable informed investment decisions, and, if necessary, that IPO applicants are given the opportunity to decide whether or not to continue investing in the company," the spokesperson said. |
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QUOTE But if the appeal is successful, then a re-offer could be made that allows those who had put money in the listing to decide whether they wanted to proceed or get their cash back. “Petronas would not be easy to convince. They can’t be seen to be flip-flopping,” explained a source. “The IPO could still proceed after all this is settled. But it is left to be seen if Ranhill would be sanctioned for non-disclosure,” a fund manager said.#thestar These three sentences are very3 important. watch out their column...like this everybody no confident d...not worth to list anymore This post has been edited by hyzam1212: Jul 25 2013, 10:08 AM |
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Usually all this thing already use $$$ to gao dim everything to ensure a smooth listing. I guess someone in Ranhill step on someone toe in Petronas? Haha.. Very rare kind of thing happening
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All is not lost!
SC is reviewing Ranhill IPO and investors who subscribed may be offered their money back. Source: theedgemalaysia online http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...g-deferred.html |
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QUOTE(azlan88 @ Jul 25 2013, 01:35 PM) All is not lost! I m confident that the current ipo holders would be given option to exit from current position. Loosing the licence is material in my opinion. With the current situation all profit forecasts figures as per the prospectus are garbage. Really interesting to see ranhill's move.SC is reviewing Ranhill IPO and investors who subscribed may be offered their money back. Source: theedgemalaysia online http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...g-deferred.html |
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 25 2013, 01:08 PM) Usually all this thing already use $$$ to gao dim everything to ensure a smooth listing. I guess someone in Ranhill step on someone toe in Petronas? Haha.. Very rare kind of thing happening What I heard is:P has suspended R's license a few months ago. This is not a day 1 issue. |
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If true then a case of integrity down the drain...big shame
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QUOTE(Afro100 @ Jul 25 2013, 08:21 PM) The permit has since been restored after reaching a resolution with Petronas, WorleyParsons said in a separate statement today Apparently it got reinstated.http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-07-2...se-suspension-1 does this mean Ranhill got its license back or my reading comprehension fails me? |
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Maybe now ranhill agree to pay petronas high top management some amount of $$$ after the sale of the ipo ?? Haha
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That is really malaysia style !!!!!
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Ranhill Worley licence reinstated
Malaysian joint venture allowed back into upstream sector Australia’s WorleyParsons said the suspended licence of its Malaysian joint venture has now been reinstated, allowing it to conduct upstream activities in the country. http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article1333094.ece |
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Another rumours is that the permit was suspended few months back and not just yesterday!
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 25 2013, 08:33 PM) Ranhill Worley licence reinstated good news for investors. Malaysian joint venture allowed back into upstream sector Australia’s WorleyParsons said the suspended licence of its Malaysian joint venture has now been reinstated, allowing it to conduct upstream activities in the country. http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article1333094.ece |
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suddenly after ipo, few months later, license revoked again ? malaysia boleh !
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anything can happen in stock market here, trust yourself. enjoy
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lesen bawah (downstream) masih gantong ..... lesen atas punya (upstream) tarak gantong ..... dei apa la ...main2 jugak ..... he he...
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Later on the exact listing date.. Another mega hit news come on Ranhill again.. Lol
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Wah! Like that also can ? License suspended and a day later got it back ? What a joke!
Anyway, Ranhill reputation has been affected and i don't think the stock will be as hot as before. Most investors will be cautious about the development in the future in case similar issue happen again! My 2 cents. |
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jul 26 2013, 12:37 AM) Wah! Like that also can ? License suspended and a day later got it back ? What a joke! Your 2 cents is worth 22 cents i think.Anyway, Ranhill reputation has been affected and i don't think the stock will be as hot as before. Most investors will be cautious about the development in the future in case similar issue happen again! My 2 cents. Yea many investor will take a step back and reconsider. |
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Suka suka dia cakap gantung license n then dpt balik??? I doubt how they do things? Must b some under table things going on!!!!
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Petronas management took weeks to decide the suspension of Ranhill O&G unit license but it took 1 day to restore it! Something is totally wrong!
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Do you still trust the management of Ranhill after this? Petronas sure kena political pressure.
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Ballot again sure under subscribe!
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Like selling banana only ..... itu pisang gantong pon ok, put on table olso ok ..... lagi main2 .....
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Joke of the century.
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Dunno give how much $$$$ to some individual in Petronas this time around.
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Petronas removes Ranhill unit suspension, investors awaiting news on Ranhill Energy's listing
PETALING JAYA: Now that Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) has lifted its suspension on a key unit of Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, investors are keenly awaiting news on the latter’s listing. At press time, the Securities Commission (SC) had yet to issue a statement. On Wednesday, the SC had instructed the relevant parties to defer Ranhill Energy’s listing date and allotment of shares to investors. |
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yeah now only I think this news was tailor made, the next announcement will be the key...dont be surprise if they put on a show like getting or being frontrunner of a new job from petronas...nice
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The title is encouraging
RANHILL Energy and Resources Bhd’s RM753 million initial public offering (IPO) seems to be back on track after Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) lifted a freeze on a licence owned by an affliate company. It is understood that Ranhill will meet with key Securities Commission (SC) officials early next week to discuss if the IPO can proceed as originally scheduled. The stock was due to debut on Bursa Malaysia’s Main Market on July 31. “The SC will make a decision on whether to allow Ranhill to be listed next Wednesday, or have them reschedule the IPO to a later date,” sources told Business Times. The SC had on Wednesday instructed Ranhill and its principal adviser Maybank Investment Bank Bhd to defer the IPO following the licence freeze. Petronas suspended Perunding Ranhill Worley Sdn Bhd (PRW), a company 90 per cent-owned by Ranhill Energy’s chief executive officer Tan Sri Hamdan Mohamad, after a review of its construction work on the Malacca liquefied natural gas (LNG) regasification project. Yesterday, WorleyParsons Ltd — Australia’s biggest oil and gas engineering company — told Bloomberg that the permit had been restored after reaching a resolution with Petronas. Bloomberg also quoted the SC yesterday as saying that the listing deferment will continue. “This is until all necessary steps have been taken to ensure that relevant disclosure is made to enable informed decisions, and, if necessary, the IPO applicants are given the opportunity to decide on whether to continue investing in the company,” it said. The licence enables PRW to bid for Malaysian projects awarded by Petronas, which had pledged to spend RM300 billion in capital expenditure between 2011 and 2015. Petronas manages the rights to Malaysia’s oil and gas (O&G) reserves. Without a Petronas licence, companies cannot bid for local O&G jobs. PRW had appointed Ranhill WorleyParsons Sdn Bhd (RWorley) for secured projects in Malaysia. RWorley is jointly owned by Ranhill and WorleyParsons. Read more: Ranhill Energy IPO ‘back on track’ http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2a79eU0az |
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QUOTE(hyzam1212 @ Jul 26 2013, 10:24 AM) The title is encouraging Well that only means Ranhill have to right to bid for Petronas job, but Petronas is not oblige to award the contract to Ranhill..... Am I right? Political influence might forced Petronas to backtrack on the decision of revoking Ranhill's licence within days. But if you are Petronas will you still award contract to a company that you once tried to blacklist?RANHILL Energy and Resources Bhd’s RM753 million initial public offering (IPO) seems to be back on track after Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) lifted a freeze on a licence owned by an affliate company. It is understood that Ranhill will meet with key Securities Commission (SC) officials early next week to discuss if the IPO can proceed as originally scheduled. The stock was due to debut on Bursa Malaysia’s Main Market on July 31. “The SC will make a decision on whether to allow Ranhill to be listed next Wednesday, or have them reschedule the IPO to a later date,” sources told Business Times. The SC had on Wednesday instructed Ranhill and its principal adviser Maybank Investment Bank Bhd to defer the IPO following the licence freeze. Petronas suspended Perunding Ranhill Worley Sdn Bhd (PRW), a company 90 per cent-owned by Ranhill Energy’s chief executive officer Tan Sri Hamdan Mohamad, after a review of its construction work on the Malacca liquefied natural gas (LNG) regasification project. Yesterday, WorleyParsons Ltd — Australia’s biggest oil and gas engineering company — told Bloomberg that the permit had been restored after reaching a resolution with Petronas. Bloomberg also quoted the SC yesterday as saying that the listing deferment will continue. “This is until all necessary steps have been taken to ensure that relevant disclosure is made to enable informed decisions, and, if necessary, the IPO applicants are given the opportunity to decide on whether to continue investing in the company,” it said. The licence enables PRW to bid for Malaysian projects awarded by Petronas, which had pledged to spend RM300 billion in capital expenditure between 2011 and 2015. Petronas manages the rights to Malaysia’s oil and gas (O&G) reserves. Without a Petronas licence, companies cannot bid for local O&G jobs. PRW had appointed Ranhill WorleyParsons Sdn Bhd (RWorley) for secured projects in Malaysia. RWorley is jointly owned by Ranhill and WorleyParsons. Read more: Ranhill Energy IPO ‘back on track’ http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2a79eU0az |
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QUOTE(darx84 @ Jul 26 2013, 10:39 AM) Well that only means Ranhill have to right to bid for Petronas job, but Petronas is not oblige to award the contract to Ranhill..... Am I right? Political influence might forced Petronas to backtrack on the decision of revoking Ranhill's licence within days. But if you are Petronas will you still award contract to a company that you once tried to blacklist? I thought it have something to do with WarleyP more than Ranhill. Its JV partnership.PETROLIAM Nasional don't like orang asing |
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i believe is the political pressure...with Tabung Haji as the corner stone investor...
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Anything related to Tan Sri Hamdan,,,becareful....remember Senai Desaru Expressway....just matter of time....
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big cornerstone supporting rahill ipo.
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Or Big cronies?
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Those who unsuccessful application will say it is cronies..
Those who success will say strong corner stone investor... i dun care it is cronies or not most important it creats wealth to our pocket. Realistic world...cant we not apply any IPO if you see them around ? ha..ha.. QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 26 2013, 12:12 PM) |
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Cronies hand everywhere..
Kejap Suspend license, kejap restated back license. Only in Boleh Land |
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Kejap Privatized.. Kejap ini macam, itu macam.. Kejap kejap lagi, company hilang... Jet engine hilang.
Kalau tak dibendungkan, kejap lagi.. ada lembu di condominium This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Jul 26 2013, 03:23 PM |
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Lembu still free nowadays! Totally wrong!
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dont think too much. enjoy!
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Yesterday news is Lembu ada di-privatized... There will be no more cows soon
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Ranhill listing might see further delay despite reinstated Petronas licence, says analyst
There might be a further delay to energy and water group Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd’s (RERB) listing to allay jittery investors over the temporary suspension of an unit's Petronas licence, an analyst said today. Inter-Pacific Securities research chief Pong Teng Siew said he expected the IPO to be delayed further as the hiccup had made investors nervous. “The SC is very strict for on the stock market operating on an orderly basis but this incident has made investors jittery. “I envisage that there could be a huge selldown of the stock upon listing and because of this, the SC would want to defer the listing further to allow things to simmer down,” Pong told The Malaysian Insider in Kuala Lumpur today. Proceeds from the share sale are being safeguarded by two banks and the Malaysian Issuing House Sdn Bhd, RERB said in a statement yesterday. |
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Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd IPO cancelled
Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd’s initial public offer has been cancelled, it was learnt on Friday. The money collected from the successful applicants would be returned to the investors. |
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We can actually say that Petronas saved us all
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Maybank IB wishes to announce that the Company has today made a press release in connection with the IPO where the Board has decided to withdraw the application for the IPO which was submitted to the Securities Commission Malaysia on 14 January 2013 and not to proceed with the IPO. The Board will ensure that all application/placement monies for the IPO will be refunded to all applicants/investors without interest in a timely manner.
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will be hot for Sona on listing day !!!
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The full amount will be refunded to investors not later than 7 August 2013
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For those who protested, good job!
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IPO cancellaion is the best option for Ranhill as the damage done is beyond repair. Good news for investors but for Ranhill, it will take years to make a comeback.
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Blessing in disguise. But my personal anguish to the management of ranhill. Thank you for putting away integrity and conduct far away from professionalism.
I had to forgo earning dividend at least RM 2600 since the last 2 months for this shit. Blardy ranhill BOD. Thank you. |
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jul 26 2013, 08:35 PM) Blessing in disguise. But my personal anguish to the management of ranhill. Thank you for putting away integrity and conduct far away from professionalism. Can take back the money through refund consider lucky already. Just imagine if Ranhill proceed with the IPO and what will happen on listing day ? You will see selling pressure which will push the share lower and lower. By that time, your loss should be more than 2.6k!I had to forgo earning dividend at least RM 2600 since the last 2 months for this shit. Blardy ranhill BOD. Thank you. |
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SC do the right thing by withdrawn the listing. i guess its fair for all investor..
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jul 26 2013, 09:00 PM) Can take back the money through refund consider lucky already. Just imagine if Ranhill proceed with the IPO and what will happen on listing day ? You will see selling pressure which will push the share lower and lower. By that time, your loss should be more than 2.6k! Ya.. Kb. It could have been worst. But i have faith in our capital mkt system. What SC has done is commendable. |
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So if when RANHILL re-list, it will be another process of balloting ?
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 26 2013, 06:56 PM) Yeaaa... Good to hear that (even though im not in and never interested with it). I cant imagine if they decide to proceed the ipo.. I know there is something wrong with this company from beginning, thats why i keep to stay away and give negative feedback about it.Hope no one angry with my statement this time. |
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this company seem got powerful connection based on their portfolio. but the management level not so ok as it should be.
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/index.php?o...47878&Itemid=79
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heed my words......after few years, they will attempt to relist again......
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The Securities Commission, he insists, must give investors in these situations the option of getting their money back. “Their job is to protect us, the shareholders,” the minority investor says.
Market observers also wonder how PRW got its licence restored in the span of a week, noting that the initial suspension by Petronas must have been for good reasons. The cancellation of this IPO, the first in recent memory, will be conversation fodder for some time to come. |
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Jul 27 2013, 10:02 AM
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Oh My Petronas....
where's my million. |
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Jul 27 2013, 11:17 AM
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Just forget about this one and focus to SONA.
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Jul 27 2013, 11:23 AM
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As an employee of one of RERB's subsidiary, I'm deeply upset by the conduct of the BOD & upper management of RERB. Even our COO was not informed and learnt the news from Star Biz.
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Jul 27 2013, 01:18 PM
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Jul 27 2013, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 27 2013, 09:49 AM) The Securities Commission, he insists, must give investors in these situations the option of getting their money back. “Their job is to protect us, the shareholders,” the minority investor says. IF money is not returned 100% , how many dare to apply for new IPOs again Market observers also wonder how PRW got its licence restored in the span of a week, noting that the initial suspension by Petronas must have been for good reasons. The cancellation of this IPO, the first in recent memory, will be conversation fodder for some time to come. |
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Jul 27 2013, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(zitis @ Jul 27 2013, 06:18 AM) Yeaaa... Good to hear that (even though im not in and never interested with it). I cant imagine if they decide to proceed the ipo.. I know there is something wrong with this company from beginning, thats why i keep to stay away and give negative feedback about it. Good2, you made the right decision. Hope no one angry with my statement this time. Maybe next time I follow you |
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Jul 27 2013, 02:48 PM
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Jul 28 2013, 03:34 PM
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S,o I can close this TOPIC now.
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Jul 29 2013, 02:21 PM
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revisited oso not interested atm
PETALING JAYA (July 29, 2013): Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, which withdrew its plans for an initial public offering (IPO) on Friday, said it will refund all monies received to all applicants or investors by Aug 7, 2013, to the respective applicants' address maintained with Bursa Depository. Ranhill said the decision not to proceed with its IPO was taken after with its principal adviser, Maybank Investment Bank Bhd (Maybank IB) and joint global coordinators, Maybank IB and CIMB Investment Bank Bhd. Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd was seeking to raise up to RM753 million in its IPO slated this Wednesday. However, Ranhill said it has every intention to revisit an IPO and to achieve a market listing "at the earliest practicable date". In a statement on Friday, Ranhill said the Securities Commission (SC) had via its letter dated July 26, 2013 taken note of the board's decision and has notified that its approval granted via its letter dated June 11, 2013 has therefore lapsed. "Further, via the same letter, the SC also requires Ranhill and Maybank IB to ensure that all application/placement monies received from the applicants/investors are duly refunded in a timely and orderly manner in accordance with Section 245(7)(a) of the Capital Markets & Services Act, 2007 and to notify the SC upon completion of the said refunds," it added. Meanwhile, Ranhill said its Australian affiliate Perunding Ranhill Worley Sdn Bhd (PRW) had on July 25, 2013 received a letter from Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) stating that the suspension of PRW's licence for upstream activities had been lifted effective from the date of the letter. However, the suspension on downstream activities as set out in the letter from Petronas dated July 17, 2013 remains intact. Ranhill's IPO ran into trouble last Wednesday when the SC deferred its proposed listing after PRW's licence was suspended by Petronas. Ranhill also received flak for not informing the exchange earlier when the licence was suspended on July 17. Analysts had expected the deferment to severely impact investors mood and will likely affect the company's future listing prospects.#thesundaily |
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Jul 29 2013, 03:43 PM
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Ranhill should know better about timely disclosure
The thing that puzzles many is Ranhill Energy’s failure to make a disclosure on the suspension, as it was a material development coming very close to its listing. Those who had subscribed to the shares should have been informed of the development. Why did it then wait for the news to break and only then respond? Was it trying to contain information so that its listing was not jeopardised? Was it hoping that its appeal to Petronas would reverse the situation and that it would not have to make the disclosure at all? Or, was it that it only wanted to announce the suspension after the listing? That would appear to be an attempt to deceive the market, causing the share price to tank. Regardless of the questions surrounding the issue, Ranhill Energy’s predicament can be understood, because it is not easy to make a decision when your grand day is just around the corner. But in the corporate world where investments are also made by minority shareholders, investors have a right to know. So, there is no room for excuses for non-disclosure. |
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Jul 30 2013, 03:36 PM
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something must be wrong in their due dilligence for IPO...anyway...anybody receive the refund already for those initial successful investor ?
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Jul 30 2013, 03:46 PM
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refund if not mistaken early week next month.
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Jul 30 2013, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Jul 30 2013, 03:46 PM) PETALING JAYA (July 29, 2013): Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, which withdrew its plans for an initial public offering (IPO) on Friday, said it will refund all monies received to all applicants or investors by Aug 7, 2013, to the respective applicants' address maintained with Bursa Depository. |
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Jul 30 2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(goldironman @ Jul 30 2013, 03:54 PM) PETALING JAYA (July 29, 2013): Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, which withdrew its plans for an initial public offering (IPO) on Friday, said it will refund all monies received to all applicants or investors by Aug 7, 2013, to the respective applicants' address maintained with Bursa Depository. good. |
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Jul 30 2013, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(goldironman @ Jul 30 2013, 03:54 PM) PETALING JAYA (July 29, 2013): Ranhill Energy and Resources Bhd, which withdrew its plans for an initial public offering (IPO) on Friday, said it will refund all monies received to all applicants or investors by Aug 7, 2013, to the respective applicants' address maintained with Bursa Depository. |
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Jul 30 2013, 05:11 PM
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thought all the money kept within those investment bank account ?
shall do online refund. |
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Jul 30 2013, 05:19 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 05:21 PM
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after a year or two, ranhill definitely will relist again.
because the selling shareholder company wants to cash out a bit to settle debt.... malaysian people forget easily |
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Jul 30 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jul 30 2013, 05:21 PM) after a year or two, ranhill definitely will relist again. I would remember this IPO failure & would not apply it again. Anything to do with Ranhil or its related companies, I would "blacklisted" it because the selling shareholder company wants to cash out a bit to settle debt.... malaysian people forget easily |
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Jul 30 2013, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 30 2013, 05:27 PM) I would remember this IPO failure & would not apply it again. Anything to do with Ranhil or its related companies, I would "blacklisted" it yeah agree with u, no feel d with Ran Hill...they have to put new name la like that or just create water treatment SPAC loh |
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Jul 30 2013, 06:57 PM
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same here. wont apply this ranhilll back, wasting my time only.
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Jul 30 2013, 07:02 PM
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Tipuhill .....
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Jul 30 2013, 11:31 PM
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Say "NO" to Ranhill... Cheers
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Jul 31 2013, 02:11 AM
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Nvm repackaged and called Ranhil Again Berhad... 2014 IPO!
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Jul 31 2013, 09:54 AM
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Jul 31 2013, 03:23 PM
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sigh, wasted my time. now have to wait a week for my money to be refunded
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