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 (@_@)<>Proton CPS TribeĀ® V13<>(@_@), TT lunch Kari Kepala Ikan?

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carrera_gt
post Mar 6 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Mar 6 2013, 10:29 AM)
increase power i dont know la..  tongue.gif  but change to header/extractor 4-2-1 or 4-1 does give improvement.
4-2-1 broader power band..
4-1  power at higher rpm range..
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hmm..

4-2-1 = torque

4-1 = horsepower

rite?
TripleJ104
post Mar 6 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Mar 6 2013, 09:24 AM)
Walaowei bincang pasal exhaust..

how abt best sounding exhaust for CPS engine?

Straight pipe?
or any brand?
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Hehe sound depend on individual, some like vtec sound..some like bassy sound...for me i always admire boxer engine sound.

QUOTE(lowpro @ Mar 6 2013, 09:53 AM)
actually, i asked this because a stock persona iafm out dragged me on a very, very hot sunday afternoon. my cps is modded some more. so, i suspect it could be the heat affecting performance. i know the persona is 100% stock cos i know the owner. both cars are manual.
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Ooooo...Persona really have good low torque to start with thanks to its iafm. Some more its stock condition using 15in tire sure hard to beat the starting acceleration. Unlike us we need to rev for power & produce torque.

ive been there..kena dgn persona but halfway i got my revenge laugh.gif . Next time if wanna play traffic light drag, try set rpm @ 3,500 or a lil lower 4,000 rpm then when the light goes green just dump the clutch & standby 2nd gear..but this depend on your tire coz better tire can hold high rpm as they will unlikely to spin much.

QUOTE(eastwest @ Mar 6 2013, 09:59 AM)
tak minat bising whistling.gif
this setup can increase power?
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hehe tahu...power mmg increase bang..also the noise smile.gif . Tapi tak kuat sgt..
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post Mar 6 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Mar 6 2013, 12:14 PM)
hmm..

4-2-1 = torque

4-1 = horsepower

rite?
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Nope.

The difference about 4-2-1 & 4-1 header is about the power band. It should like this

4-2-1 = low - mid range power.

4-1 = mid - high range power.

I know there got graph shown how the power band spread. Try google or go to Mr drex fb.
carrera_gt
post Mar 6 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Mar 6 2013, 12:21 PM)
Hehe sound depend on individual, some like vtec sound..some like bassy sound...for me i always admire boxer engine sound.
Ooooo...Persona really have good low torque to start with thanks to its iafm. Some more its stock condition using 15in tire sure hard to beat the starting acceleration. Unlike us we need to rev for power & produce torque.

ive been there..kena dgn persona but halfway i got my revenge laugh.gif . Next time if wanna play traffic light drag, try set rpm @ 3,500 or a lil lower 4,000 rpm then when the light goes green just dump the clutch & standby 2nd gear..but this depend on your tire coz better tire can hold high rpm as they will unlikely to spin much.
hehe tahu...power mmg increase bang..also the noise smile.gif . Tapi tak kuat sgt..
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Boxer engine sound is sounded bubble...biggrin.gif

QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Mar 6 2013, 12:29 PM)
Nope.

The difference about 4-2-1 & 4-1 header is about the power band. It should like this

4-2-1 = low - mid range power.

4-1 = mid - high range power.

I know there got graph shown how the power band spread. Try google or go to Mr drex fb.
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Oh i see..thx bro..
edi seen Mrdrex fb about this..
good info.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 6 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Mar 6 2013, 08:11 AM)
for my car, got difference which was quite obvious when i use standard and iridium plugs. it was in response. after servicing, i used back standard plugs to save some money but the response was sluggish. so, after one week, i went and got myself another set of iridium plugs and the performance was back to where it was suppose to be.
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try brisk spark plug next. better than iridium.
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post Mar 6 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(TripleJ104 @ Mar 6 2013, 12:21 PM)
Hehe sound depend on individual, some like vtec sound..some like bassy sound...for me i always admire boxer engine sound.
Ooooo...Persona really have good low torque to start with thanks to its iafm. Some more its stock condition using 15in tire sure hard to beat the starting acceleration. Unlike us we need to rev for power & produce torque.

ive been there..kena dgn persona but halfway i got my revenge laugh.gif . Next time if wanna play traffic light drag, try set rpm @ 3,500 or a lil lower 4,000 rpm then when the light goes green just dump the clutch & standby 2nd gear..but this depend on your tire coz better tire can hold high rpm as they will unlikely to spin much.
hehe tahu...power mmg increase bang..also the noise smile.gif . Tapi tak kuat sgt..
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want burble sound? can.. make ur extractor not equal length.. sure got burble.. whistling.gif
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Exhaust kena tuned length and size juga kot.....x kisah ler 4-1 ker 4-2-1.
Kawe dulu dah banyak kali swap setup. 4-2-1 town drive cantekkk.
4-1 dup dup dah sampai top speed.
ajaibman
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Ajaibman - Exora M Line - WVPXXXX - Proton White - AT

Mod done :

Simota Drop in Air Filter
4-2-1 Tuned length Cap ayam Extractor
2 middle bullet muffler
S-flow back muffler
Adjustable Cam Pulley
LCP
FPR
EMS-1 Piggyback tuned by RS Dyno (Robyn)
Lowered Suspension Spring FGK
Rota Wheels

Now, tengah tabung for Sprintex smile.gif

Thanks everyone for allowing my Peti Sejuk 2 pintu joined LYN CPS tribe smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Samurai X @ Mar 6 2013, 08:56 PM)
Exhaust kena tuned length and size juga kot.....x kisah ler 4-1 ker 4-2-1.
Kawe dulu dah banyak kali swap setup. 4-2-1 town drive cantekkk.
4-1 dup dup dah sampai top speed.
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LOL hehe..

what best length and size for full exhaust include extractor, piping and muffler?

QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 02:55 PM)
Ajaibman - Exora M Line - WVPXXXX - Proton White - AT

Mod done :

Simota Drop in Air Filter
4-2-1  Tuned length Cap ayam Extractor
2 middle bullet muffler
S-flow back muffler
Adjustable Cam Pulley
LCP
FPR
EMS-1 Piggyback tuned by RS Dyno (Robyn)
Lowered Suspension Spring FGK
Rota Wheels

Now, tengah tabung for Sprintex smile.gif 

Thanks everyone for allowing my Peti Sejuk 2 pintu joined LYN CPS tribe smile.gif
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Super MPV... notworthy.gif
ajaibman
post Mar 11 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Mar 11 2013, 03:00 PM)

Super MPV... notworthy.gif
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Not super, just trying to overcome Proton fault when launching the "underpowered" CPS exora back in 2009 smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 05:34 PM)
Not super, just trying to overcome Proton fault when launching the  "underpowered" CPS exora back in 2009 smile.gif
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Oic..u need more torque to make ur pick-up less heavier..smile.gif

sprintex will do... brows.gif
much faster than cfe tongue.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 02:55 PM)
Ajaibman - Exora M Line - WVPXXXX - Proton White - AT

Mod done :

Simota Drop in Air Filter
4-2-1  Tuned length Cap ayam Extractor
2 middle bullet muffler
S-flow back muffler
Adjustable Cam Pulley
LCP
FPR
EMS-1 Piggyback tuned by RS Dyno (Robyn)
Lowered Suspension Spring FGK
Rota Wheels

Now, tengah tabung for Sprintex smile.gif 

Thanks everyone for allowing my Peti Sejuk 2 pintu joined LYN CPS tribe smile.gif
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welcum bro. have you dynoed? must have since install piggyback. what the power of you power exora.
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:26 PM

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Hi
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Mar 11 2013, 07:57 PM)
welcum bro. have you dynoed?  must have since install piggyback. what the power of you power exora.
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Last tested 131 HP and 167 nm Torque.. too much power loss on the Auto Trans.. but now the power are more linear, much torque came earlier, CPS opened @ 2300 by adjust the timing advance using the ACP+Piggy
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Mar 11 2013, 03:00 PM)
LOL hehe..

what best length and size for full exhaust include extractor, piping and muffler?
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As if I remember tongue.gif . Setup was fix on old 4G18 NA mod. Custom header but the rest is Everco setup.
I have not start modding my Campro CPS but I noticed the exhaust setup is bigger.

QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 08:38 PM)
Last tested 131 HP and 167 nm Torque.. too much power loss on the Auto Trans.. but now the power are more linear, much torque came earlier, CPS opened @ 2300 by adjust the timing advance using the ACP+Piggy
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Power output is decent for Campro CPS thumbup.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 09:27 PM

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if not using any piggy, can adjust the CPS activation rpm?

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post Mar 12 2013, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 08:38 PM)
Last tested 131 HP and 167 nm Torque.. too much power loss on the Auto Trans.. but now the power are more linear, much torque came earlier, CPS opened @ 2300 by adjust the timing advance using the ACP+Piggy
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on wheel?
btw, welcome to the club bro biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Mar 12 2013, 09:07 AM)
on wheel?
btw, welcome to the club bro biggrin.gif
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on Crank bro, thats why lot of losses in auto trans..
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post Mar 12 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Mar 11 2013, 08:38 PM)
Last tested 131 HP and 167 nm Torque.. too much power loss on the Auto Trans.. but now the power are more linear, much torque came earlier, CPS opened @ 2300 by adjust the timing advance using the ACP+Piggy
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not bad ah. your exora power already thumbup.gif
I was thinking of visiting rs . want to try their efr. But when they increase the price lost interest to do it.
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Mar 12 2013, 10:22 AM)
not bad ah. your exora power already  thumbup.gif
I was thinking of visiting rs . want to try their efr. But when they increase the price lost interest to do it.
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Thanks, I am not using EFR but the normal Fuel Pressure Regulator from Tomei with the pressure gauge. its sufficient, and the cost not that high..

Now, the problem is the Auto Trans, tried the demo exora from proreka with Sprintex on it, the CPS really powerful but its the transmission is lethargic, since its the kebiri version of Mitsu InvecsII which proton took out the Steptronic features.



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