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Andy214
post Aug 29 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 29 2012, 02:26 PM)
wow.....ISO 900?! just shutter 1/60 or 1/80 la

you spot meter on her face but the side of her face still blown out

you should be able to recover the shadow area if you use matrix metering, fill the dark area to half of your frame, shoot -0.3 or -0.7 underexpose in manual mode, check in-camera histogram if no black and white clipping in the histogram then should be fine

and shoot NEF
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Shooting underexpose on the subject will affect the overall subject image quality, muddy detail/noise, color, etc.

For such situation, since it's a planned shoot (I supposed?), better use reflector or fill-flash.


QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 29 2012, 04:43 PM)
er..no nid afraid noise..D700..  drool.gif
i shot RAW.. er..i tried all the metering..seems others were like black. so the background has to be white already..cz the sky memang white..
24-70 is the lens i love best on a FF..well cz can shoot a lil wide..n can shoot a lil zoom..convinient n high performance.haha.
i think dun sell lar..i heard some other selling 2470 then got 28mm f/1.4.. now regret adi..
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Can experiment with reflector and Fill-Flash, see the different outcome, from there you can gain more experience and so on.

Experiment and trying to different things can help to understand and learn more things instead of sticking to one technique. I got a friend who refuse to use flash for similar situation, after shoot the photo, we compare and I also show him different photo taken without flash, with flash and different exposure. The flash is just acting as a fill-ins the dark/shadow areas, like a Fill Light.



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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Aug 29 2012, 08:21 PM)
it's a small competition plus photoshooting..yeah fill flash would work best..get a lightbox n shoot.haha..thx for tips n tricks~  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(stan001 @ Aug 29 2012, 08:35 PM)
I viewed this Nikon School : Guide to Creative Lighting

Wow, I didn't know the Speedlight can do so many lighting magic...

Part 1:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUY66-RqhKM...=5&feature=plcp
PRT 2:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KpI4Sl9bc...=4&feature=plcp
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Yup, there's many things to learn and explore.

Try and read the manual on how the speedlight works, it's really amazing how many information is needs to process in such a short time and how fast it can do it all.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 31 2012, 12:30 PM)
just back from dataran merdeka, stand in media zone without media pass like a boss laugh.gif

but i have to say that some photojournalist has very bad attitude, got one guy simply push me away to get the front row position vmad.gif
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Hard to blame them, try to put yourself in their shoe or try take up their job and experience it.

They need to deliver the results to their boss/company/client. There're soooo many photojournalist there, can they wait for one another? By the time your turn, you think the moment/shot will wait for you?
This is not model shoot, etc.
Plus this is a very BIG event.

Even for small events, like car launch, etc. There can be many many photojournalist, if you're shooting for yourself, then you wouldn't feel any pressure or MUST go and take the shot when it's crowded. BUT, imagine if you're company for a magazine/newspaper and they send you there. Are you gonna stand there and ask for other photojournalist to give you your turn? Let's say the car came out and the VIPS went up, you have only the few moments to get that shot, and it's full of photojournalist... Not only that... there're guest also squeezing there trying to take shot using their handphone/iPad, whatever. So, just imagine if you're a photojournalist send by a company/magazine, how pressure/stress and frustrated when many people are blocking you.

It also depends what moment, if during say, photo session with VIPS, etc. during the event where you're given ample time, the photojournalist will be friendly/polite and let others take their turn.

I'm not any photojournalist, but if one try to understand and imagine/look from their viewpoint/perception, you can roughly understand them.

You can also think about Wedding, during the bride and groom marching in, nobody is stopping and waiting for you. If you're the hired photographer, and there's guest holding their DSLR, Phone Camera, iPads, etc. standing in front of you blocking you while the couple is marching in. Will you take your time to ask the guest to give you way, etc?


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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 5 2012, 11:45 AM)
pleasuresaurus - give it a try, if you fancy sashimi or sushi, their raw fish stuffs really fresh and taste great and to me that's what i'll order again next visit. remember to go at tues or fri if possible, those are the days when they import the raw stuffs. other than that most other dishes are very well prepared and cooked. biggrin.gif

Everdying/Agito - lol! laugh.gif

KTCY - OK points taken, guess I can't please everyone! but i still find that dark room analogy isn't a particularly good one or else all my shots look much darker than they are. laugh.gif

this one looks better? hmm.gif
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Usually people prefer warmer tones and or be in the scene/mood.
Really depends what is your photo for. If for yourself, then as long as you like the output.

Warmer output is usually what produce by most camera, possibly because they also know people prefer warmer tones, got the "mood" people say. Like in Wedding Dinner, you see guest taking photos, the whole thing yellow, they like it. Those photo with correct WB and color corrected, some people purposely apply the those effects filter to make it look yellowish somemore.
So really depends.

For professional or product shoot, it'll be about getting the accurate color instead.

Correct/Corrected WB, will give more accurate color and actually will give better result, especially if you compare in detail on the picture.




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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 5 2012, 04:01 PM)
i thought D7k starting price is 4.5k?
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You mean when launch? That's with kit-lens.
If body only, the starting street price was around RM3800++
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 12 2012, 06:42 AM)
"Rear LCD: Exquisite 3.2," 921,000 pixels" --> not sure if this comes with a green tint...

"Nikon announced an optional Wi-Fi transmitter for the camera. The WU-XX clips into the USB socket of the D600 and allows you to broadcast its images to smartphones and tablets running a Nikon app. The unit allows the camera's live view output to be streamed to the smart device and allows images to be shot remotely. The WU-XX immediately transfers photos and also allows you to upload them to social networks to share with friends and family" --> I like this one!
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Samseng latest NX series have this feature, saw the video review on YouTube.
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QUOTE(opfish @ Sep 12 2012, 03:21 PM)
Talking about architecture/building shot, this was taken at Legoland. What's the name of the building ah?

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Is that Moire or?
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post Sep 14 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(ongdennis @ Sep 14 2012, 11:10 AM)
but when in DX mode, it only using partially of the sensor size that like D7000. what will be the significant gain then?
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QUOTE(fubs @ Sep 20 2012, 07:43 AM)
So I was wondering, with the release of D600, seems like lots of DX users are planning to upgrade to FX. But looking at the upgrade costs (around rm8k for D600 and one FX lens), probably it's better to stay with DX and buy a 70-200mm instead.

Is a body change (DX to FX) marginally better than a 70-200mm on DX? :\
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Depends what are you using the camera for. If for hobby, the depend if you have the $$ and willing to spend.
D600 is Full Frame Sensor, obviously there will be a lot of difference overall. Again, depends what are you using the camera for? what do you shoot? do you need it? Got $$? Willing to spend?
Upgrading to FX you might want to get an FX lens to fully utilize the focal length and MP (FX lens means there's more $$ involved aside from the body itself); of course, you can still use the DX mode and make do, all depends on you.

One more thing, put your eye to the viewfinder on a FX body, you will see something different already.

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QUOTE(yfyap69 @ Sep 20 2012, 09:34 AM)
Yes, the viewfinder.....That is wha make me pull the trigger....
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Yea, one thing really not satisfied with DX viewfinder, wanna magnify it bigger to see more clearly, tongue.gif

But FX sensor, will bring overall improvements also. Besides, according to fstoppers link posted by CY above, he also mentioned in the comment, the D600 is slightly better than the D700 (suppose he mean image quality, noise, etc.)
After all, bigger sensor surely is different, just like when we move from a smaller sensor (let's say M4/3 to a APS-C sensor DSLR. So, moving to Full Frame is another leap.
Of course, as mentioned before, it depends on the individual needs, the purpose, $$$, etc.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 20 2012, 10:39 AM)
I see D80 in last friday i already sold lol  sweat.gif
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Missing one zero very big difference leh

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:20 AM)
i mean my friend's D80 unsure.gif
i dont even know D80 already change to use SD card.  sweat.gif
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Haha, was talking about FX ViewFinder then you mentioned about D80 that you're sold, plus you wanted to get D800 before, so thought you were trying to say D800.
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QUOTE(fubs @ Sep 20 2012, 03:54 PM)
Looking at medium format viewfinder wowed me... is there a significant difference from DX > FX viewfinder? But then again, even so, i don't think it's justifiable to spend rm8k~

Willing to spend? Yes. But on what... that's the question sad.gif Looking for the most bang-for-buck.
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Of course, that's just one of it. The most significant difference is of course the result from the sensor.

As mentioned, it depends what do you use the camera for, etc. If it's just for hobby, does the person really need a Full Frame DSLR, it depend on the decision of the person and whether it's worth to spend the amount of money on it.

It's just as how some would upgrade from D7000 to D700; Of course, D700 have other features like more AF points and so on. It really depends what you're looking for.

DXO mark already produce result for D600 and currently it place third after both the D800.


QUOTE(fubs @ Sep 20 2012, 03:54 PM)
Sounds good. DX lenses on FX should save a lot of money. How much does a 28-70 (2.8?) costs?
Guess this is a body vs lens dilemma biggrin.gif I have always stand by the lens side, but then D600 came and turn everything around. Haven't tried one yet, but looking at the spec, i like it's weight (lighter than a D300), size (D300 with grip is just a tiny bit too big for comfort), great price imo (almost as much as i paid for the D300s when it came out).

I think i'll take my time to upgrade to FX smile.gif Lens first, body second. D600 successor maybe? tongue.gif Anyone knows when the 70-200 F4 coming out? Been waiting forever for that tongue.gif
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This is usually the dilemma for people to upgrade from DX to FX as the lenses is another issue (more for Canon users). Again, it also depend what you shoot and what's your lens preference. For those who uses the standard fast zoom, that would mean the need to get the 24-70mm f/2.8 which can cost almost another D600 body, unless you got for the kits lens bundled with D600.


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QUOTE(yfyap69 @ Sep 21 2012, 01:29 PM)
Me
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So your current lens?
Did you change or?
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QUOTE(weng98 @ Sep 23 2012, 08:23 PM)
hi sifus sifus here....

I've just noticed two constant dots on my photos... it is not from the lens ... does it mean the cameras sensor is dirty or needs some software programming of something.. I've tried cleaning with in camera cleaning but to no avail.. if really do need to send.. where is the Nikon service centre in pj and maybe a cost of repair estimation... my d3100 thank you in advance
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Sensor Cleaning only takes few minutes. Nikon BTS can do it as well.


QUOTE(bad melatonin @ Sep 23 2012, 08:57 PM)
any1 can help?
another thing, does D600 has HSS flash x-sync ?
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Sep 26 2012, 12:24 AM)
I think this was under VIVID mode hahaha! the red really over over.. when I saw the print out  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif I ask the guy can i reprint but another photo ah... they say cannot =_=


Added on September 26, 2012, 12:25 am

yea, and the best part. the sun was so bright I couldt see my LCD properly... hahaha good experience 1st time shoot n print from camera
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Shooting VIVID the color will over saturate, also depending on the exposure and lighting, etc.
Safer to use standard or portrait for human, and manually adjust vibrance/saturation/etc later. If you shoot with high saturation as default, not much room for recovery later as the file is already processed. It's like if you overcooked a meat, then you cannot undo later.


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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:53 AM)
but it kill more germs and safer to eat tongue.gif
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Haha, if you like overcooked then OK lo, tongue.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 1 2012, 10:00 AM)
well that's stating the obvious leh, for sure setting is depending on situation.

even so, unless you're spending most time for some reason shooting in dark areas without flash, i don't see why you would go above 1600, hence the rarity of such high ISO photos. smile.gif

see, even in your case is 5% above ISO 1000. what more those above 1600, which is those within the 5%. tongue.gif


Added on October 1, 2012, 10:15 amthat said, approx 30%+ of my photos are ISO 800 or higher.

approx 60%+ of my photos are ISO400 or lower.

the high ISO shots many are just test shots. and many of the low ISO shots are probably repeated, eg RAW vs JPG vs JPG copy or something from projects.
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Depends what person shoot I guess. Shooting at events with dim light hall, group photos, moving subject, etc. Most of the shots will easily be in high ISO category, easily above 1600. Unless maybe the person use more direct flash and didn't care about the ambient/background exposure.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 1 2012, 02:28 PM)
yeah depends on the person also la. if i full time shoot event in ballroom, then i think most of my shots will be like that cos i shoot f5.6, ISO usually 1000 - 1250 and shutter around 1/100.

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https://www.facebook.com/events/185605531574592/?fref=ts
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Over 100++ people attending from FB alone. How big is the place?

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 3 2012, 05:34 PM)
Anyone know?
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Not sure got anyone own or uses that before, so very hard to get answer.

Nowadays, you can google and find many reviews, even better, go YouTube, you can find video reviews.
I think DigitalRevTV did review this PZD version before.

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