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noruazumi
post Jan 14 2013, 11:25 AM

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I've seen "refrigerant" been used too. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 11:04 AM

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Sometimes, I just don't understand how Petronas works.

They called-in bunch of people for interview, recommended many and kept them waiting for many months.

Why won't they call people upon actual vacancies? I know some got their placements almost instantly upon recommendation but how about others? Why waste other people's time for an interview when there's no vacancies?

Maybe Petronas staffs here can give better picture.
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 21 2013, 11:47 AM)
To create illusion that they are actually working
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Ha ha!
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post Jan 29 2013, 12:07 PM

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Speaking of Rapid Project, last week I heard rumors that this project kena called-off or some sort.
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post Jan 29 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(badyuan @ Jan 29 2013, 12:24 PM)
wil depend on the coming Election i guess, but rumors is just rumors.
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Normal pre-election case then. Ha ha!
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post Feb 20 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(lanforex90 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:16 PM)
need everyone's help. firstly, i've finished my undergraduate studies in mechanical engineering degree in january 2013. cgpa just 3.0 and only apply job for o&g because 'high pay and increment they said'. but what happened to me is:

1st offer as management trainee at CARIMIN only RM1.8k but 4 years bonded
2nd offer as qc inspector at OMS oilfield services only RM1.5k
3rd offer as junior project engineer at RWNA only RM1.8k

hr said i can start working immediately if i want but i think its underpaid. i'm still considering since this is my 1st job. so need everyone's help here. should i accept or wait another offer and intrvw? or 1.8k is normal for fresh grad with degree? or try other industry?
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What the heck, that lousy Carimin also kena bond kah? biggrin.gif

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post Feb 20 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(viole @ Feb 11 2013, 04:53 PM)
hello everyone..i'm new here smile.gif

am registering here in lyn forum just to know sifus2 and otai2 OnG here biggrin.gif  they say, who you know is just as important as what you know eh? tongue.gif

but still, i've a question..

am a student, currenty in my third year. is there any chance for me doing my engineering internship/practical in OnG industry (preferably offshore)? which company should i prioritize the most? my intern starts in this upcoming september (still early, i know). i'm doing my EE degree but am looking forward to working in offshore.

SLB and shell are what i really hope for tapi cgpa cukup2 makan je, around 2.9...macam susah sad.gif
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Going to offshore is not like going to shopping mall.

Minimum requirements for you to be able to go to offshore are
1. Medical report that shows that you are fit to work offshore
2. BOSIET which is a safety course comprising sea survival and helicopter escape

Medical examination going to cost RM400 to RM600.
BOSIET going to cost you RM1500 to RM2000.

So you see, it is costly. I don't know any companies that are willing to spend money to send trainee that only going to be with the organization for few months to offshore.

But you'll never know...

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post Feb 20 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Feb 20 2013, 11:13 AM)
Hello guys. I got an offer  for lab engineer position under scomi. What is the job scope? Thanks
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Usually, job offer comes with offer letter or something that contains details of your employment. Yes, inclusive your job scopes as well. Unless the company offers you a job out of nowhere, you should have at least some brief ideas on what you need to do or something when you applied for the job.


This is actually worrying.

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post Feb 21 2013, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Feb 20 2013, 11:35 PM)
three of my colleagues went offshore during their internships at different companies. one went as a mud engineer, another as a drilling engineering, and the other as field engineer. and those three are local companies.

when sent offshore they had to work like a permanent staff, none of those photocopying, waterboy job.

so to those students still in the process of applying for internships don't lose hope.  thumbup.gif
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Many years back, Petronas interns were sent to offshore as part of their internship programs. Last time I check, Petronas is not sending their interns to offshore anymore due to safety reasons.

There should be companies that send out their trainees to offshore, I guess but I don't know any.

But from what I can tell from my experience, offshore is not really a place to learn, it is a place to work. Every minute counts and we can't afford to have mistakes just because the personnel is not competent.

BTW, I am just curious. Why do undergrads really eager to go offshore? Do you think gaining weight at offshore is fun? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Feb 21 2013, 12:39 PM)
Like most of the guys in Yellow Coverall (DE Trainee, Wellsite Eng Trainee, etc), went to the rig floor everyday but hardly seen their coverall dirty..EyePower...
But honestly, It is a good experience to see the operations with your own eyes...
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You can't say much about those ppl that work for a company that owns the platform. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Feb 21 2013, 09:26 AM)
Because of the money for sure. Going offshore is no fun yo if you cant handle it. For some, quitting offshore jobs is like striking lottery tickets.  rclxms.gif
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That depends on who you work for and what you do. Can't say all offshore trips are worth the money.
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post Feb 21 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(skiptoawan @ Feb 21 2013, 11:11 AM)
IMO, its better than working in the office.
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Are you married?

QUOTE(win44 @ Feb 21 2013, 12:45 PM)
Gaining weight offshore now.  sweat.gif
But yes, the fresh-grad pay is well worth the health sacrifice. lol.
True that!
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Most of time, there is a gym. I just got off from an installation last early this week, the gym is near to switchgear room. Haha.
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post Feb 21 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Feb 21 2013, 01:38 PM)
There are PLENTY of jobs in OnG, just that fresh grads nowadays are just too picky. Always aiming for the big ones, that is why hard for them to land a job.

OnG is all about the experience guys. Its okay if you cant get into a BIG company with HUGE salary. Start from the smaller ones, gain some experiences and then JUMP. Even companies now are taking in people with at least 3-5 years of experience.
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Or if they really want to go offshore, they can be a cook/chef. Cook/chef goes to offshore too. Haha!

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post Feb 21 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ohsome @ Feb 21 2013, 06:45 PM)
Hi.

When I read back all the previous O&G threads from V1 to V3...I notice a lot of them who is working for consultants/fabricators seem eager to go offshore. Switching to service providers instead. Is money the only reason? Experienced consultants do have pretty fat paycheques right if I'm not mistaken..don't they?

Would u recommend a fresh grad to go for field work first before switching to other lines? For the hands-on experience or the better exposure on how things actually work there. Is it necessary?

Thanks a bunch!
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You need to ask yourself what you WANT to do first before asking us what you need to do. How do we know whether you are capable or not?
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post Feb 21 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(skiptoawan @ Feb 21 2013, 10:23 PM)
No, I am not. Haha why?
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Haaaaaaa, after you get married and had babies, remember to reply to this thread. Hehe.

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post Feb 22 2013, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(ohsome @ Feb 22 2013, 12:09 AM)
Alright.

Sometimes the more I read from the thread, the more I know, the more I realize I do not know and the more confused I am.

I THINK I lean toward doing design and calculation stuff. That's what I enjoy the most in my coursework as of current. Naturally, I think I'm more suited to the consultation side of the business.

But reading posts from those who are working for top consultants such as Technip RWP etc, some of them were actually desperate to get out of their jobs and go offshore instead. Is it because of the boring 9-5 routine? Money? The bad environment that drives their passion off? I would really love to ask these guys one by one but too bad the posts were too old. They have already gone inactive in lowyat.

And I remembered reading some posts from people saying that due to the lack of exposure/hands on experience, fresh grads who join consultants right away can't deliver as good as those who has field work/fabrication yard experience previously. As they designs are too 'theoretical'...or so they say. I'd like to know how true is this too.

Thank you so much. Would really love to hear your advices..
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If that's the case, you can either opt for

1. engineering consultantion companies (i.e. PRW/RWP, Technip, Aker, RNZ, OPE/FW, DPS, Mustang, etc.) where you do things by discipline (electrical, instrumentation, process, piping, structural, architecture, safety, etc.)

OR

2. vendors which often do EPCC/EPCIC on specific system/skid (i.e. Siemens, ABB, etc.). More exposures on cross-disciplines. Plenty of vendors in Malaysia.

Money-wise is subjective. There's no definite assurance that you can get better pay if you go to field. You may get additional allowances (i.e. offshore allowance, hardship allowance, meals/laundry allowances, etc.) as compared to fixed salary if you do office-based work.

The choice is up to you. But do know, how much you get is determined by your experience, knowledge, competency and reputation. You got to do the years before you can enjoy the "fame & fortune". If you are fresh, choose the things that you think you can enjoy doing it. Enjoy the work & do your best. Once you are the best, you can get the best.
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(bolosai @ Feb 22 2013, 12:07 PM)
if i got experience going offshore doing hvac, will the offshore experience be useful in future? let's say i wanna go for other jobs at the offshore platform such as drilling or inside a plant such as crude oil terminal
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How about you tell us what is the relationship between HVAC and drilling? I can't find any technical relationship, maybe you can.
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post Feb 22 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(bolosai @ Feb 22 2013, 01:28 PM)
i know there's hardly any technical relationship between hvac n drilling. wad i mean is, will the company see ur experience going offshore useful or not let's say im applying some other offshore job in future?
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My personal opinion, your HVAC experience only applies to related disciplines which are electrical and mehanical. Other than that, hard to tell.
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post Mar 18 2013, 01:21 AM

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1. The fact that you created this id just to diss an old time forumer who has been contributing a lot to this thread and other related threads is just sad.

2. If you really have a problem with Petronas, why don't you highlight this to the HR and management instead of being a pretentious douche. You may get better feedback and prolly a solution to your dilemma.

3. It is surprising to know a Petronas staff who was a scholar and passed the strict interviews displayed such attitude.

4. It is either you serve your bond and you pay back to Petronas. It is that simple. Some of my UTP friends were scholars. Exxon seems no problem getting them on board.

5. Grow up.
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post Mar 18 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Mar 18 2013, 01:43 PM)
I was a Petronas scholar too, ages ago. When I came back after graduation (with honors too), it was at the tail end of recession in the late 1980s. Jobs were still not 'plentiful' in the country. Petronas also did not have many opening for fresh graduates (it had hundreds of fresh graduates at that time), and they let me off the bond (yeehaa! thumbup.gif ). I work in O&G related companies from construction, design consultants and operators till today.

The irony was, my batch who had to repeat their classes and graduated a year or 2 after me were quickly hired by Petronas when they came back! I guess the timing was perfect for them since Petronas, especially Carigali was expanding rapidly. But I was glad they did not try to 'call me' back after letting me go. PHew!  whistling.gif I was already earning double the pay of Petronas engineer of the same age.
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A friend (grad from UTP) purposely flunked the interview so that she won't be called to work for Petronas. She worked for contractor in Kerteh, paid off the Petronas scholar loan within 3 years. Total amount that she paid was a lot lesser than public university.

She told me she has no regret after seeing how miserable her friends right now at Petronas. biggrin.gif

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