Guild War 2 discussion about Mesmer!!!


This post has been edited by Jigoku: Aug 29 2012, 11:57 AM

no1 play mesmer?

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/46560-...r-spvp-in-work/

i play mesmer, interesting profession. not sure what builds i should follow. any good build to follow for PvE and WvWvW?

I am going for Power Mesmer

Our class seems a bit... confused. I look at the traits and I get confused myself. Go mesmers!

in GW1, mesmer is about hex (debuff) kind of attack, as well as interruption.

in GW2, they are changed a bit.....

how changed ooo? how well do they survive in PvE btw?

A dual wielding mesmer should be nice!!

i mean in GW1, mesmer is pure magic class. in GW2 can do physical damage as well..

im also confused myself. haha. i havent put a single trait yet coz im not sure where to go

actually how to i earn skill points??by killing and quests??cant find anywhere that indicates where do i get my skill points..

you can get skill point by doing skill challenge (marked as ^ on map) and by leveling up, and some says also by doing dynamic events, but i didn't chk on that

What is bad now is that my illu hit harder than me

haha... mirror lawan taukey ke ?

reporting in 34lvl human Mesmer

do not estimate a Mesmer ability, they can do crazy amount of damage while supporting your teammate to kill opponent and without hurting yourself.

super escape artist with phantasm,clone,invisible and chaos armor as well as teleporter.

Mesmer is not a dps burst class, you will not see big number damage and few shot to kill your enemy immediate but what a Mesmer can do is to outlast your opponent to make them little bit of something in stun,confuse, slow, condition-ing, mindwrack, confusing illusion and as well as morphing your enemy. It makes your opponent hate to deal with you and require seek for help from their teammate to prevent 1vs1 with you.

While on top of that, you get some crazy supporting skill ( yes I mean crazy)to support your team member in certain condition like helping them removing all their condition/buffing up their boon and swapping boon from your opponent to become yours while returning them your dangerous condition back to your enemy, all of this kind of CC-ing spell counter attack and defensive spell to supporting your class which what makes Mesmer abit unique to other classes.

I can write a lot regardless Mesmer class but meh I'm a lazy person to describe em.

conclusion - Mesmer is a class here to support your team and to deal certain amount of dps to your victim.

a few Quick Tips - I try out a few build for leveling, IMO i prefer both weapon to be 2hd staff/2hd sword while swapping in 1hd sword + pistol or focus as offhand for the extra swiftness.

Traint Point are there for you to build your Mesmer to suit your play style. here are some of the build which easily find on any gw2 forum/guideline conditional base Mesmer, power based, crit based, vitality high hp tanker type based or a balance based is all up to your preferences.


I'm having so much fun to play this class. Totally worth for my 60buck to play a class which not on the classic class list like warrior, thieves, ranger, mage etc.

This post has been edited by snake1983: Aug 29 2012, 12:03 PM

60 bucks ? u stay in the USA ?

Going Sword/Sword and Greatsword now. For normal mobs and soloing, Sword/Sword deals crazy damage and is more than enough to burst things down in one cycle of iSwordsman, Leap, Frenzy and Mind wrack. For tougher mobs, iBerserker and 2 mirror blades, stab, wave, and swap back to swords should take them out.

I do miss the AoE of the staff tho. Keep a staff in the bag for situations where mass AoE > all. Like most Dynamic Events right now.

I prefer my build of Staff +Sword+Pistol.
Occasionally take in the Focus/Lantern or somesort for my aoe phantasm whirldwind attack LOL

i made a loki mesmer

I found that Staff + Scepter/Torch fits my playstyle for soloing. I didn't like Pistol 5 accidentally pulling mobs. Also, both Staff and Torch have skills that break targeting.

Mesmer Mesmer Y u no active member

one of the most fun jobs to play. But my friend will be playing so i play my usual guardian.

a lvl13 Mesmer here. Its quite enjoyable to play a Mesmer

im a lvl 14 mesmer
duno what im doing half of the time and is just spamming keys lool

Playing as a staff / scepter + pistol mesmer, seems to fit my play style, mostly generating clones for the special skills of the class.

However, I'm wondering is "allies" party members or they can be anyone near to us? Been wondering it for sometime now

This post has been edited by aliffasuka: Sep 1 2012, 11:37 AM

Anyone near you even if he/she is not in ur party as long as your aoe buff for example NULL Field and the Chaos Storm is cast where they are standing and they are in the range of the aoe = BUFF UP

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Sep 1 2012, 11:42 AM

Ahh cool, so changing to staff mes when doing events helps a lot

Dont forget ur elite skills and the 6 7 8 buff spell also do help them

Yeah, im running it with signet of inspiration for the tume being, still havent fully explored the class.

Btw anyone running a condition mesmer? Would like to know how well they run since im seeing a majority of skills trigger conditions, would very much like to go on that path

Sorry i am a Power Mesmer,and you might wanna see any kind soul here who play can give you some info regarding condition mesmer

Oh well guess I'll just try to experiment with the build.

mesmer reporting in

greatsword+staff for pve n 2v2



but got suspended for 72 hrs =.= fk!!!

This post has been edited by lordsapt: Sep 2 2012, 02:40 AM

Lvl 30 mesmer. So far the staff remains as the weapon of choixe

You guys can lvling Personal Story questing?
my level 25 but the quest recommended level 30.
very hard to run the quest.

Had a Lvl20 Ranger and decided to try this Meme..

Had so much fun with it. Only lvl 17 now, I like MH Staff + Offhand Sword/Pistol.

P/S: Part of the reason of changing is when I went to sPVP, I was a complete idiot fighting with Meme.. those crazy illusions always break my heart.

Level 9 mesmer reporting in lolol.

Idk whether to go staff -> sword + pistol or GS -> sword pistol combo lol.

Staff seems more burst and more intelligent play, but GS seems to be more fun haha

lvl 39 mesmer reporting. currently on a power build. kinda good so far. but i might need to up my toughness soon. was abit paper when i did my run is ascalon catacombs

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Added on September 4, 2012, 1:31 pmdepends really. the greatsword has some good skills while the staff is good when u have party members with you. i personally use the staff/greatsword coz i think that it is good. sword pistol is also nice but i havent got a good sword pistol in awhile :/

This post has been edited by sora_world07: Sep 4 2012, 01:31 PM

sword pistol for PvP actually. Pistol mesmers are really strong because of the illusionist spawn. It focus on one target and shots rapidly.

GS is a general great weapon for all class, cool looking, strong and f***ing cool looking. floating GS casting range skills? bury GS come out illusion attack the at range? YES PLEASE!

No comments on staff, not a mesmer just a tester

Im using GS/Staff combo atm. Quite nice for PvE

even with toughness and vitality traits
still feels kinda jelly

Im playing a 80 mesmer staff and sword/focus. Condition 30 power 10 toughness 30 im like a walking nuke bomb with the shatter skill as I slot a trait that allow me to shatter onto myself. The reason I went sword/ focus is mainly the speed buff to chase those annoying their and also as a pulling mechanism if u trigger it the 2 nd time. I do great dmg overtime but not direct dmg

haha.. yeah. Well, have to make good use of the illusions. I prefer to have 5 points in the illusions traits. Gives me that 20% reduced cooldown for illusion skills.

This my build for pvp.

HP = 20k
Crit Chance = 48%-50%

My Build for pvp

This post has been edited by ageh84: Sep 6 2012, 10:59 AM

Want to create a Male Mesmer but really not sure to go with Human or Sylvari. Can't decide which race looks better with the Mesmer armor.. Hmm

So far armor on sylvari mesmer seems better to me, human armor are kinda normal.

Changed my off hand to focus, and went as a clone bomb mesmer, since 10 trait in chaos gives a skill that inflicts random condition on a nearby foe when a clone dies. Pumped up domination 10 to get 20% extra damage for mind wrack. Didnt bother using +15% damage for illusions since clone only deals 3 damage for me, not sure if its bugged but seems to be way weaker for a clone.

And both of the focus skill can instantly become a combo by summoning a warden and placing the veil skill on top of him.

Currently trying to get my inspiration to 20 for cooldown reduction on scepter trait. Running a condition mesmer as I was saying, able to get 1.8k confusing damage with 8 stacks of confusion

sometimes can be confusing for both illusion and phantasm
in the trait under power
got 1 skill that mentioned illusion deal 15% more dmg
not sure does it apply to phantasm as well or not

Lol,

Phantasm / Clones = ILLUSION.

Phantasm is more tougher/stronger than Clones.

rolled a mesmer last night coz unifi spiking. seems interesting, but kinda hard to play?

not so hard if until level 7, you can swap weapon
i used two handed sword for Ranged
and dual wield sword for Melee

ic. from what i read people are saying mesmers have a hard time in pve.

will continue it once my engineer hits 80...

use staff easiest, 1, mob reach u 2, 3, f1 mob dies

lvl80 power precision mesmer reporting in still doing pretty bad in term of bursting in Dungeon and PVE.

The mass stealth thing is hilarious in WvW, ambush dolyak caravan .

ya Mesmer more for constant dmg and team support
not much burst dmg, even the phantasm does more dmg than 3 illusion F1

my female human mesmer level 4 liao.

Rolled a mesmer alt. now at lv21. too bad now attending courses till monday huhu it was pain to play/leveling from lv1-15. then crafted toughness armor and accessories. survivability is quite ok now. and most importantly, mesmer seems to be more fun to play rather than my ranger haha currently running a GS/Sword n focus combo. it is great.

Lvl 80 mesmer now, 20 30 0 10 10. Phantasms are the way to go if you ask me. Just got my Mystic claymore too. PvE isn't bad at all, tho tagging stuff in Orr is a b****. PvP mesmers own faces.

lvl 80

15 25 0 25 5 Mesmer, Staff + 2 Swords / Pistol + Sword , Berserker stack set, takes a while to build up your damage in PvE but when you can get 3 Warlocks up the damage output is crazed.

With a necro / engi in team my warlocks would crit at a minimum of 9k and max of 12k
Best part is being able to make ready supportive skills while your phantasm are doing the damage

Not really a sPvP / WvW build tho

Yeah, playing mesmer now too. Decided to level this first, then the guardian.

Any other tips? This clones/phantasm bits are pretty confusing. I'll get the hang of it eventually.

Mesmer hard meh, hmm my human mesmer level 7 already and I don't really find it hard to play though, and it's quite fun. Higher level I don't know yet, but I guess as long as I don't charge in like I do with my warrior, I should be fine haha.

I have learn all weapons skill for my mesmer except for spear, at the moment using greatsword and sword/pistol.

good thing about berserker phantasm is that you can send them directly behind the gates/walls or let them distract those archers at the top of the wall
just the skill tooltip kinda misleading
they actually hit 3 times per enemy
which makes the stated dmg output in the tooltip was meant for 1 hit

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This post has been edited by Iizsads: Dec 21 2016, 02:02 PM

Just got my mesmer to lv52. Doing great now with GS & Scepter/pistol combo. It seems that I'm better keeping ranged attacks rather that using sword combo. too squishy haha. Swapping weapons like crazy to summon Phantasms. Seems like they're the main dmg dealer luls i just run around kiting the mobs lol and hope not to die

Here's my smexy mesmerizer

Kuda perhatian mode on wahaha

This post has been edited by cressalve: Sep 30 2012, 11:32 PM

what shoulder is that I kinda disappointed with light armor couldn't get nice skin at all!

The one I posted? That's from the Masquerade set.

But I think there's more selection in light armors compared to medium armors And it seems, just because of that, I've ditched my Ranger just to play barbie doll with my mesmer luls

This post has been edited by cressalve: Oct 1 2012, 11:48 PM

my Phantasms don't do dmg wan.

I love the sword wielding capability but the character is as described - "squishy" ......... but I still use the sword anyway, my dual wield sword fighting is still better than running around with scepter + focus.

Phantasm do damage but clone does not. Using mesmer really test my dodging and moving while attacking skill. Currently running on greatsword and scepter/pistol. Haven't use traits yet, too far from trainer lol

have changed my playstyle into greatsword/sword+pistol. Really nice for PvP and WvW. Start the fight using Greatsword and bring up the pistol phantasm(really nice damages and bleeds). Then, if the enemy gets near, ill either push them with greatsword skill5 or use sword skill2(invulnerability while doing dmg).

mesmer got nerf badly on latest patch..... we got hammered by anet...

Signet of Domination can no longer be cast on targets behind the mesmer.
Added a much faster breakout for mesmer underwater mantras.
Phantasmal Warlock: Increased recharge to 20 seconds.
Chaos Armor: Decreased recharge to 35 seconds.
Chaos Storm: Increased recharge to 35 seconds.
Phantasmal Duelist: Increased recharge to 20 seconds.
Phantasmal Swordsman: Increased recharge to 18 seconds.

Haiz... this ANet ar, people complaint2 abit mesmer being OP and all, terus chicken out and nerf >.>

maybe we should think on another way on phantasm,

Phantasmal Warlock: summon from staff every 14.5 sec (after trait effect)
Phantasmal Duelist: summon from pistol every 12 sec (after trait effect)
Phantasmal Swordsman: summon from sword every 12 sec (after trait effect)

it still work tho xD...

maybe they wanted us to use mantras =.=....................

It's not that bad a nerf. In PvE, your phantasm is still not going to recharge before whatever you're trying to kill is dead (unless its a boss). In WvW, the berserker is still the same, and its the best phantasm to use in wuvwuv anyway.

Don't do sPvP so I can't comment.

Mantras, I couldn't figure out how to use the best of em. Not that much of an effect imo (before traited of course). If someone have a good way to utilise the mantras, please do share

Yeah, iberserker is safe from nerf. To a certain extent it's true though, we usually kill the target even before phantasm initiate 2nd atk. But yeah, during boss fight, it's quite important to dish out phantasm fast for their dmg and then shattering them XD

I just analyzed through the runes
the healing mantra can utilize superior runes of centaur (There are some other runes that also utilizing healing as trigger. same thing applied)

the 4th skill of the rune: +20% swiftness duration
the 6th skill of the rune: cast 10secs of swiftness to own and any other ally around you. 10secs cool down.

Apparently after tested it yesterday, casting or discharge the healing mantra also will trigger this effect.
This means an infinite swiftness buff.
Even though the rune skill stated 20% bonus for swiftness, but I can get near 15s of swiftness for ownself, while 10s for others.

Downside is unable to have any other runes as this set already consumed all 6 armor rune slots.

P.S: put the mantra trait skill (Power) to discharge 3 times per cast even nicer. Or the trait skill that allow any mantra casting to heal nearby ally.

Nice find. but with that rune u can only opt as the support healing and running like hell. can be scout also with the near infinite swiftness XD

yup yup
pretty good if really devoted to be pure support

oooo nice! and i thought mesmer kenot run one.

eeeh i got question!

how these 2 work ar?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mantra_of_Recovery
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Power_Return


mesmer take 4¼ seconds to chant mantra of recovery, then can use power return for 2 times before the 10 seconds cool down kicks in oh?

how long does the 2 casts of power return lasts before they expires ooo?
the power return instant one hor no cast time?

during the 4¼ seconds chanting of mantra of recovery, can run around one o?

thanks!!!


the price also not that bad if buy from trading post. i guess.
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24788
Superior Rune of the Centaur
Required Level: 60

(1): +25 Power
(2): +15% Bleed Duration
(3): +50 Power
(4): +20% Swiftness Duration
(5): +90 Power
(6): When you use a healing skill, you and all neaby gain swiftness for 10 seconds. (Cooldown: 10s)
Sell Price: 52s
Supply: 129
Buy Price: 36.4s
Demand: 173



i wonder how these 2 fare o?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_the_Water
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24839
Superior Rune[s] of the Water
Required Level: 60
Double-click to apply to a piece of Armor.
(1): +25 Healing
(2): +15 Boon Duration
(3): +50 Healing
(4): 5% chance to remove a condition when hit. (Cooldown: 30s)
(5): +90 Healing
(6): When you use a healing skill, you and nearby allies are healed for a small amount. (Cooldown: 10s)
Sell Price: 39.99s
Supply: 79
Buy Price: 33.66s
Demand: 137


http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Dwayna
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24768
Superior Rune[s] of Dwayna
Required Level: 60
Double-click to apply to a piece of Armor.
(1): +25 Healing
(2): +20% Regeneration Duration
(3): +50 Healing
(4): 5% chance to gain regeneration for 10 seconds when hit. (Cooldown: 30s)
(5): +90 Healing
(6): When you use a healing skill, you and all neaby allies gain regeneration for 5 seconds. (Cooldown: 10s)
Sell Price: 57.95s
Supply: 182
Buy Price: 43.5s
Demand: 265

eeeeh. so can redeem 42k karma. extract the rune, then sell for silvers?


water rune heal how much oh?
dwayna rune regenerate how much o?

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Nov 7 2012, 03:03 PM

For regen/healing rune u might get better answers from guardian since i think theres almost no mesmers use healing/regen trait.

aaaah but these 2 skills
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mantra_of_Recovery
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Power_Return

will trigger the water and dwyana rune rite?

I am using dwayna currently.
healing wise still guardian or engy healing turret far more superior.
mesmer currently have 2 ways of provide regen as i can think of.
The phantasm regen field and from rune.
Rune need healing skill activation which means not really viable to keep on casting it as we might end up get owned while the healing skill still in CD.

as for the rune of water and flock, i have googled and check on the healing amount. the amount really not significant enough to be put on investment (somewhere 1k @lvl80 without healing stat). in this case I would say dwayna regen is better in some sense.

as for mantra build. I have tested mantra build for quite some time. the recovery mantra really not suitable for WvW that require high survibility. Yes, with proper traits, the mantra can provide better healing amount, but the process is too tedious that can get you killed. Ether feast still the best shot to survive burst attack. PvE wise, mantra is damm good to provide own healing and heal support. (~2.7k hp heal times 3 with 1 time extra heal to ownself + nearby ally upon finish casting the mantra)

ooooo okies thanks for feedback!
eh the 4.5 seconds chanting the mantra can move around one or must be stationary ooo?

yea can move around punya
but interuptable

durrr by pushes, kicks, shoves, knock downs o?
normal attack will not interrupt o?

yea.
paling sien when kena pull or charged knockdown

durrr lots of things can happen in 4.5 seconds hor?

yalo
kena interrupt liaw. no healing to use edy
prepare kena rape saja

I going to tapao my mesmer into a place call "OBLIVION" and go open my new package "THIEF/Guardian/Warrior"

blame anet for the nerf lol
even the mantra cast healing traits useless now
since only can heal 5

iberserker dmg is bug now, obstructed everywhere when summon phantasm, torch skill still suck, blind/invulnerable/block (maybe) will failed to summon phantasm...

maybe I should tapao my mesmer also

Only reason to play mesmer now is one and only portal bombing and if they decide to nerf it into oblivion like for example making it only 5 person per 1 portal.
Mesmer totally lose out their role in WvW other than well i dont know whats my role anymore.Hello Warrior/Thief/Guardian thread

Mesmer so sad now? I wonder if A.Net nerf too generally because of balancing sPvP? Perhaps sPvP needs a different build than the current mesmer if it really is this bad. Well I hope there is still a mesmer come back or something in the future, this job interest me so much that I wanna try out but sad to see the recent posts.

they didnt nerf based on sPVP but more on WvW , because there is a larger community. There are very few hardcore pvpers in GW2.

which was why portal jadi nerf target
because of portal bomb

What does portal do now? I know something changed but didn't read into detail as I was taking a rest from GW2 back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdYewNnBaY

Yay, broken beyond believe <3

This is in the patch or a bug? I heard complains after patch so it's a bug most likely?

Most likely a bug, but I no longer have faith in Anet to fix this.

they will, but "get in line" type fixes. Necro, engi, bla bla. They need to push PLENTY of patches to fix. And by fix I mean they don't make things worse after "fixing". Maybe after half a year your mesmer will be good again. Have faith.