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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:53 PM

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I think on average Bola but if HA pierces then HA. But then how SoT works on proc, that i'm not sure. I don't think SoT proc LOH/LS.

Well, to proc LS, i normally use BL.

I'm kinda confuse atm between which is better, my first impression was that single target Bola Shot is better but then i realize i kill gobs faster with hungering (maybe is due to HA being more accurate).

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:58 PM

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how the heck to survive uber ...
i use back my 104 build ... straight die ... and my eq is fairly decent ...

dont tell me i must go back grenade mode?
poison grenade + chakram shuriken + caltrop torturous

cull of weak + gloom + night stalker + boar?

lol
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Oct 18 2012, 02:58 PM)
how the heck to survive uber ...
i use back my 104 build ... straight die ... and my eq is fairly decent ...

dont tell me i must go back grenade mode?
poison grenade + chakram shuriken + caltrop torturous

cull of weak + gloom + night stalker + boar?

lol
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Which MP? Please be more specific.
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 18 2012, 03:00 PM)
Which MP? Please be more specific.
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MP6

reference http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/booty-6947/Booty/4745893

oh yea and brooding? lol

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post Oct 18 2012, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Oct 18 2012, 03:05 PM)
Ya same here... I think its difficult for range DH to farm in MP7-10 as we lack life sustain. Meelee can do ti easily as they can LoH & LS with 30% reduction in damage. Mob life is so long that at MP9 even white mobs also need to kite...lulzzz
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post Oct 18 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 18 2012, 02:51 PM)
My concern is, which proc higher LOH/LS return?
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Oh i remember now. ALeUNe, if your main concern is LOH/LS then Bola Shot is bad for you because once you fire the first shot on the monsters, before it explodes there is a very very small damage being made to the mobs. For my case the damage is in the region of 3k. Then after 1 sec, it explodes. So if you relying on Loh/LS, sadly, the 3k initial damage is going to proc your LS first.
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post Oct 18 2012, 08:23 PM

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tried mp5 just now, feel very time consuming... it is worth farm at high mp?
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post Oct 18 2012, 10:41 PM

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at this point to get hellfire ring yes...
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post Oct 19 2012, 03:17 AM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Oct 18 2012, 10:41 PM)
at this point to get hellfire ring yes...
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I think the ring is overrated. I can't use mine cuz i do not want to lose IAS and my disc regen. So is in the stash until i get more IAS on other parts.
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post Oct 19 2012, 07:48 AM

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DH still can done well in 105? I feel blur now.I just feel than 105 (mp5) harder than 104 because I tank like boss in 104 but now I feel I become weak oledi, cannot play smooth like 104... Can tank but no like 104, maybe gloom neff 35% and make a big different to me.. I oso feel the life in mp5 more longer than 104, so I kill very slow.. 90k dps oso slow.. No die but Slow slow slow maybe I need to change skill.. Genaredes slow slow slow like turtle and snail...
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post Oct 19 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 19 2012, 07:48 AM)
DH still can done well in 105? I feel blur now.I just feel than 105 (mp5) harder than 104 because I tank like boss in 104 but now I feel I become weak oledi, cannot play smooth like 104... Can tank but no like 104, maybe gloom neff 35% and make a big different to me.. I oso feel the life in mp5 more longer than 104, so I kill very slow.. 90k dps oso slow.. No die but Slow slow slow maybe I need to change skill.. Genaredes slow slow slow like turtle and snail...
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Shin, it is indeed difficult for ranged players, especially for those glass cannon build and build without LS/LOH.
2 general scenarios I noticed.
Firstly, the AI of elites has increased. In co-op game, I saw elites go after ranged players instead of melee heroes.
Secondly, the reflect damage has increased.

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post Oct 19 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 19 2012, 09:09 AM)
Shin, it is indeed difficult for ranged players, especially for those glass cannon build and build without LS/LOH.
2 general scenarios I noticed.
Firstly, the AI of elites has increased. In co-op game, I saw elites go after ranged players instead of melee heroes.
Secondly, the reflect damage has increased.
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100% agree, bro. Any suggestion to my build? Change weopon? 1000dps same stat weopon? Now using 870dps, I think 130 dps no much different.. Or sockect of weopon from 100% cd change to 600 loh gem?? I blur, dunno upgrade what?
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post Oct 19 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 19 2012, 09:09 AM)
Shin, it is indeed difficult for ranged players, especially for those glass cannon build and build without LS/LOH.
2 general scenarios I noticed.
Firstly, the AI of elites has increased. In co-op game, I saw elites go after ranged players instead of melee heroes.
Secondly, the reflect damage has increased.
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On the AI portion,i think it is based on aggro (same as WOW frm bliz)..it will atk the ones with higher dps first
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 19 2012, 09:27 AM)
100% agree, bro. Any suggestion to my build? Change weopon? 1000dps same stat weopon? Now using 870dps, I think 130 dps no much different.. Or sockect of weopon from 100% cd change to 600 loh gem?? I blur, dunno upgrade what?
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Generally, your build is very good enough.
Your build can even do MP10, remember? It just took long long time to kill elites. laugh.gif

I think the point here is to kill fast, which is just not possible if you wanna do high MP, unfortunately.

Speaking of upgrade gears, if you have budget and you find a right gear, I'd say why not?
Increase DPS could certainly help in fast killing in MP5/6 (I think that is the most ideal MP for most players).
I found there is 900+ LOH on amulet now. Try get one if you can to boost up your LOH.


Added on October 19, 2012, 9:43 am
QUOTE(keanoppy @ Oct 19 2012, 09:35 AM)
On the AI portion,i think it is based on aggro (same as WOW frm bliz)..it will atk the ones with higher dps first
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Yes, this could be the case.

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post Oct 19 2012, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 19 2012, 09:09 AM)
Shin, it is indeed difficult for ranged players, especially for those glass cannon build and build without LS/LOH.
2 general scenarios I noticed.
Firstly, the AI of elites has increased. In co-op game, I saw elites go after ranged players instead of melee heroes.
Secondly, the reflect damage has increased.
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Yup... its hard to go glass cannon because no matter if u are in a tanky team, some creeps will come to you.. I already lost 30k dps just to be able to tank decently.. now only left 70k dps... and Damn hard to upgrade with dexterity items being so expensive.
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 19 2012, 09:43 AM)
Generally, your build is very good enough.
Your build can even do MP10, remember? It just took long long time to kill elites.  laugh.gif

I think the point here is to kill fast, which is just not possible if you wanna do high MP, unfortunately.

Speaking of upgrade gears, if you have budget and you find a right gear, I'd say why not?
Increase DPS could certainly help in fast killing in MP5/6 (I think that is the most ideal MP for most players).
I found there is 900+ LOH on amulet now. Try get one if you can to boost up your LOH.


Added on October 19, 2012, 9:43 am
Yes, this could be the case.
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Ok, I try to hunt one. Thanks bro.
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:51 AM

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What MP are you guys playing? If its too hard why not turn it down afew notch?
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:10 AM

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Im doing mp3 for fast farming..mp5 is abit boring..not bcz of dying..but the time to kill mobs lol
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:13 AM

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farm mp1 ok liao =) dropped 1set and 3 legendary last nite play with buddy...
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QUOTE(keanoppy @ Oct 19 2012, 11:10 AM)
Im doing mp3 for fast farming..mp5 is abit boring..not bcz of dying..but the time to kill mobs lol
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Currently 70k dps unbuffed..need to increase to 100k for efficient solo farming

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