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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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SUS2890
post Jan 1 2013, 10:57 PM

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wKkay, share more la. I never felt vengeance + NS is a good sync but today after seeing u flip so much and yet maintain your DISC pool, i'm impressed.

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post Jan 1 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 1 2013, 11:02 PM)
Ooo..rd+health link is a pain? no wonder sometimes my barb dies on RD while I'm hota-ing....

wkkay play cheat one... copy my BL+strafe combo!!! but its ok la... pls add me one star in lyn.. xie xie biggrin.gif
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U have 7 stars. U want more? Haha..

Anyway yeah, health link and rd sucks for LS builds which means almost everyone.
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post Jan 2 2013, 01:18 AM

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OMG. shenlongs + chantodo just drop from same mob! i almost woke up the entire house
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post Jan 2 2013, 02:06 AM

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^ 4mil? a steal i would say.

Anyway, how much EHP do you guys think is enough for a DH?
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post Jan 2 2013, 11:31 AM

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Sien, got outbidded on this gem
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post Jan 2 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 2 2013, 11:38 AM)
U already have good pants why wan another one... biggrin.gif
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cuz the rare pants is just better. XD
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post Jan 2 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(cktan76 @ Jan 2 2013, 03:46 PM)
Hi semi noob DH here. I usually farm mp4 with some friends. So far have managed to survive by moving around a lot. However I would like to contribute more to dps to help reduce the farm time for keys and ubers. Would really appreciate some advise for my DH. I only have 100mil budget so am quite nervous I might end up getting the wrong stuffs. Really appreciate your comments and or critism smile.gif

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Hi,

First let me welcome you to the Brotherhood of Shadows.

Well, if i'm playing your char. I'll get 2P Natalya Solace set to get the 7.0cc. That's gonna increase your DPS and EHP by quite a bit.

Solace combination
- IMO, the best combination here would be Bloody Footprints + Embrace
- For Natalya Boots, get one with DEX and VIT if possible
- For Embrace, you have two option but make sure you sync it with your DML:
i) If you decide to get +DISC on your DML, you also get +DISC on your embrace
ii) If you went with double roll on DEX and VIT on your DML, you get +AR on your embrace

p.s: I wrote that some weeks ago and now i don't feel the same about the +DISC on DML and Embrace anymore. While i think we should aim for +DISC on Embrace, i'm not so sure about the +DISC on DML. I'm testing a mix of +DISC on embrace and double roll on DML. My runs gave me the feel that while double roll DML with +DISC embrace is good for me on MP7/8 farming. The +DISC DML is better for MP10. Let me do more testing and i'll get back to you with better results. But for now, try to get a 2P Solace set. Will do you wonders.

Quiver - DML or Danetta as offhand
- Determine whether you want to use HA or Bola and find a quiver with HA or Bola bonus. Cluster arrow reduction is also very sexy.
- Always try to get 20% AS on the quiver but if you are planning to do low MP farming, an 18% AS with bonus to elemental arrow is good enough.
- Get a quiver with +DISC or double roll on DEX and VIT.

p.s: again, i'm still undecided on the DML. Let me know how u feel about it.

Pants / Belts / Bracers
- Basically, there are a few choices here. Depth diggers/Rare pants + The Witching Hour + Lacuni combination, inna's temperance + Inna's favor + Rare Bracers combination.
- What you wear here is determined by your weapon (calamity or manticore)
i) If you chooses to use calamity, the +% elemental bonus and dex bonus from inna's set would benefit you more. So get inna's temperance and inna's favor if you go for calamity since AS is not a problem here.
ii) If you choose to use manticore, a pants with as much DEX, VIT, AR and 2OS is preferred (DD is not BIS). Here, you get Lacuni and TWH belt (for more AS).

p.s: Some rares roll extremely high DEX, VIT, AR and 2OS
p.s.s: The DD + WH + Lacuni combination is much more expensive than the later.

Rings / Amulets
- Since i'm a manticore user, i always go for the following combination on rings if possible and if my EHP allows me.
+ xx-xx dmg
+ DEX
+ 8/9% AS
+ <4.5CC

Bonuses like AR on rings and amulets are welcome. If you like set/legendary items, the wailing host is a good ring (my personal favorite)

p.s: Average damage works the best on calamity users. I no longer go for average damage.

Gloves
- Get trifecta gloves if possible but is gonna cost. If you can't afford it get one with either the following two combination AS, CC and CHD. I think this is determined by what weapon you use again.

Shoulders
- Current BIS is Vile Ward.

Helms
- Current BIS is Mempo of Twilight


Added on January 2, 2013, 4:13 pmoh to add on, 100m you should be able to get a nice embrace and bloody footprints

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post Jan 2 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 2 2013, 04:49 PM)
2890 sums it all up. Really, to get a DH to 100k dps these days is not expensive given that you know what is essential to upgrade. Just do it one at a time, don't spend too much on small upgrades, use  http://d3up.com/ to check if the what you're buying is worth it. Don't sacrifice resist or HP for DPS.

@2890 Btw, what a lovely pants.... How much was it going for? Finally someone bidding my dual manti's. Some money coming in. Really need my Mempo with crit!!!!
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it was at 28mil for the last minute. 5 seconds before the bid end, i place 70mil and got outbidded at 73.5m. Sien..
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post Jan 2 2013, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 2 2013, 04:56 PM)
By 3.5 million? I don't know.. seriously. Normally if you get outbidded, it'd be in round numbers like 75m or 80m. I believe this are AH bots in the works. I've got oubidded way too many times by small numbers like 1.5m or 2m more... It's just unbelievable.
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i agree. No way a human can react that quickly cuz i did not just press bid, i entered 70m and heard the winning bid sound. Within 1 sec, i lost the bid and item expire. Damn no mood that time.

When the item expire, my bid was 70m and the next column says 73.5m. So i'm guessing i lost out to 73.5m.

oh btw, don't force a mempo if u can't get one with 9AS. Might as well get an anDi

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post Jan 2 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 2 2013, 05:05 PM)
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If somebody placed a bid of 100m at time of 25.5mil, it will become 25.5+10% = 28.05mil
and @2890 place a 70mil bid < 100mil hence it will become 70+10% = 73.5mil.
So the actual bid on the winner is definitely more than 73.5mil.

Good job @2890 to make the winner spent 73.5mil instead of 28mil thumbup.gif


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cannot be, because i heard the sound when you are winning the bid. You know that TING sound?

oh, i do that many times. I even drove a bola shot DML from 30m to 150m and let it go. If i'm not getting it, i'll make sure you won't get it cheap either.
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post Jan 2 2013, 10:05 PM

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Pretty much can't farm until i get this sorted out. Sien mannnnn
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post Jan 2 2013, 11:57 PM

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Gloves FTW. Trifecta ammys are overrated.
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 3 2013, 12:04 AM)
Yeah I was thinking gloves but it's going to cost for above 200 dex ones.

Dex : 221
Vit : 39
IAS : 8
Armor : +210
CD : 32
CC : 8.5

A WHOPPING 130M
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for gloves?

well, u can lower the DEX and remove the VIT. C'mon 39 vit or 0 vit pretty much means the same. The armor roll is nice. TBH, 130m is cheap for such roll. My glove is 315 and it has lower dex and similar CC and CHD.
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 3 2013, 12:11 AM)
I know but I'm losing 104 vit from the gloves I have.. I think I have a Nat Embrace with 120 vit + Armor. Have to check and see if I still have it. Yeah, I think 32 vit is a bit too much to pay. Got another one which looks pretty good but no armor for 90M. What do you think :

Dex 228
Ias 9
CD 32
CC 8
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Is pretty much the same to me cuz one has 8AS and 8.5CC and the other has 9AS and 8CC. I think you should take the later cuz u are overloaded on CC. Besides, paying 40mil for 32 vit and armor? meh, i'll pass. If is 32 AR, sure!

oh btw, hostile function is rumored to be coming out on patch 107.


Added on January 3, 2013, 12:19 amoh btw, if you are going to buy smth, buy smth that would have resell value when you chose to upgrade it again or you'll just be losing lots of gold.



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post Jan 3 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 3 2013, 12:21 AM)
Really? Do you have an official post on it? Yeah, I'm not digging the armor as I can easily gain  from other gears and just those 2 stats cost 40M. Steep. I'll pass on amulet, it's stupidly overpriced. I'm going to miss my gloves. It's the best rare Item I've ever rolled and I've been using it for so long. I know I can get a bit out of it since there's nothing so far that compares to the stats I have but It's been a loyal friend to me for a long time  sad.gif
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nope no official post but a friend of mine on D3 (1400 hours DH) told me so it can't be that off. Will update the PVP thread on here when i get more info.

Yeah, so if you buy the new glove and sell your old one, you are actually not paying so much for an upgrade. A lot players just keep wondering how do u get the gold for upgrades. Well, i think this answers it.

oh btw, gears with tons of DEX barely loses it value.
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:36 AM

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Is easy to stack DPS for a DH but hard to stack EHP.

Eh, they say 450 AR is the sweet spot. No ka? What gears are you wearing actually? I see embrace instead of inna's chest.

130 dex bonus? aren't u trying to replace your pants? or are you trying to get the bonus from NAT set?

why don't you post a picture of your set up? we could help maybe.

p.s: if u replace your pants and sell ur lacuni, how are u going to maintain 24% MS?
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post Jan 3 2013, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 3 2013, 12:52 AM)
i would say embrace or the boots. The left ring, you can get a trifecta ring with DEX roll but minus the average damage for cheap i believe. And beside u have 540k EHP, that's low meh? honestly, i have no idea how much EHP is nice cuz i've seen some players here having like 900k EHP. XD

i think you have the right gears and ideas in place, now is just getting gold to make an upgrade. Once you get to 200k unbuffed DPS, u sort of hit a brick wall with upgrades.
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post Jan 3 2013, 02:27 AM

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To be honest, i keep bashing barbs cuz of their OP skills but imo the best skill in diablo 3 is GLOOM. Man, it makes you a GOD man.

My monk friend with 840k EHP have problems on MP8. I have 700k EHP and with gloom, no problem. So, let's hope they buff shadow power even more cuz let's face it, the other runs are rather pathetic.
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post Jan 3 2013, 02:50 AM

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Let me know how much did it go. I'm curious as well.
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post Jan 3 2013, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 3 2013, 03:17 AM)
Sold at 155M bidding. I didn't expect it to go so high really. Was thinking maybe it would be hard to sell. Not very high DPS because personally, I wouldn't get a LS mantis. While I was farming I rolled this ring

34 min dmg
152 dex
CC 5.0
CD 26
LoH 81

Now, time to get that 90M trifecta gloves.
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dude, wait.. is anyone bidding on that glove? if not, wait for the price to drop. =D

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