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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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SUS2890
post Jan 10 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 10 2013, 02:56 PM)
oh and for tank dh i like the idea of using grenades+cluster arrow combo with grenadier passive as shown by moba doing ghom solo.. that -10 hatred is cool man.. if have additional -5(or more) on gears lagi sick..
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tried it, is very hard cuz echo blast life leech is better than CA. if CA dont crit, u're screwed man. I tried -20 hatred cost and u need to balance AS and DEF.
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 10 2013, 02:51 PM)
just curious, any specific reason why knockback is needed on ubers?

i think vault is optional on ubers, i would prefer use offensive skill slot such as caltrops: bait the trap since most of the time we're just stand there and deal damage.

and M4D is required imho.. one person using it is enough though since cant stack.

my preferred skill for ubers (non-tank):
- bola (imminent doom)
- echoing blast
- preparation
- gloom
- caltrops: bait the trap
- m4d: mortal enemy
(optional switch)
- sentry: spitfire turret/guardian turret
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you probably need a calamity/WF user using thunderball or that tanking DH is gonna have a hard time. Yeah vault is optional and i think 1 person use it is enough. That person is to rez la.


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post Jan 10 2013, 03:19 PM

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Anyway, I've been soloing mp10 with my DH since the last few days so that I don't play like a barb or monk.

Furthermore, my DH manages to kill 2 packs of elites together for the 1st time without dying at Act 2 kw map today morning and manage to get its key (with 5nv) before I travel to work.

My DH skill setup by the courtesy of blizz. Perhaps, I don't need vault -tumble for ubers though.

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:19 PM)
Anyway, I've been soloing mp10 with my DH since the last few days so that I don't play like a barb or monk.

Furthermore, my DH manages to kill 2 packs of elites together for the 1st time without dying at Act2 kw map today morning before I travel to work.

My DH skill setup by the courtesy of blizz. Perhaps, I don't need vault -tumble for ubers.
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how long u take to down a pack of elites on mp10?

my skill for mp10 http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:32 PM)
how long u take to down a pack of elites on mp10?

my skill for mp10 http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351
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...actually, minimum 45 secs for standstill elites and maximum 2 mins for the kiting elites with a yellow champion (extra health).

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:37 PM

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ok hear me out

Tank DH 1
Grenade -Cluster bomb
With this skill u can crit almost every time
so it great tank ghom cause u need perma gloom to counter his fart
Spike trap-echoing Blast
this one is a must cause it also do more dmg but also proc some CC
Sentry -Guardian
every Dh know this ...so expalination needed

Tank DH 2
Grenade-Stun Grenade
With this skill u crit less so it is good for tankin SB as it does not have other side atk
just stun it and only spam gloom if ur life below half.
just make sure u have full HP just in case SB grab you..and spam SS..it prevent from u getting dmg
Spike trap-echoing blast
It same as Tank DH1..For more dmg done to SB
Sentry -Guardian
Offer protection and taken less reflect dmg from SB..

DSPer DH1
Bola shot -Thunder ball
Yup this one can stun just like stun grenade and it meant for single mobs
Mark for death-Mortal enemy
this one can help ur hatred regen so u can execute more powerful atk
this also help the tanker do more dmg

Dsper DH2
Bola shot- thunder ball
Why i choose thunder again for DSPer 2 ...why not Imminent DOOM...
because wat happen if mobs kill ur stun user and u use imminent doom
and other tanker is using Cluster bomb...who will revive the stuner?
If u use thunder ball the cluster bomb user will have change to revive the stuner
remember it;s all about team work ...not who do the most dmg.. wink.gif

other passive skill and active is depend on ur reference..
just a suggestion only ...lol



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post Jan 10 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:35 PM)
...actually, minimum 45 secs for standstill elites and maximum 2 mins for the kiting elites with a yellow champion (extra health).
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2 mins? that's fast. i take like forever to kill when i kite. how can u kill that fast?
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:38 PM)
2 mins? that's fast. i take like forever to kill when i kite. how can u kill that fast?
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Secret is no kiting involved, need to make a video of it however my DH has 735 ar, ~4500 armor & 62k hp helps a lot ...I guess.

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:38 PM)
2 mins? that's fast. i take like forever to kill when i kite. how can u kill that fast?
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try use grenade...higher mp is useless to use travel projectiles
the mobs will always stay close and whack u

these few day i also farm mp10 with my dh..
stun grenade -
and gloom spam
senrty
echoing blast

stuned mobs ..just plant echoing blast under them
and build sentry while u at it

weapon -use windforce(prefer low knockback and high dmg with OS)
or calamity( high dmg with OS)
manti is crap for tanker... sweat.gif they proc CC less and slow...

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:40 PM)
Secret is no kiting involved, need to make a video of it.
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u just said u take 2 mins to kill for those that kite?

i take ages to kill those that moves around.
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:40 PM)
try use grenade...higher mp is useless to use travel projectiles
the mobs will always stay close and whack u
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no, i'm having problems with those that moves around. the ones that come to me, i'm happy. can kill very fast.
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:40 PM)
Secret is no kiting involved, need to make a video of it however my DH has 735 ar, ~4500 armor & 62k hp helps a lot ...I guess.
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Many melee heroes don't even have similar stats.
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:43 PM)
u just said u take 2 mins to kill for those that kite?

i take ages to kill those that moves around.
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Ya, usually there will be 1 or 2 members of the kiting elite pack that doesn't kite around so shoot those first, ...the ones that kite will come back. I don't chase them except the last one by the way I've 25 ms probably the extra 1 ms is key.

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post Jan 10 2013, 03:47 PM

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meh, that's not the problem. I have 4k armor, 625 AR without perfectionist and 61k HP. Don't really die except you meet vortex b****es. sucks u here and there. my problem is it takes too long. any way to speed it up?
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:46 PM)
Ya, usually there will be 1 or 2 members of the kiting elite pack that doesn't kite around so shoot those first, ...the ones that kite will come back. I don't chase them except the last one.
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you use boar and perfectionist? or 735 AR is ur unbuff AR?
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:49 PM

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normally i ignore those elite that run around and don even bother to chase them...
but those with illusion ...those are my fav now...the more enermy the better for cc proc and more disp regen...
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:48 PM)
you use boar and perfectionist? or 735 AR is ur unbuff AR?
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735 ar is unbuff excluding boar and perfectionist.
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:50 PM)
735 ar is unbuff excluding boar and perfectionist.
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are u serious? lol.. ok i wanna see ur gears..
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 10 2013, 03:47 PM)
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meh, that's not the problem. I have 4k armor, 625 AR without perfectionist and 61k HP. Don't really die except you meet vortex b****es. sucks u here and there. my problem is it takes too long. any way to speed it up?
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Do you use vault -tumble?
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 10 2013, 03:53 PM)
Do you use vault -tumble?
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yes..

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