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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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sangtupperware
post Dec 18 2012, 04:32 PM

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hi guys....just a simple question..

i now have around 2.01 attack speed only ...since i change my cloth to natalya..

if i were to use a manticore....what would be the new attack speed for my char?...

i afraid it will be too slow 4 my liking..

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post Dec 18 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 18 2012, 04:32 PM)
hi guys....just a simple question..

i now have around 2.01 attack speed only ...since i change my cloth to natalya..

if i were to use a manticore....what would be the new attack speed for my char?...

i afraid it will be too slow 4 my liking..
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bow is 1.4, manti is 1.22, so on paper you loses about 0.18.

WAFAK your bow are like mine, most likely his big brother tongue.gif
lksing78
post Dec 18 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 18 2012, 04:30 PM)
manti too slow huh?
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yup...slow to refill my HP and disp pool laugh.gif
with windforce ..i just spam perma gloom...
without worryin out of disp..

btw windforce have LS on them cool2.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 18 2012, 04:35 PM)
bow is 1.4, manti is 1.22, so on paper you loses about 0.18.

WAFAK your bow are like mine, most likely his big brother tongue.gif
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i also have a hard time just to let go of it....im thinking of changing to windforce...but heck u'll never find a sock+LS+CD on it....

haish back on those days ...on 1.03 patch..usually that time u can see alot of bow that is 1.2K DPS (on the smaller writing) above...

i need that kind of bow again.. doh.gif doh.gif

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SUS2890
post Dec 18 2012, 04:41 PM

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The best way to refill DISC and HP is through Spike Trap: Echoing Blast. Or Cluster Arrows if you have the reduction cost rolls on your gears.

but i think Traps still much much better.

275% weapon damage * 3 * 3 = IMBA.
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post Dec 18 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 18 2012, 04:41 PM)
The best way to refill DISC and HP is through Spike Trap: Echoing Blast. Or Cluster Arrows if you have the reduction cost rolls on your gears.

but i think Traps still much much better.

275% weapon damage * 3 * 3 = IMBA.
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especially on ghom/sb/azmo those fat guy..

btw why do you think 1h bow + quilver suck? calamity + dml alone could've give u 20cc boost if you're using archery
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post Dec 18 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Dec 18 2012, 04:47 PM)
especially on ghom/sb/azmo those fat guy..

btw why do you think 1h bow + quilver suck? calamity + dml alone could've give u 20cc boost if you're using archery
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cuz it has the lowest DPS range of the three combinations. That 20 cc boost is like paper DPS. Is like having 1k DPS manticore with 2 OS and a 1.2k DPS with 1 OS. I think the later is better cuz u're boosting REAL damage.

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post Dec 18 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 18 2012, 04:49 PM)
cuz it has the lowest DPS range of the three combinations. That 20 cc boost is like paper DPS. Is like having 1k DPS manticore with 2 OS and a 1.2k DPS with 1 OS. I think the later is better cuz u're boosting REAL damage.
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Yet another hit it fast vs hit it hard comparison.
I personally prefer hit-it-hard (my monk is the type).
Eh, now my Dh is the hit-it-fast type hmm.gif

laugh.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:02 PM

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here what i have when i date ghom last night

for stater i have
bola shot-bitter pliis
charkram- boomerang (230% weapon dmg ...wohohoho)
spike trap-ecohin blast
preparation-backup plan
gloom
sentry -guardian

passive
archery
night stalker
perfectionist

for main course ,

by using windforce i can just stand there like any other char barb or monk
plant sentry ,shot bola and once awhile put traps
gloom every est. 4.8 sec(5 sec to finnish)...and don stop gloom...use preparation if disp pool really low for safety..
once sentry cd ...build another one..don waste time...and continue plant traps...

trap takes time to activate wat i do i use charkram-boomerang
gloom then i shot charkram...and my hp up again...

PS i only have 3++ ar and 12++ vita while doin this
17+kdps on windforce..
est time to kill blow 5 min..
but no video to proof... cry.gif

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post Dec 18 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 18 2012, 04:41 PM)
The best way to refill DISC and HP is through Spike Trap: Echoing Blast. Or Cluster Arrows if you have the reduction cost rolls on your gears.

but i think Traps still much much better.

275% weapon damage * 3 * 3 = IMBA.
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I thought you mentioned that you prefer CA:LfB due to its instantaneous casting time? laugh.gif

Anyway for those who have issues with insufficient disc, try Bitter Pill, Night Stalker, RoV: Dark Cloud. Should be good enough to chain gloom (not permanent, but with some slack in-between which is fine if you lay traps before gloom's expired).

With only 30 disc pool, I never had issues with disc without even using preparation.
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Dec 18 2012, 05:15 PM)
I thought you mentioned that you prefer CA:LfB due to its instantaneous casting time? laugh.gif

Anyway for those who have issues with insufficient disc, try Bitter Pill, Night Stalker, RoV: Dark Cloud. Should be good enough to chain gloom (not permanent, but with some slack in-between which is fine if you lay traps before gloom's expired).

With only 30 disc pool, I never had issues with disc without even using preparation.
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Yeah i still prefer LfB but until i can afford a DML with -5 cluster arrow cost and SoJ, got no choice really to stick with Echoing Blast.

Besides, Echoing Blast syncs well with NS. LfB too but again, i need the gears for it.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 18 2012, 05:17 PM)
Yeah i still prefer LfB but until i can afford a DML with -5 cluster arrow cost and SoJ, got no choice really to stick with Echoing Blast.

Besides, Echoing Blast syncs well with NS. LfB too but again, i need the gears for it.
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+1 on bolded statement. I think there's some other skills that's nice with NS, just that we hardly come by and use it. Just recently I found out Dark Cloud procs NS really frequently when I was experimenting around max single-target DPS skill build.

Talking about DML, I've waited for ages ever since the last time I missed a similar stats DML as compared with my current ones, except for the skill bonus (Bola Shot instead of Elemental Arrow). doh.gif

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post Dec 18 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Dec 18 2012, 05:18 PM)
+1 on bolded statement. I think there's some other skills that's nice with NS, just that we hardly come by and use it. Just recently I found out Dark Cloud procs NS really frequently when I was experimenting around max single-target DPS skill build.

Talking about DML, I've waited for ages ever since the last time I missed a similar stats DML as compared with my current ones, except for the skill bonus (Bola Shot instead of Elemental Arrow). doh.gif
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Yeah 20AS, 10CC and 10 DISC with Bola or Cluster is what i want. Susah la.

oh one more thing, anyone can explain to me what's the difference between Anathema and Beastly Bombs?

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 18 2012, 05:24 PM)
Yeah 20AS, 10CC and 10 DISC with Bola or Cluster is what i want. Susah la.

oh one more thing, anyone can explain to me what's the difference between Anathema and Beastly Bombs?
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My target's 20AS 10CC 10LIFE with Bola (since I swap builds and only use EA for farming).

But really, it's like finding gems in the sea doh.gif

Both looks similar to me, but Anathema seems to be shooting in more constant areas. Not really sure as I only ever used Flying Strike, Stampede and Dark Cloud (recently)
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Dec 18 2012, 05:35 PM)
My target's 20AS 10CC 10LIFE with Bola (since I swap builds and only use EA for farming).

But really, it's like finding gems in the sea doh.gif

Both looks similar to me, but Anathema seems to be shooting in more constant areas. Not really sure as I only ever used Flying Strike, Stampede and Dark Cloud (recently)
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Yeah I used to use dark cloud too for low mp farms but ditch it for LfB. Instant kill is fun.

So ur understanding is BB is scattered as anathema is focus? Hmm.. I have no clue


Added on December 20, 2012, 7:09 pmNext Patch

DML - Poison skills deals 15% more damage

Passives:

Archery: give AS please.
Steady Aim: Needs some love. Is practically useless.
Sharpshooter: Mannnn.. How do we even fix it?

Actives:
Cluster Arrows: Pls, 50 hatred is TOO MUCH. I say 40 would be great (tho i wish we will get 30 but that's too much).
LfB needs a rework. HOTA is kicking it's ass.

Any ideas from you guys as well??

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lksing78
post Dec 21 2012, 11:27 AM

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so quiet in here...

I think the goin to buff grenade skill...they said it last time after they buff bola shot.

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post Dec 21 2012, 12:24 PM

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My DH the grenade thrower has risen from the dead again and has attained an almost ~249K dps; ...will make a vid of Ghom mp10 kill tonight at least try to beat the best time set by monk.

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post Dec 21 2012, 02:05 PM

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Archery: give additional 10% attk speed if dual wield 1h
Steady Aim: 10% chance to crit for 1000% cd
Sharpshooter: 6% cc gained every second


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post Dec 21 2012, 02:07 PM

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Wow..

@Wlcling

Your archery buff to DW is insane!

but the steady aim, kinda cool!


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post Dec 21 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 21 2012, 02:07 PM)
Wow..

@Wlcling

Your archery buff to DW is insane!

but the steady aim, kinda cool!
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dw need some loving bcos everyone using dml

if u notice rpg series... archer normally got chance to crit for insane dmg ma.. duno why dh didn't get the same kind of love

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