I wonder why we got so many dumb supporters who keep posting dumb threads to invite flaming. Like the ones who posted in /k/ . Can we just let the BLOODY early season go through smoothly. Bad enough we didn't start well, dumb ass supporters score own goals so we can be butt of jokes.

Fellaini that ass he played well in the 4-4 score last season that cost the title too. Grrr, excellent in air, good under pressure good with feet. Damn u Fellaini.

Actually the game wasnt so bad but we lack a really good enforcer like keane. Thats why pundits are asking why we didn't but the energetic enforcer like busquets, bastien, etc.

If we have 1 he can help us win the ball back when we've lost it and protect the back 4. We have no one currently who can properly protect the back 4 except fletcher and he isn't anywhere near world class.

I want a nice midfielder,

-Daniele De Rossi
-Moutinho
-Javi Martinez
-Bastian Schweinsteiger

or even Cheick Tioté.

Arghhhhhhhhh

FM i put messi, ronaldo, xavi, inesta and Fellaini!

Its not that carrick cant pass but he's 1 dimensional. Short passes, safe passes, no creativity no through balls like giggs or scholes he comes up short when compared to the likes of xabi alonso/martinez/bastien/moutinho. And we're not even going to the players like xavi and inesta who have high pass completion and the creative ability for through passes, goals and runs into the box. Either way defensively or offensively he's square.

If you complain that he cant pass well that's an unfair comment but remember even in the english squad he doesnt get a chance. From our heydays of keane, scholes, giggs, beckham, carrick represents a drop in quality. I would say even Veron is far more talented but inconsistent.

This post has been edited by Tak3shi: Aug 28 2012, 07:23 PM

Carrick isnt doing it well, if he did anywhere near the level of keane we wouldnt be leaking like a tap. Last ditch tackles when the def's go missing, well carrick's missing too. I think scott parker is great he does the simple passes and he defends with his heart. U know carrick is not world class, he has never been a defensive midfielder. He's a central midfielder so for a central midfielder he needs to be more creative but he isn't, so he got converted to a more defensive role and for all the slack fletcher's been given he's far better than carrick is. Even though fletcher isn't even 1/2 as good as keane. Among all the midfielders who joined around carrick's time, Hargreaves would have been the best DM replacement. It's such a shame really that he had to have so many injuries with a proper hargreaves we wouldn't be having this issue now. And you look at the current situation with the EPL being so competitive you're defending carrick like berba who has been just not good enough to wear the united shirt. Carrick is decent but i would rate him with an o'shea role at best, we need a better player playing regularly and he can rotate.

I'm however impressed with cleverly, I really hopes he develop further into the star potential he can be. That said we're still lacking an anchorman all of the ones who developed recently, fletcher/hargreaves have had problems with injuries. U want pound for pound players that can compete with your rivals, busquets, Khedira, bastien, yaya toure, moutinho.

Btw moutinho can play both attacking/defensive midfielder in the same mould as keane. And yes portugese league just like how hazard and kagawa were playing in german and french leagues respectively and are now terrorizing defences in the epl. Not to forget how ronaldo came from sporting lisbon before joining us and becoming a superstar.

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Added on August 29, 2012, 3:24 amU cant read your own statistics? It's as square as your opinions are. Compare carrick vs yaya, compare carrick vs scott (defensively scott is better, but carrick edges out in possession a little more assist) In attacking Song beats him, so he's neither here nor there, above average and good some areas but not strong/excellent like yaya and not stronger offensively like song or stronger defensively like parker. Also possesion won in def 3rd especially is far more important than a stat like 50-50's, it's robbing the opponents of a goal scoring ability. If you dont risk balls for assist of course you will have a high possession rate, passing sideways and to defenders.

Read your own chart damnit. Stats are there and u're blindly defending. It's not a carrick bashing it's facts, you would want a yaya toure in the team because he adds that much more dimension like how we should be having among the best midfielders in their role to compete not only in england but in the cpl. If you set your standards low you might as well sign azman adnan, wth.

This post has been edited by Tak3shi: Aug 29 2012, 03:26 AM

We certainly need someone with scholes passing range to dictate, our wings have lost the ability to carry the ball when they reduce space in the box. Rooney usually does the taps and run ins. Persie's ability for 1 touch football and scoring is excellent and no one comes close that gives us options with our long ball.

Defense woes will sort out eventually I'm more worried about getting outplayed in midfield and run over by southampton! Without scholes midfield was dominated, due to losing possesion, not creating chances and no one to win the ball back.

Kagawa make runs in the middle, he doesn't have a huge passing range so I don't think he can replace scholes unless something changes. He's the type of player you play 1-2's into the box.

This post has been edited by Tak3shi: Sep 3 2012, 11:17 AM