QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Aug 31 2012, 02:04 PM)
Ugh Dudek did not have his distribution ability. I put down Reina's inconsistency due to the constant change of managers.English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!
English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!
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Aug 31 2012, 02:29 PM
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Aug 31 2012, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Aug 31 2012, 03:04 PM) I'm worried because we are not banging in goals comfortably like we should. We are frustrating ourselves on most occasions. For most managers, it's very rare to get it right in the first transfer window. It took Rafa 4 seasons to sign his one and only prolific striker. But i still think we'll sign another player today so fingers crossed.During Owen's time, goals came comfortably. During Torres's time as well. Plus the goal post curse is still around. We need a lucky fella coming in to put an end to the goal post curse. |
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Aug 31 2012, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 31 2012, 03:41 PM) Its only a loan move, it comes down to whether Chelsea can get Schurrle. I watched the match again today and from what i saw, it's mostly down to us lacking one playmaker. Under Rafa we had good balance. Xabi was a deep playmaker and Gerrard was the advance playmaker. The likes of Benayoun and Garcia were also advance playmakers. Torres just had to concentrate on scoring goals. Added on August 31, 2012, 4:01 pm I do not fancy this Dempsey move simply because of Fulham's asking price, they would have to halve the price for it to be considered a reasonable deal. I still have my doubts for Dempsey, he scored lots of goals but many other sub-par players do when they play for smaller teams where they are the focal point of the attack, simply put it "big fish in a small pond". Also looking at how we were playing last night, were we even creating enough clear cut chances for our strikers? Most of them were half chances at best. Suarez often has to try doing something on his own, nutmegging past players and when he gets close enough to the goal he is surrounded by 2-3 defenders with the ball rolling away from him as the GK closes down on him. So far we've only seen Sterling who is capable of doing those mazy dribbling runs pulling defenders onto him. If Suarez is the focal point of our attack and we depend on him to score our goals, shouldn't it be the midfielders or winger/forwards to do those dribbling runs to free up space or those defense splitting through or lob passes for our goalscorers to have a better chance of scoring ala 1 on 1 opportunities. Wasn't that how Owen and Torres scored their goals? By sitting on the shoulders of defenders waiting for a clever pass looking to break free of the offside trap at any moment which their pace will then set them on to score a 1v1 chance against the GK. We've not reach that kind of balance - at least not yet. Both Allen and Jonjo can pass then ball, but they're no playmakers. They look more like all rounder midfielders. The lack of a true playmaker in the middle means Gerrard has to come deep to see the ball. This obviously opens the gap between him and Suarez. If Gerrard comes deep, Suarez has to drop slightly deep and become the advance playmaker. The result is a big giant mess of erratic movement and inconsistent build up. The key lies in Sahin i reckon. Or any other person taking up that playmaker role in the middle. If Sahin can be the long sought replacement for Xabi, it will go a long way improving our build up and goal scoring chance. |
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Aug 31 2012, 06:23 PM
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Damiao is class. He was amazing and became a club legend for my fm12 liverpool save . haha
I would be over the moon if we get him but we won't. |
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Aug 31 2012, 06:32 PM
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So Adam off to Stoke which means it has to straight up cash deal for Dempsey. Wonder how much we'll end up paying for him.
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Aug 31 2012, 11:53 PM
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It's a done deal.
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Sep 1 2012, 12:40 PM
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Wow i really did expect us to sign at least one player. Seem so bizarre to let go a lot of players at the last minute and not sign anyone else. And it's klinda annoying having to lose another target to Spurs, especially when the player himself was initially desperate to come to us. I hope the club knows what they're doing, we haven't got much options upfront.
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Sep 1 2012, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 1 2012, 01:44 PM) Technically speaking, we are not doomed. As my friend says, the ball is round and 11 men may just do wonders when least expected. LOL. Nah i agree. Truth is we did pretty well this window. We've managed to get Sahin, Allen, Assaidi and Yesil. On top of that, we extended Suarez and Skrtel contracts, and did well to rebuff City's approach for Agger. Pity we couldnt end the window with a bang but Rodger should be happy having gotten decent amount of players in.Ok. Don't kill me. Just trying to cheer everyone up. |
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Sep 1 2012, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(rickk @ Sep 1 2012, 02:07 PM) *out of topic Pretty sure they are but i could be wrong.Sahin a Turkish, Yesil Turkey born German and Assaidi a Moroccan. Are they all Muslim? no offense, just wonder. =) QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 1 2012, 02:12 PM) I agree. Good midfielders are essential for passing play to work. Maybe BR is focusing on midfield department first then maybe forwards next summer. Rafa too did not build his team in 1 transfer window. Yep. If we can finish in top 4, Brendan can use the bulk of the transfer fund to sign a top top striker. Think about how we panic into signing Carroll. So not signing any more players may actually be a blessing in disguise but obviously things will be a lot harder for us now. |
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Sep 1 2012, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 1 2012, 06:02 PM) now that is just bitter. did we really do that? or its the media? sheeesh. oklah. no problem. no dempsey tak mati one... blessing in disguise probably. It was FSG. They had their media back in the US releasing statements like Dempsey would be joining the team in the US tour. And Tom Werner kept mentioning him during interviews. |
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Sep 2 2012, 11:53 AM
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I think for most people, it's not missing out on Dempsey that is most concerning. It's the fact that we haven't got a number 9 in the team. When have we not ever have a no 9 ? But Carroll only managed to score 4 goals last season, so one could argue we're not missing that much.
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Sep 2 2012, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 2 2012, 12:02 PM) i thought players are more expensive in january transfer window? It usually is. But we'll be saving tons of wages from loaning out players and the money, on top of the 4mil or so that we refused to spend on Dempsey, should be there if BR is desperate for a striker by then.anyway imo, why should we NOT spend a little bit extra if it helps our cause? i dont think there is any benefit in us doing that. in saving our face, we effectively lose out on a player that could be our problem solver. if its me, even though i dont like it, i'll pay for dempsey. extra 1-2m? its not extra 10-20m for God's sake. what goes around comes around. we dont need to be sooooo calculative with such small clubs. they want the 1m extra? let them have it. in the end they might get relegated who knows. now thats payback |
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Sep 2 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 2 2012, 12:13 PM) by january, we would have played more than half the fixtures. a little too late by then if we are in trouble. FA cup and knock out stages of Euro league kicks off around January i think. Prior to that we only have the league, the league cup and group stages of Euro league. So there will be time to reinforce should we need to. Remember there will be players on the last terms of their contract who could be available at bargain prices. For instance, if Walcott doesn't renew his contract by then, he will only have 6 months left in his contract and his fee should a lot cheaper than now.unless we can loan someone. loan can be made anytime outside the window correct? Not sure about loan dateline, but dateline for free agent players is a bit longer if im not mistaken. |
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Sep 2 2012, 12:39 PM
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Sep 2 2012, 12:52 PM
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Just need Suarez to hit the kind of form he had against Norwich. Totally unplayable. Look at 2:58, so out of control and had to be man handled lol.
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Sep 2 2012, 01:01 PM
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The thing is we made only one bid for Dempsey and gave up after it was rejected. Doesn't sound like a player we were hellbent on getting. Perhaps we never did want him and made an offer that we knew would get rejected.
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Sep 2 2012, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 2 2012, 01:23 PM) fulham didnt take us seriously. they just teased us with 1m extra and we were put off. they sold dempsey anyway in the end. Think about it tho. Why did we only open negotiation at the very last minute of the transfer window ? All the other players we've signed we had started negotiation very early and worked from there. The Sahin negotiation dragged on for weeks for example. This wasn't the case with Dempsey. Something tells me he wasn't a primary target.bloody Liverpool cant even spend 1m extra? losing out to Spurs some more, our direct competitor. it makes no sense saving that 1m. just admit it - we fuc*ed up big time on dempsey. if news about the owners furious is true, then it makes even bigger embarassment. in then end, we neither did save face, not did we solve out own problem. it was a situation where we needed to just swallow the pride and just show the money. now fingers crossed none of borini and suarez are injured till january. what is the best part - neither are prolific. and no disrespect to anybody - wa cant even tiki taka properly, dont expect us to play like spain where they dont need any strikers and goals can come from midfield, although i understand, that is exactly what we are left with now |
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 2 2012, 01:42 PM) Didn't we try to sign him some weeks ago? FSG got ahead of themselves and announced the signing before it happen, didn't they? Did we ? Jol said we never made a bid prior to the one we made that got rejected. I think it was Sturridge who we really wanted. But that deal depended on Chelsea signing Schurrle from Leverkusen. So we waited and waited until it was clear Chelsea would not be signing the player, consequently ruling out the possibility of signing Sturridge. Only then we went for Dempsey. This is all speculation by the way, we can never be sure until the club make a statement which they won't.Secondly, if we weren't seriously looking for strikers, then why did we send Carroll out on loan? Bear in mind that other than Dempsey and Sturridge, we weren't link with anybody on the last day. So if they aren't our primary targets, who was supposed to take Carroll's place? My point is, somebody behind the doors clearly f***ed this up badly and once again we're at risk of facing another PR turmoil. |
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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 2 2012, 02:11 PM) well, the way i would have done it - sign dempsey first and if we did get sturridge, we will have a healthy 4 strikers. not bad. our mistake was to rely on chelsea. we should take matters into our own hands But what if the intention was to sign one or the other, and not both ? Sure it's nice to have stacks of strikers but perhaps the reality is that we could only afford one striker. |
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Suarez looking totally off today. Borini kept shying away from 50/50, he needs to go full in if he wants to win the ball. And we're seem like carrying Gerrard, his age is quite exposed here - easily outpaced, out moved by Arsenal.
Other than that, we're looking decent but the 3 attacking players need to step up! Sterling has been immense so far. |
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