For Masters.

i got in

um rejected me....

if u ex study easy liao

U what race ?

Untuk Mal... owaii...

U celebrate raya x..? If yes sure in

easily.

kesian

hehe ssee TS name susah la ,

UM biasa2 je

Not that hard

LOL

easy ..

yes, because its a place for elitist. they select pipu like needle in haystack
UM is the best U

Elitist institution.

Somehow it can drag you down or push you higher.

Chinese to bumi ratio almost even? that's news to me bro. if it is then

2nd year engineering stndt here , ya its pretty much balanced , the malays in our faculty is almost 50:50

just because it's equal distribution (though i doubt so , but oh well ) doesnt mean it's based on meritocracy.

pls refer to the definition of meritocracy again.... kthxbai

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Aug 17 2012, 02:54 AM

Um paling ramai budak iran

For postgrads

Lol

Alam Bina cafe still got that Iranian food stall? The food quite gooding

No idea, havent had the chance to have lunch there for quite some time already

Yeah gooding and menyelerakan

btw ts,quite easy if traffic fine

Not UPM?

Shitload of malays in islamic studies , literature stuffs etc, so far medic, engine , science is pretty balanced la (own experience there) , pretty much depends on merit

my fren non malay pun ramai dpt masuk yo,
as long as ur result gooding~

actually in my fac its 40% chinese

um racist

Itt: butthurt tak dpt masuk

Aunty so pro. ffffuuuuuuuu

There are lots of non Malays in UM. It's one of the institutions where your qualifications really matter.

enginering.accnt.biz....majority chinese...no prospect course aka pengajian melayu.pengajian islam.sastera..majority malay...no say 50%..more chinese than malay....the reasn...u all know why...only best of the best will get the seat in um...but for master is very easy as lng as ur pointer above than 3...for first degree...very hard

This post has been edited by jack~daniel: Aug 17 2012, 06:15 AM

Thats nt true..i was um student..if u frind frm not gud faculty...many malay...

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Added on August 17, 2012, 6:18 amEngineering 90% chinese..but now got interntnal student..i saw some hot korean student...um the only public uni where the girls can wear sexy...

This post has been edited by jack~daniel: Aug 17 2012, 06:19 AM

no need to see um only la, usm also even like that. Still got some people who never go in there say got quota.

Best ever university

Lol..

lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

masih tak percaya wujudnya sedikit keadilan

why?

Meritocracy. Friend of mine has shittier results than I have but got in fairly easy for her masters. She is also Chinese.

Those who say otherwise are morons.

Middle of KL and PJ , next to mid valley, next to LRT station, cinema.

Got nice swimming pool, sports facilities, active clubs, international lectures , visiting students, etc

If in the weekend boring can always hop on a bus at University Hospital station to go downtown KL

I enjoiced very much my stay in UM

This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 17 2012, 08:12 AM

rempit uni shud be easy to enter

i got offer to do my masters at UM but i rejected it.

University is so mainstream these days.

My brother got 4 CGPA in matrikulasi sains gunaan only able to enter UM on secondary batch.

Even for their graduate school and maybe undergrad, but foundation all malays

why?

no, its very easy. u turn off jln universiti and u masuk liao.

i rejected their offer

a bit too far from my workplace.got into somewhere nearer.

UM reject me too. I wana use internal konetsyen..

working experience must be more than 3 years

i am not aunty ok

i/c plis yoh shawteh to prove yoh is legit.

me born 89
take it or leave it

Engineering 90% chinese? That's because all the malays get to go to UTM. UM engineering nothing special.

wei bodoh? You got in UM or not?

johndoe got into UTM

so now he damn bangga la

later he get UTP trust me he sure say UTM sarks UTP rawkss

oh yeah, the best thing about UM is no curfew, first years can bring cars, you can pretty much do whatever you want

Pfft lol, wasn't even one of my choices. I'm not saying it sucks, just that its engineering faculty isn't as renowned as UTM. Chill the f*** out.


You know me too well

DIAM LA Vietnamese.

Talk cock.

UM international ranking is keep dropping, why not try Hong Kong or Singapore?

Most of malay are not qualified to enter UM due to the result not excellent, most of engineering student(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil) um are 4.0 from matrix and STPM. UTM engineering very easy to get n very easy to score, they have their own book and all lecturer will refer to the book when preparing the exam questions, so that's why many students can score and rate of student repeated the subject very low compare to UM(5 years is normal), while in UM,the question cant be predictable and most of lecturers are foreigners/engineering consultants, UM doesn't have the reference book like what others universities does, and most of lecturers preparing the open question and not based on the lecture class, i can say even u bring the book to the exam, u cant answer the question because most of the question are very open and u never seen the question before(u cant find in a book or lecturer notes), there are no tips from lecturer on exam, There are many 3.0 and above graduate students from UTM, while in UM, if u can pass 3, meaning u are good student because most of student graduated below 3 especially student from matrix/asasi UM. UTM engineering still accept 3.0 from matrix/STPM(i believe most of them are matrix student) student while there is not such kind of clowns in engineering UM. One things good about um, the live is free, not like others university, now UM has many international students for undergraduate and the percentage of malay students in UM are not majority anymore, so u can see hot chicks wearing short skirt around university(only in UM for public U category) and the UM gate 24 hours open(only in UM for public U category) since its located in the kl area. Dont worry about the job if u are graduated from UM, I can say 100% got a job after final exam, while in UTM there are many jobless compared to UM and student english proficiency is low.( Most of the class conducted in Malay).

yes agreed...u dont hv to follow malay culture...

wow, my boss from thr to econs.

Your statement totally wrong UM ranking keep dropping...please do more research...

The ranking not only based on r&d, but the percentage of international student, lecturer to students and so on...u can check the criteria by urself...any England University (Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College) or US university, once u enter, degree on ur hand...the Malaysia system very difficult...

what's the advantage of UTM Engineering ?

easy to get in if ure not a melei like me

i am doing my master in um nao

UTM ke UITM ke UKM ke UPM ke...

All the local M&M's university is shit ..... the only good one is UM ....

easy to get in and easy to score...most of student not consider as good student, thats why they end up in UTM...so easy for u to potong them...

macam shit je statement ko nih ....

I agreed, if u go to industrial..people will have more respect to UM graduate during interview especially if u are malay

no uni is hard to enroll,as long as ur result is good..
as for undergraduate studies,me and my friends got in, and yes we r non bumis.

Okay I take back all the bad things I've said about UM.

Anyway they still don't have my course so I didn't apply there. Maybe I should have reconsidered.

so you're saying curfews, can't bring cars for first years are malay culture?

i meant u can mix with different sex, can dating, can wear sexy...Others public U cant and u will get the ticket and counselling..some of outside students very surprised when they see the boy and girls hostel very near( u can see boys/girls in thee room because too near) and the student free to walk in and out ( only at lobby), UM is very free..u can walk in and out anytime from uni...

This post has been edited by jack~daniel: Aug 19 2012, 10:43 PM

oh you mean that, yeah, memang best

LOL

which engine?

I don't doubt what you have to say about UM, but you have to state some source for your info regarding UTM. They are not reputable for nothing.

you can probably just ask any UTM students/graduates for those info

if u have friends in UTM ,u can get the info from them...i got the info from my friends and the student who got into UTM during my time....very hard to find the student especially from matrix being offered to study in critical course in UM..

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...rld-bank-study/

http://www.mmail.com.my/story/end-quota-sy...ation-standards

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Added on August 19, 2012, 11:06 pmWorld ranking

435 Universiti Sains Malaysia 900 964 102 618
448 Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia / National University of Malaysia 764 554 372 850
451 Universiti Teknologi MARA 71 372 707 1,673
500 Universiti Putra Malaysia 444 758 511 857
527 Universiti Teknologi Malaysia 439 972 200 1,158
550 University of Malaya 981 1,068 336 692


This post has been edited by Tak3shi: Aug 19 2012, 11:06 PM

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=17195694

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-...ngs/2012?page=1

Once again, I'm sorry but based on everything I've ever read so far (student testimonials and general opinions), everybody (except for some of UM's own students) agrees that UM's engineering faculty cannot match that of UTM's. UTM has always been a clear winner. But thank you for your perspective on things.

which faculty ?

Currently UM is rank NO 1 in Malaysia, Rank 35 in Asia, Rank 167 in the world(2011)

UM World Ranking 2004-2011

2004- 89 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2005- 169 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2006- 192 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2007- 246 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2008- 230 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2009- 180 Times Higher Education World University Rankings – QS World University Rankings
2010- 207 QS World University Rankings
2011- 167 QS World University Rankings

UITM>UM???

UM the only public Uni who doesn't practice the quota(BUMI-NON BUMI) system, their selection base on merit and student qualification..so many nerds...no hot chicks in UM, so dont expect like taylor college, u can see most of the girls with glasses, loose shirt with sport shoes,,

this not true la bro..read my latest post...i dont know where this guy got this fake info

UM engineering undergraduate here.

Slightly misleading statement. For my course, there are about 60 students, roughly half of them are Malays. And in fact, all of them scored 4.0 (cut-off point for my course) in their pre-U exams, either Matriculation or UM Asasi. So, on the surface, their results are as 'excellent' as the other non-Bumis.

Of course, we all know that Matriculation exams are way easier than STPM and it doesn't take a genius to get 4.0. So after the first semester exams in UM, you'll find the faux 4.0 students failing their papers and struggling to keep up with classes. And from my observation, the only ones affected are the Malays (exam results drillz available on request).

So technically, they are 'qualified' based on pre-U results. But the problem is that we have a shitty pre-U system, and the results don't mean a thing.

There are good lecturers and bad lecturers in UM. But for my course, so far I've met more bad lecturers than good ones. Just how bad are they? They make me feel that I should address my high school teachers as Dr. instead of them. One of our lecturers from Indonesia couldn't even speak a proper sentence of English, and* he has been with the faculty for 10 years or so I've heard. How did he even pass his interview? Seriously, it's really really bad.

Not true. Some less popular UM engineering courses will still accept students as low as the ~3.2 range

This I can agree on.



I think English proficiency (or lack of it) is a national problem and it's not just affecting UTM. There are plenty of students in UM with bad English as well.

This post has been edited by xlcs: Aug 21 2012, 06:55 PM

[quote=xlcs,Aug 21 2012, 06:52 PM]
UM engineering undergraduate here.

Slightly misleading statement. For my course, there are about 60 students, roughly half of them are Malays. And in fact, all of them scored 4.0 (cut-off point for my course) in their pre-U exams, either Matriculation or UM Asasi. So, on the surface, their results are as 'excellent' as the other non-Bumis.

Bro, u junior than me, i was graduated 5 years ago, there are many 4.0 matrix student during ur time because the exam now much more simpler, different from my time.Not so many 4.0 matrix student, so the malay percentage very low especially electrical and mechanical.s0 dont compare ur time and my time,- some department has many malay, but the course not consider as popular course - manufacturing, enviroment engineering, and so on - i guess our time is different, since like now many students can get 4.o easily from matrix..)


Not true. Some less popular UM engineering courses will still accept students as low as the ~3.2 range
Check my post before u make any statement-(electrical,mechanical, chemical,civil)

This post has been edited by jack~daniel: Aug 21 2012, 08:31 PM

You graduated with a bachelor's degree 5 years ago? From UM? So during your university admission year, (pre-2005 from my calculations?) the Matriculation programme wasn't open to non-Bumis yet right?

Well in my defence, the sentence I was quoting was "UTM engineering still accept 3.0 from matrix/STPM(i believe most of them are matrix student) student while there is not such kind of clowns in engineering UM" and your (electrical, mech ...) part was in the first paragraph so I didn't think that was relevant. But if you insist, fine.

if you are stupid, yes
if you are smart, no
nothing to do with race

From reading your posts, I can see that while you graduated from UM, your english proficiency level is quite low as well.

hi john doe

why abandon the dupe?

eh he my cousin