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infernoaswen
post Aug 17 2012, 10:57 AM

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not bad la the 660TI....now i am thinking should i sell my 670 & get the 660TI?

next year want to watercool d....not sure if there will be any WB for 660TI hmm.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Aug 17 2012, 11:02 AM)
I'm sure if you share them with lingloong, he will happily match the price. brows.gif

yoongkeen/zhen^wei - RM1439
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Added on August 17, 2012, 11:03 am
Keep your 670 bro. The current pricing for 660 Ti also not really that attrative anyway. What 670 you're using btw?
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yup price isnt that cheap but i guess thats what they expect us to pay for a card that has performance as close as 670.

Right now using asus 670 (non top) but will be watercooling it next year so thinking of changing to a reference design card since i will need to remove the cooler & replace with a WB anyways.

or i could just wait till next year & change at that time... laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Aug 18 2012, 12:07 AM)
just to share my test result on the new msi 670 pe oc

stock cpu, stock gpu

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stock cpu, oc gpu

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Added on August 18, 2012, 12:09 am

c-zone staff very lcly so i rarely buy with them, i recommend u go viewnet, try ask their best price for the asus 670 non top, i got mine there like 2 weeks ago
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max overclock already? because i got the same overclock results as you laugh.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 19 2012, 04:42 PM)

Added on August 19, 2012, 4:52 pmthat guy is just lucky coz he seems like he got a GOLDEN 670 there.. and that 680 of his is just so so.. because asus 680 top can reach 1367+-
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nope not true....my 670 also got the same benchmark results & same goes with zerohunter. I believe thats the average max oc for 670 but i am not sure about the 680 though. It could be he got an unlucky chip but there are some people claiming their 680 do not have as much oc-ing headroom as the 670.

Maybe those who owns a 680 could do a max oc & benchmark it for us to clarify it since for 670 already got benchmark results? hmm.gif

Would be great if those who owns a 660TI to max oc it & post the benchmark results too tongue.gif

QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 19 2012, 07:23 PM)
its better to compare head to head. example 670 oc @ 1250 vs. 680 oc @ 1250 and see how much r the differences in scores n fps
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Yeah to be fair i guess they should do a benchmark with both running at same clock speed & memory but the purpose of that thread i think is for max oc of both cards & comparing it.
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post Aug 19 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 19 2012, 11:11 PM)
which means gaybite 680 is not a good card for oc laugh.gif
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i guess we can say so? laugh.gif but i saw some manage to get up to 53fps in heaven but if we compare thats just like 2-3 fps difference with 670 tongue.gif

I really would like to see those gtx 680 lightning benchmark results in heaven brows.gif

EDIT: nvm, found out that devillightning1 did post his lightning results at the official oc thread.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1549508/+520

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post Aug 20 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ukimaro @ Aug 20 2012, 07:23 PM)
yea i was benching using unigine yesterday. it crashed after 1060mhz gpu clock without voltage tweaking.

was aiming 1100mhz though. but anyways if increasing the voltage to max in afterburner, is it considered safe ?
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overclocking now is more tricky than before. I strongly advice you to read this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1265110/the-gtx...ng-master-guide

Best guide available that i manage to find, but to answer your question i believe by increasing the voltage you will just end up decreasing the performance of the card because the temps will surely rise more than 70'C. Unless you are watercooling it then its another story....

EDIT: btw maxing out the power target is safe, but core voltage probably not.

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post Aug 20 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(ukimaro @ Aug 20 2012, 07:44 PM)
thank you for the link bro, yes thats why. yesterday i bench then i tweak the voltage by 1 notch but still crash in unigine with 1100mhz, after that don dare already lol ..
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you need to max out your power target first. Because with the kepler cards, they adjust the voltage dynamically & when overclocking mine i notice it crashes whenever the voltage changes but if you max out the power target, the voltage will be constant.

Another culprit is probably your temps, if it reaches more than 70'C then thats probably the reason why it crashed. You need to keep it under 70'C so you probably need to adjust the fan graphs. This applies to the non top cards, not sure about other brands though but i heard for the TOP version the temps are at 80'C instead of 70'C.
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post Aug 21 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(riderz135 @ Aug 21 2012, 01:03 PM)
Free Dust if u get diz card.. biggrin.gif no hassle  thumbup.gif
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wouldnt say "free dust" it blows out dust from the card but dust will clog at your processor, casing fans & around the casing...so you probably still need to do cleaning as usual but probably less on the graphic card. It will probably make cleaning of your graphic card easier biggrin.gif

Best is to put filters all around the air intake areas, that will minimize the need of cleaning smile.gif

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post Aug 21 2012, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 21 2012, 06:37 PM)
all modern n latest casing will have filters at intake but lol cm690 advanced even have filters on top for exhaust. which is quite hard to b removed vmad.gif
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not really...usually side panel intake dosent have a filter
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Aug 23 2012, 10:07 AM)
From my experience, it is often priced somewhere in between the cheaper ones from Leadtek and the pricier ones from Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. If budget is of your upmost importance, go for Leadtek instead.
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different case for gtx 670...galaxy seems to be more expensive compare to other brands.
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post Aug 23 2012, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(hazwan_aviator @ Aug 23 2012, 03:48 PM)
im not toward reference card... sweat.gif
but boonykun, lingloong, zhen^wei,yoongkeen surely offer a really nice price... thumbup.gif
i did some psu calculation,i know that it isnt 100% accurate...
here is it:
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seem like its almost hit the peak... shocking.gif  cry.gif
that really worrying me out... cry.gif  cry.gif  rclxub.gif
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why dont get from hikari85? from penang also....last time i pm, she offer the cheapest price compare to all the other sellers but i wanted to cod so no choice but to get from lingloong lor...
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(ImAintNerd @ Aug 23 2012, 10:43 PM)
hello nvidia users smile.gif
does asus gtx670 non top dcu2 is a reliable card? its headroom for oc is big enough? coz me only can find most detailed review for top model... and who's the cheapest seller in LYN? coz me only got rm1350..
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I am a proud user here lol. reliable? i been pushing it to the max while playing bf3 so yeah pretty reliable i would say. Only the TOP version had issues when it was released but now everything is settled with a bios update. As for NON TOP version, no issues from the day it released till today.

OC headroom is too big i would say...i overclock mine to the max & performance is on par with STOCK gtx 680. MSI PE is also quite good...if overclock that its 3-4fps better than asus. Gigabyte also not bad...but in the end it comes to personal preference. 3-4 fps wont show much difference, but reason why i went for asus is because it matches my ROG colour scheme + comes with a backplate. blush.gif

I heard someone got for rm1300 at viewnet....so should be somewhere around there lor...
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 24 2012, 09:53 PM)
The boost clock on gpuz is just the 'guaranteed' boost clock that the card will deliver under max load but it can actually go beyond that boost clock. That extra boost (on top of the stated max boost) is what being dubbed as the Kepler boost and every card has different kepler boost.

Your card with boost of 1248 and max boost of 1340 is capable of doing 92 kepler boost. That's quite decent since good oc are the ones to be above 1300 range. My PE is rather average, only capable of 65 kepler boost and i'm only stable at 1293 but i'm settling with 1263 for 24/7 usage.

Btw, make sure the max boost is consistent when you benchmark. If it fluctuates, it's more or less unstable and it's something you may want to work on. Also the card will throttle when it either reaches 70c or exceeding the power limit threshold.
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someone did his homework by reading the overclock.net thread thumbup.gif
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post Aug 26 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(pcminc @ Aug 26 2012, 07:12 PM)
can't imagine that nowadays i need to spend 1 k above for the gpu ++
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Rule no.1: Define your budget first, then buy a graphic card within that budget.

Never add extra just because the graphic card is faster than another (well if its less then rm50 i guess its an exception). Technology & games are keep improving fast, today you bought something awesome...in couple of months something better will come out that outperforms your card & more demanding games will be out and they cycle will continue. So you cant compare today's technology with future, but most of the games can adjust settings, so if more demanding game comes out later you can still play it by adjusting the settings.

I also like you before, i overspent my budget & got a gtx 670. Although its a powerful card but now i dont have enough money to watercool my rig...need to wait till next year doh.gif
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QUOTE(Alfsaw @ Aug 28 2012, 03:03 PM)
PE stable OC at 1340mhz? Highest Ive tried for mine is 1350mhz, scared to go higher though i know its possible.  biggrin.gif
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card clock speed dosent matter for oc anymore, oc-ing is slightly different now. Most important is the kepler boost as your card wont be running whatever mhz you think you set it. Will surely run higher than that.

QUOTE(law1777 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:09 PM)
more fans = noisier
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nope, there are silent fans out there too & like what zerohunter said...the flow is very important too.

QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:17 PM)
A reference 670 uses a centrifugal fan (aka blower) that directly expels out the hot air (from cooling the GPU) from your casing. So i guess adding more chassis fans wouldn't help much. A typical two fan setup, one as intake, and one as exhaust should be enough.

Non-reference design usually does not expel all the hot air out from the casing. There are some that retains inside the casing, so good casing ventilation is important. smile.gif
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+1. Well said. Those corsair watercooling cpu will go well with reference design gpu. brows.gif


Added on August 28, 2012, 5:59 pmwhat! the new driver decreased my heaven benchmark score! will confirm this during the weekends to figure out why different scores and do more benchmark testing.. smile.gif

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post Aug 29 2012, 01:21 AM

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laugh.gif http://www.overclock.net/t/1299621/msi-gtx-670-pe-oc-blew-up
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:41 PM

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next time if anybody in this thread ask the difference between reference design card & custom please give them this link and ask them to watch it:


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post Sep 4 2012, 11:14 PM

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flashing to a modded bios can void warranty if i am not mistaken. In case anything goes wrong there might be a chance they wont accept the card for RMA if they can check the bios.
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post Sep 8 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(rave963 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:57 PM)
hey guys .. wanna ask. Lets say if I buy a 2nd hand Gigabyte GTX670 and no receipt. Warranty still can claim or harder to claim?

Thanks
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never buy stuff without receipt. It could even be from a stolen rig. Kill the demand to reduce criminal activity.
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post Sep 11 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 10 2012, 12:05 PM)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1286239/the-gtx...sion-thread/120

Now its the time for gaygay 680 winforce oc to fakap 670 and any top and dcuii asses. Any takers for the unlock power limit bios? Hehe
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there is a unlocked voltage bios for gtx670 as well, just depends on the person want to take the risk or not. I will not try until watercool it first, because oc to the max without voltage unlock also quite hot d. cool2.gif

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