haha ic...okie i will check them out later n try 2 nego them price down 2 RM600

I've been following this thread and I was on the same boat with you before this, then I read few pages back then I got it. Some 680 users are butthurt at those 670s out there, especially the MSI GTX 670 Power Edition OC. I did some research and I found this

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The prices different between those cards are about RM400 for few fps only. Also I've seen many people say that the gigabyte RMA is not that good.

MSI Caught Overvolting GTX 660 Ti, 670 Power Edition Cards

If a company changes its product in the middle of a production run after an error becomes public, you know something’s fishy. If Nvidia steps in as well, that’s a good indication there’s something serious going on. Here’s what happened at MSI.

Our colleagues over at Tom’s Hardware Germany seem to have caught MSI red handed, overvolting the GPUs on the GTX 660 Ti and GTX 670 Ti Power Edition boards (Google Translate) to achieve a higher and longer lasting GPU boost state by basically circumventing the PWM controller. In other words, MSI was cheating. Perhaps no one would ever have known if it hadn’t been for one side effect. The increased voltage can cause the system to refuse to POST.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-6...tion,18013.html

That was with the lightning series. Let's not bring that in too.
Yes. Yes. The vendor is aware of consumer's dissatisfaction and they are already fixing it. Thanks for your comment.

i'm not sure about running oc clock on 24/7, but i did play games for few hours using the oc setting, no issue. like i said before, i oc to play play only, just to find out the max stable oc, benchmark, that's all. i run on stock 24/7.

what is the conclusion for the issue then?

Originally Posted by blackened23 
Shame on MSI for providing a card better than the competition  for the same price.
Seems like a ridiculous way to slam MSI, I still consider MSI cards the best. The lightning 680 is the best 680, and the PE 670 is the best 670 on the market, period.

Originally Posted by tviceman 
Agreed. Nvidia is cracking down hard on overvolting. It's either because they know GK104 is bandwidth strapped, and gets very little additional benefit from over-volted overclocking (unless the vram is clocked to the moon), they are genuinely trying to put a stop to overvolt overclocking for cost/warranty/RMA reasons, or they don't want users extracting 30+% more performance out of their GPU's which they feel was eating into upgrade cycles.

Originally Posted by Sharchaster
Excellent explanation, that's what I'm thinking so far. Lucky for me to bought PE card much faster. nvidia is like a child IMO to prevent their ENTHUSIAST users to got enjoyable overclocking experience.
Nice for MSI to take a risk for offering their users to got enjoyable overclocking experience, which other brand can't do it.

Seriously? If it's real I'll be very emo. I just got mine from lingloong at rm830

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Hey guys, don't regret too much la. This is the price to pay especially if you're jumping to new models.

Most important thing is, you're satisfied with the 660's performance right? Well for me, i certainly am. I've tested 680, 3 models of 670 and finally this 660, i can't seem to "feel" the difference in games, except for benchies only.

this is too sick, idle temp 25C?? 

I don't see 25C idle temp. 28C got la.

Anyway, i think the temp profile for TF3 is already very good, it actually has superior load temp compared to HAWK. Regardless, i seriously think that MSI has completely nailed down a superb cooling solution, regardless whether it's TF3 or TF4.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_HAWK/32.html