I am a support Executive in a MNC with 4years experience. I earn Rm5000/mth with usual benefits. I have 14days annual leave (not counting other public holidays ` raya, cny, xmas, sultan/agong bday etc).

My question is Whats your annual Holiday entitlement? Is it on par with your years of service to the company?

Like for e.g. Executive level

~ Under 2 years = ? days
~ 2-5yrs = ? days
~ ABove 5 years = ? days...

I am trying to convince my Boss (who is member in the HR Assoc something of Malaysia) that Executive & Manager level is different and that the number of annual leave entitlement can also be a greater 'carrot' to reward hardworking staff.

Do you agree?

Thank you.

me 1st year 22days

20 days

how does annual leave days "reward" staff.
most of the time these guys are the ones who hardly take leave.

in fact, last time my company allow to claim extra annual leave when u work overnite, weekends.

so at one point i got 40+ days annual leave and end up cannot take them cos of work, and cannot encash them. burn liao. that was my reward.

20 days? 22days? 40days? U guys are senior manager with many years of working? Can you assist with years of service and designation to equate the number of annual leave?

Else, i worry i go to my boss with halfpast 6 info...Thanks.

banking line?


many companies that i know of uses years in company to calculate annual leave. 14 days for the first year, then 1 additional day for each consecutive year and finally capped at 20-22 days. (number of days are just example)

most company has limits on the number of days that can bring over to the next fiscal year.


4 years working experience @ rm5000 per month salary and you're not satisfied?

This post has been edited by LovesReborn: Aug 13 2012, 03:06 PM

heavy industry

This post has been edited by kiko911: Aug 13 2012, 03:09 PM

Now 28 days/year.. max..

IT - 7yr exp...just join 1 yr - 22 days

just masuk 3months back. 25 days.

mine 6 days. u guys got so many AL, best lol

Me,
1st job-24 days
2nd job-25 days
Current job- 26 days

25 days.

If I were to be hired 3 years earlier, it would've been 30 days.

24 days flat (regardless your position) as long as you are in the company for 4 yrs.

1st year when you join the company = 18 days, increase 2 days per calender year basis. (regardless position). New hired deputy CEO in my company only have 18 AL... (but I think make no different for them if he "disappear" in the office)

This post has been edited by z21j: Aug 14 2012, 08:30 AM

i thought the legal minimum set by government is 8 days
unless you are talking about prorated leaves if you join in for less than a year

In a publiahing xompany- 14 days AL - freshie
In a bank previously, 19 days AL- freshie
Now, in a biotech company- 18 days AL - baru join

No annual leave for me.

me non exec-20 day company glc
exec lvl- 22 days

used to hv 8, 12, 14, 18 n nearly got 21 days. but 14 days is kinda common

Not everyone wants reward in terms of leave entitlement. what is the point of having so many leave entitlements if you can't utilize it?
A better reward would be like awards, incentives, bonus, profit sharing, etc for the hardworking workers.

mine is 21 days

I do agree that leave entitlement is just an average incentive, nothing to shout off especially in organizations where it is so difficult to apply for AL.

42 days. But not in malaysia though

Can I know what are you all working as?
And your position title?

Are you in IT line? (I mean your line, not your company's business nature)

I agree on this, unless you can utilize all your given AL what's the point right? However, bonuses, profit sharing and incentives (eg. car allowance) for the deserving are much better IMO.

On-topic, 20 days as exec.

currently 20 days at a bank. new job soon will be only 14. Not that I use it anyway.

90 days / annum not in malaysia though.

24 days Executive =)

International logistics, trading and distribution.

I agree that getting extra days for AL is not as attractive as cold cash..BUT in company where one is allowed and even encouraged to take leave, i think the additional AL will be appreciated.

Some co believe that a staff after coming back from AL is like a recharged battery :-) I think that is why company will say AL will be forfeited if yu dont take...
Work is never ending and many of us think that we are indispensable...which my boss doesnt think so.

We as well as him are dispensable.
Thanks for input guys. Appreciate that.

Teaching line. 7 days annual leave.

Which field you're in not that important.
The Annual Leave normally will be different among different industry.

So far banking industry having alot AL as they have to apply block leave. It can up to 30 days/Annual.

Telco.. 20 days for starters and will increase every year up to 30 days

chinaman logistics company

manager and below
below 2 yrs - 8 days
2-5 yrs - 12 days
abv 5 yrs - 16 days

manager & abv
below 2 yrs - 10 days
2-5 yrs - 14 days
abv 5 yrs - 18 days

PH = 13 days out of 18 days in selangor

this is the most stingy company i ever worked before.

Executive 15 days p.a.

how come you guys got so many ?

my friend in advertising firm 14 days p.a. ~

mine 16 days.. but in sales line = no annual leave

so banking gives 30 days hmmm. i win lah liddat 90 days liao lol

Wow, bravo? Here's your trophy

Anyways, the minimum is 8 days for first 2 years of employment. So anything more is really up to the company itself.

8 days AL.. for CNY or Raya 3 days gone liao, then left 5 days, going for a domestic trip (eg Langkawi, Redang, etc) use another 3 days, leaving only 2 days for your emergency purpose??

not everyone is local, some people do have a hometown to go back to..

I been to an interview before, the AL they offer for those new joiners are 8 days, barely following the minimum legal requirement, I straightaway told them my current place give 20 days regardless you work there for 1 year or 10 years and they gave me a surprise look.

Which makes me wonder, nowadays still got people willing to work in such cinapek company??

Agreed. Most stingy company I have ever seen.

24/year. banking... hehe now left 4 day, untill end of 2012

Since your boss is a member of HR mumbo jumbo..
i thought that HR compensation and benefit always perform
some sort of survey to compare own company's benefits (including annual leave)
versus other companies within the same field to benchmark?

anyhow.. my input on AL (as an engineer in semicon industry):

junior level = 14days
senior level = 16days
staff level = 18days

more than 5yrs' working = +2days
more than 10yrs' working = +2days

right now i have 20days AL as i'm in staff level with >5yrs' working in this co.

to me 14 days is standard. i always gauge a CO's AL and Public holidays observed in my past job search.

those CO that gives 8days AL and ONLY observed SELECTED Public/State holidays are the ones in my NEVER BORTHER TO INTERVIEW LIST because i believe this is good enuf for me to judge the BOSS to be:-

1) darm calculative (till no grass can grow);
2) no staff welfare minded;
3) don't expect proper system of appraised pay raise, bonus;
4) super stingy;
5) the mentality of "i pay you, i own you" ;
6) no SOP punya, the only SOP is the boss say!!!

SADLY, this is usually a "Cina-Pek" or complicated family members operated business where all the "yee-ma-ku-sher" in the CO.

Knowing how a HELL look like, will help you not to walk yourself into one and most importantly wasting your time in one.

This post has been edited by vincentwmh: Aug 16 2012, 11:27 AM

IT line

14 days

Any public holiday fall on saturday will get 1 extra replacement holiday.

working on saturday and sunday over 4 hours get a replacement holiday.

24
manufacturing line

probably unlimited leaves

I am normal Eng level .
Annual Leave -18 days
if public holiday falls on saturday, credit 1 days to your leave
If public holiday falls on Sunday, replace on Monday
If leave over certain limit - Cash it out.
Over another certain limit - burn it o.0

My AL is only 12Days/Year(max) even u r manager level.....

fully utilize all leave. nice. mine so sikit. kedekut.

Normal executive, 14 days

Freshie, 22 days.

GAree..But i also try to do my own survey here to match his mumbo jumbo.

But ithink he is now fair as he operates also similar to most here.
14days AL on entry, then after add 1 day for each year service...

Thank you all for participating...and i like the fact that few try to inflate their AL to influence my assessment.

Thanks again!

10days here as a fresh engineer

12 days after working almost 6 year for the company plus I have to work 6 day a week (Saturday full day some more). Working for a Chinaman family based business..... : (

14 days

after 5 years,16 days

Mine, 1st year, 12, 2nd 14, 3rd 16, 4th 18.

18 would be the max but we can accumulate our holidays so it's not a bad thing at all.

Some of my friends in a bank has 30 days per year. Still, they'd have to finish them all in a year. Lol.

This post has been edited by digitalz: Oct 8 2012, 12:29 PM

Wallawehh.. You're so lucky. I've to work for at least 8 hours (the exact same working hours with weekdays'), excluding meal and prayer time, to get a replacement leave.

Present job 25 days if less than 5 years and 35 if more than 5 years.(local bank)
No replacement day or time off if you work on weekends or public holidays though

Previous job 18 days annual leave if less than 5 years of service.
25 days if more than 5 years.(downstream local oil and gas)
Replacement day or time off if you work on weekends and public holidays.

Executive level with more than 12 years of working experience.



This post has been edited by darium: Oct 8 2012, 10:14 PM

my sister recently got interview by a company call lunch actually. first year no annual leave. second year only got 8 days. is this appropriate under labor law?

research exec 18 days

I notice Big4 firm's only offer 14-16 days for fresh grads, any idea why so low?

Is it include with public hols?

No, not included, aren't all annual leave quotes here not including public holidays?

fresh software engi, 14 days....

Entry level here 15 days/year

Fresh engineer at multinational company. US based in Johor.

14 days

good enough for me.

really thankful.

My company counts it as per years of services , not based on position.

1-3 yr: 14 days
3-7 yr: 18 days
7yr and above: 21 days


For those who join fresh for a company and entitled to 20-22 days annual leave, you guys are dam lucky! ><

I wonder does the annual leave for each company tells us about the reputation and performance of the company? Irregardless, I guess.

17

First job - 21

Jobs in SME companies - 10-12 days. There was one who even wanted to implement 8 days annual leave! But the staffs made noise kao kao, in the end they didn't do it

seems that my co. is the paling "GIAM SIAP" one

Editor in a publishing co.

Less than 2 years: 8 days

2~5 years: 12 days

5 years above: 18 days

First company: Japanese company (manufacturing)
1-3 yrs: 8 days
4-5 yrs: 12 days
5-10: 15 days
10+: 20 days

Second company: US company (electronics)
1-5 yrs: 15.5 days
6-10 yrs: 18 days
10+: 22 days

Second company (revised): US company (electronics)
1-5 yrs: 12 days
6-10 yrs: 15 days
10+: 20 days
The company lower down the annual leaves to "standardize leaves in all companies in other countries"
And they said, good news is we are allowed to carry forward 1.5X annual leaves compared to previously 1x annual leaves!
They give you less annual leaves and then allow you to carry forward more, what kind of twisted logic is that?

Third company: US company (electronics)
1-3 yrs: 12 days
3+: dunno yet, haven't started to work in new company yet

first + second years - 8 days only.

mine used to be 24 days. but alternate saturdays, half days.

now 15 days. but 5 working days/week. monday/friday replacement holiday if public holiday falls on weekends.

mine follow Employment act:

First 2 years : 8days
3-5 years : 12 days
5 years above : 16days

First job - pharma company
1-3 yr - 14 days
>3 yr - add one more day with one more year of service, max 25 days

Second job - logistics company
1-8 yr - 14 days
>8 yr - 21 days

Hard to tell which one is better.

Annual 23 days MC 22 days, Replacement 106 days

26-30 days.

my 1st year in the company i've got 20 days of AL .. lucky me
And also i guess my company is very welfare to their workers .. quite alot of company trips as well hehe. i'm blessed.

<1 Year 18 Days

only 18 days / year

Mine is 24 days..

Mine is 26 days pa

21 days.

Exec in bank. 25 days . From fresh till now ..3yrs

First job in market research: 20 days