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 Salary RM3500; how much should you pay for a house, Realistically?

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K.I.T.T
post Aug 22 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 22 2012, 04:05 PM)
why children will tanggung hutang? this will only happen for those who have no proper financial planning... passing down debt to the ext generation...

meaning you still pay the bank despite having a halfcooked house doh.gif
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beli kereta pun ada guarantorr.lagi beli rumah?
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:04 PM

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3.5k gross or nett?
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 22 2012, 04:37 PM)
beli kereta pun ada guarantorr.lagi beli rumah?
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if buy car also need guarantor then that person memang cannot buy a car... unless foreigner...
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 22 2012, 05:07 PM)
if buy car also need guarantor then that person memang cannot buy a car... unless foreigner...
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i beli myvi RM 558 sebulan.my mom jadi guanratorr.that time my gaji RM 1000 je.(my mom gov servant)

lagi hutang 9 tahun. cry.gif ..mula mula pergi AMBank diorang reject.pergi RHB diorang approved. whistling.gif .......
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post Aug 22 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 22 2012, 05:14 PM)
i beli myvi RM 558 sebulan.my mom jadi guanratorr.that time my gaji RM 1000 je.(my mom gov servant)

lagi hutang 9 tahun. cry.gif  ..mula mula pergi AMBank diorang reject.pergi RHB diorang approved. whistling.gif .......
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Kid,

First of all, did you aware the 1/3 rule ?

Secondly, have you bought your own property yet ?

Third, If you have doubt with any of new development projects and scared it will be abandoned later, you can always choose to buy via subsale or properties that have been built to sell. Either way you can choose any of reputable developers too eg: Sime Darby, I&P, Sunway, SP Setia and so on. Expensive ? Yes, but that saves you from a lot of hassles.

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post Aug 23 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Aug 22 2012, 03:16 PM)
bro, i shortcut a bit cos thought you understood since that guy said that he's paying 1.7k/month for 40 years, so you can pay 2.4k(/month) for 20 years, same effect...

cos definitely your loan application will get rejected if you apply for 20 years with a low salary... some more people nowadays have credit card debt...

what i'm trying to convey is you can take a long loan but don't take a long time to repay... you got increment, dump in more, you can bonus, you put more in... then you can get out of debt earlier... housing loan is not a car loan where the interest is calculated and charged upfront...

my dad has this interesting thinking... want to buy house, don't take loan, buy cash... thumbup.gif
he's not wrong... just that houses don't cost 20k like 20 years ago...

MBSB... by giving gahmen servants low rates, they charge the public faqing high rates to cover up...

once you owe the bank, you owe the bank despite the project gets abandoned... this depends on how good your research is...
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+1. One can take a longer loan period but settle it off earlier than that. get bonus- dump in for house payment. Housing loan, unlike car loan, is based on reducing balance (check your loan terms first). So, if you have proper planning you can settle off faster than the stated tenure. Buying with cahs -possible if you are loaded , won a lottery or earn 30k/month. By the time you save just say 500k cash for your house, the houses might be a million. It is pretty unrealistic for a middle income person to buy a house by cash using his/her monthly salary.
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Aug 22 2012, 11:56 PM)
Kid,

First of all, did you aware the 1/3 rule ?

Secondly, have you bought your own property yet ?

Third, If you have doubt with any of new development projects and scared it will be abandoned later, you can always choose to buy via subsale or properties that have been built to sell. Either way you can choose any of reputable developers too eg: Sime  Darby, I&P, Sunway, SP Setia and so on. Expensive ? Yes, but that saves you from a lot of hassles.
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yeah that time.i am kerja makan gaji.i know cukup bulan dapat gaji habis bayar hutang.bila hari raya dapat bonus...masuk pukul 11 pagi keluar balik pukul 7 malam.thats all.but now i am already takeover my exboss shop and bussiness so each sen and ringgit become my first priority. flex.gif

next time aku beli kereta cash je bro.takde bodoh@otak kat lutut time memula kerja dulu hutang 9 tahun...bab propeperty..rasanya aku akan compare beli tanah buat sendiri berapa.harga rumah secondhand berapa.pastu property under good developers berapa.like i said.sen and ringgit become my first priority. thumbup.gif

well korang jangan jadi macam exbos aku.beli lot kedai kat shopping kompleks.lepas 10 tahun management buat hal.gaduh.bawak lari duit maintance..habis semua tenant lari. whistling.gif ...
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:18 AM

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BNM lending guideline.. every person can only carry up to 40% of his/her salary as debt.. n for housing loan itself max is up to 33%.. the other 7% is for your other debt like car loan, personal loan n etc..
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:16 PM

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dun count like 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/2 of salary like that lah. thats marketing strategy by property advertiser. those are stupid rules created for stupid people to follow. Stupid 1/3 rules are used by property and loaners alike when they are lazy to help you to calculate your real needs and spending.

U should deduct all your spending from 3.5K.....like;

3500 - food 700 - bills 300 - misc 1000 - entertainment 300 - saving 200 = rm 500.

then rm500 is what u can pay monthly.

u can choose 100k house or 300k house and just pay 500 monthly. So the difference is how long you need to pay....10 yrs - 60 years?


Added on August 24, 2012, 12:19 pm
QUOTE(jackiewong @ Aug 24 2012, 09:18 AM)
BNM lending guideline.. every person can only carry up to 40% of his/her salary as debt.. n for housing loan itself max is up to 33%.. the other 7% is for your other debt like car loan, personal loan n etc..
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again.. thats a stupid guideline. just like saying everybody can carry 40% of his/her own weight in kilos.

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post Aug 24 2012, 04:54 PM

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do u haf downpayment money for the house?
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post Aug 30 2012, 01:31 AM

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Reading this thread make me scared.
Lol i'm not even graduate yet but I'll have 21k study loan to be settled.
And I think I'll barely make 2k as fresh grad when I work later.

God help people like me
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post Aug 30 2012, 01:32 PM

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all i know 100k loan = lebih kurang 500@40years..

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post Aug 31 2012, 01:13 AM

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200 apartment or condo. Rm 700-900
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post Aug 31 2012, 08:10 AM

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Quite a good threat, let's me share my story, ayam just signed snp last week for an apmt for 170K developed by SPSetia, around loan approval processing my salary is just 2.6 k gross and 2k nett, luckily I managed to get loan for tenure 35 years monthly rm665, buying property isvery messy, based on experienced is 1st u need to choose good developer and location, thats the first bank consideration to approve ur loan for new property, 2nd need to be ready a good fianancial plan, u need have atleast 20% for dowpayment + legal fee, do prepare 10%, but need to consider the MRTA- home loan insurance, some bank will provide good interest based on MRTA u take from them, that's just my 2 cent

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post Aug 31 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(anz87 @ Aug 31 2012, 08:10 AM)
Quite a good threat, let's me share my story, ayam just signed snp last week for an apmt for 170K developed by SPSetia, around loan approval processing my salary is just 2.6 k gross and 2k nett, luckily I managed to get loan for tenure 35 years monthly rm665, buying property isvery messy, based on experienced is 1st u need to choose good developer and location, thats the first bank consideration to approve ur loan for new property, 2nd need to be ready a good fianancial plan, u need have atleast 20% for dowpayment + legal fee, do prepare 10%, but need to consider the MRTA- home loan insurance, some bank will provide good interest based on MRTA u take from them, that's just my 2 cent
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i got few question for you.

1) Where yours location?
2) Did u buy sub sales / on going project / new project (Haven't start)
3) If on going project / new project, did u need to pay when your property is completed or when your loan is approved?

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post Sep 1 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(sharpex @ Aug 31 2012, 11:56 PM)
i got few question for you.

1) Where yours location?
2) Did u buy sub sales / on going project / new project (Haven't start)
3) If on going project / new project, did u need to pay when your property is completed or when your loan is approved?

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Hi..my reply as per below
1. Setia alam
2.New project
3. I only pay 10% dowpayment, the rest is covered by developer - SP setia

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