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shadow_walker
post Sep 11 2012, 10:10 AM

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hi all...kinda interested in investing in mutual funds..seems PIOF is one of the stronger funds now in Public Mutual line up.

just wanna ask taikors advise on this fund particularly and if there is other funds(mutual funds that is)..

newbie here so sorry if didnt follow any rules etc....(for argument sake let say i have rm100k to be diversified)

TQ! smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(funnybone @ Sep 11 2012, 10:11 AM)
Invest in REITs better. Mutual funds losing its lacksture brows.gif
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Really? i thought mutual funds are generally lower risk as its more diversified etc.

hence i thought its more lower risk n can offer marginally better returns than FD..lol

Can taikor explain why its lacklustre now? wanna understand more..kamsiah!
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post Sep 11 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(funnybone @ Sep 11 2012, 10:20 AM)
I also no idea...ppl advice me that way and I just follow..haha brows.gif
Besides, investment is purely dependent on individuals risk-tolerance level. Since you compare the mutual funds to FDs, then mutual funds should be your cup of tea
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i see...well coz a unit trust consultant approached me about this funds..they are from public mutual..so just want to ask expert opinions for PIOF among others..hehe
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post Sep 11 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 11 2012, 01:24 PM)
before u buy the units, read the prospectus and understand it first.
waht is ur risk tolerance?
aggressif?
ur age?
how long u want to invest?
waht is ur expectation returns?
plan? retirment?education?
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my risk tolerance is aggressive i think..thats why looking into equity funds
read the prospectus and the capital gain n as well as dividents of PIOF seems okay and
the companies the fund is investing seems to be doing well.

age is 25.

investment term is medium to long term (3-5years?)

basically just looking for money instrument better yield than FD etc..

for example, if i dump 100k into PIOF now and only will use it say in 4 years time..is it recommended? TQ


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 11 2012, 02:42 PM)
How can be mutual fund low risk?

Ask back a question.
Is stock market high risk?
Is buying listed company share out there is high risk?

So mutual fund takes your money and buy listed company share in the stock market, how come it suddenly can become low risk?

Just because funds generally are diversified, aka buying a couples or ten plus stocks in the fund, does it make a high risk (owning listed company share) become a low risk already?
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Sorry what i meant was lower risk than stock market..i understand its quite volatile..my risk appetite is quite high but not stocks level yet..huhu

its just that mutual funds one unit is invested in more companies so in a way its already diversified as compared to stocks. aite? heheh

This post has been edited by shadow_walker: Sep 11 2012, 02:56 PM
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post Sep 11 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 11 2012, 03:32 PM)
But risk exposure to stock market is still the same, except your can have more diversification or spread out the risk to more stocks.
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Thats whats im getting at..spread out the risk thru diversification..hehe..neway cherroy boss do u recommend going for fund such as PIOF? many thanks
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post Sep 11 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 11 2012, 04:33 PM)
aggressif and looking for better yeild than FD only. rclxub.gif

u r  conservative not aggressif.

actually i want capital gain+dividends of >12% p.a

buy bond funds for safety..... equity funds not recommened for 4 yrs at current market condition FOR LUMP SUMP INVESTMENT.... my opinion only.

kinda agree with u..but for 100k investment (public mutual gold) can switch for free aite? if market not good reaching GE date can switch to bond funds rite?


waht is ur agent said? how much the return will be?

she said that PIOF is very good and performing..since july till now capital gain already 7%..sounds like bullshit but the quarterly review from prospectus supports the claim


this fund mainly buy small caps comes with high risk high reward.

it is better to hold ur money first until the GE, or as i suggest, start wiht rm1k and top up regularly.

lets say during GE, market crashed, u can top up the balance. not guarantee abt the returns. but 8% compunded p.a is good already eventhough not the best.

8% p.a u stated including cap gain + dividend or what bro?

all the delay with GE is really a headache....fXXk ah jib gor..heheh


suggestion only.
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post Sep 15 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(gracelim2202 @ Sep 15 2012, 07:07 PM)
Pink Spider, thanks for sharing the equity funds type.

If based on the following funds, what do you think about it's strategy?

P Balanced
P Islamic Dividend
P Islamic Mixed Asset
P Islamic Select Enterprises
P Islamic Select Treasures
P Ittikal
P Regional Sector
P Savings

Thanks.
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are u interested in islamic funds? can try research about PIOF & PIOGF..PIEF also good to research..i think kparam77 is good to explain..hehe
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post Sep 21 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:37 PM)
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is it wise to expect cap gain from UT funds now? or shud play it safe with dividend funds..
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post May 20 2013, 03:45 PM

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guys i delved into PM earlier, bought into PIOF around sept last year. after PRU13, PIOF really shooting one. if i lock my profit and sell, got around rm18k profit.

so what are the advise from sifus here? hold till PIOF declare dividend in june? or really realise my gain now? tqvm senseis

p/s: is there cons in waiting for dividends?


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post May 20 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 20 2013, 04:09 PM)
hi  shadow_walker,
I share my mistake , when i move my UT equity fund to BOND fund in 2011.
Becoz kiasu with Euro crisis and bought a condo require emergency reserve for my condo installment.

I may like you enjoying the bull ride with equity fund. Why not wait until world show flu sign then you lock profit at bond fund.

Market crash dont take 1 day to drop till bottom. you still hv 3 month to decide.

Juz my opinion becoz im a greedy  brows.gif investor, you may not follow way.

Im also not any SeeFood but  whistling.gif  water of the day.
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ic, so ur saying i should hold and ride the bull is it?

as i have time to react if the market goes south again. correct?


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post May 20 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 20 2013, 04:24 PM)
yes, you not follow my way.

Juz need to monitor the market untill show flu sign in region you invest.

If you invest in euro fund, then definetly i will suggest to switch now.
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Cool!! thanks bro. makes sense. thumbup.gif

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