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jutamind
post Oct 29 2012, 12:06 PM

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one bad thing about PM annual fund report is that they never list the full list of stocks invested by the fund.

is there anyway we can get the full list of stocks invested by a particular fund?
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post Nov 7 2012, 07:45 PM

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Which PM funds do you sell off and switch to which funds on FSM platform?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 7 2012, 09:02 AM)
hehe - dunno about others but i've just redeemed ALL my cash in my PM mutual fund (except PBOND) and will be transferring at NAV to FSM.
Even with my cost structure as an "insider", cost-wise using cash to buy, FSM's cost is much better (not even taking into account of Silver/Gold discounts yet - add those and i'm even more happy) and with similar performance (no exact matches mar) brows.gif

EPF on the other hand.. still cost & process effective for me to be with PM OR for pure anal-retentive control/options purposes, Amara for self-directed investments.

Just sharing personal POV  notworthy.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 08:59 PM

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wow....that's a massive sell off of PM funds...but i'm glad more and more people support FSM platform. i do hope one day, one fine day, we will have PM hopping onto FSM platform as well.

btw, why do u select BRIC fund, rather than global emerging market fund?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 8 2012, 08:28 PM)
PFEPRF --> AmAsia Pacific REITs
Reasoning:
A semi-REIT fund to a REIT fund, which i was after long time ago, tapi tak de smile.gif

PFES + PRSEC + PAGF --> RHB - GS BRIC EQUITY FUND
Reasoning:
PFES + PRSEC holds bucket loads of China & personally, i've always wanted to do BRIC those yesteryears but PM tak de. Thus, just nice
As for PAGF - aiya, very small % compared to my PFES/PRSEC and left over from yesteryears, thus throw into same pot.

PNREF --> Manulife Global Resources Fund
Er.. no exact match but as similar concept.
This is my 2.5% exposure to "commodities-related stuff" tongue.gif

After moving my cash, i'll be poking my favourite Eugene in FSM about EPF-funded to see if it's worth the "hassle" which i perceive if i do via FSM, instead of PM.
Personally, i find that PM is becoming a "dinosaur" in a customer-driven/friendly world.

Although having some ok & good equity & bond funds
the charges,
red tapes,
speed of response from customer service, agent service, technical service
+ killing off a feature or two from FPAdvisor...
sigh.. seriously gotta re-look into my entire mutual fund approach + for my sis, partner & fellow investing buddies.
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:33 PM

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which emerging market fund are you invested in?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 8 2012, 09:26 PM)
Consolidating to more cost effective and more responsive provider mar.
Not MASSIVE per se, small potatoes only lar compared to the rich folks.

Simple "cost effective" maths - EXCLUDING cost of being an agent + paying for software with some existing functions ripped out when upgraded:
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Why BRIC instead of Emerging Markets?
I'm ALREADY in an emerging market tongue.gif + i've easy enough access to ASEAN markets direct via CIMBA40
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Brazil, India & Russia - i've no easy access to direct equities & info

BTW, i use mutual funds to cover areas which i personally cant access easily directly, nor cost effectively, nor have the time to check every end of day.
That's just my approach - others can differ greatly.
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post Nov 10 2012, 05:04 PM

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I have PSmallCap and PFSF in my PM portfolio. I'm wondering whether i should consolidate into either one of these 2 funds or maintain them as of now.

any PM agents can comment the pros and cons of consolidating or maintain?
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post Nov 20 2012, 04:30 PM

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any good Public series bond fund that is still available for investment?

if i invest in public series bond fund then switch to any other public series equity fund, i have to pay 5.5% + rm25 switching fees?
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post Dec 20 2012, 07:29 PM

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How do i find out my cost of investment in PMO? I know that we can find out our number of units and market value of our PM/PB funds via PMO, but not our cost.

Any feedback is appreciated.
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post Dec 21 2012, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 21 2012, 04:03 PM)
By looking at the MGQP (mutual gold qualifying points); 1 ringgit for each point... on the account details tab within account inquiry...
Hi j,passingby,

Your method doesnt seems right.

1. For bond funds, Total MGQP is always 0. How can i find out the cost of investment for bond funds?
2. Sometime ago, i switched PFES to PFSF. The amount invested after switching is about 7xxx, but in the MGQP for my PFSF, it's shown as 9xxx. If you are saying MGQP is 1 RM 1 point, then the MGQP for my PFSF should be 7xxx, instead of 9xxx.

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post Dec 22 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 21 2012, 11:07 PM)
1. Bond funds. You're right. Buying directly into a bond fund is low-loaded ie. meaning there is no high service charge of 3.0 - 5.5 %. You only incur a low service charge of 0.25%. And no gold points. The cost of the investment is the what you have paid in total.

For example recently I bought 20k at price of 1.2018 per unit and getting 16600.2 units after deduction of rm49.88 as service charge.

After some time, with changes to the unit price, plus dividend (if any) paid out which will change the number of units, it will not be easy to remember what you have paid, but it will be easy to figure out its cost if you always buy in neat round numbers of hundreds or thousands including the service charge; and let PM do the deduction for the service charge and calculate the number of units you are entitled to.

2. Yes, the gold points is 1 ringgit per point. Check your total points again, it should be correct. The total is what you have paid. If not mistaken, the total MGQP is what you paid in total inclusive of the service charge; rm1000 will get 1000 points.

For example, switched out from PNREF into PFEPRF (copied from PMO transaction history)
Fund        NAV          Amt Invested S/Charge Amount Paid (RM) Total Units
PNREF 0.2075 -10,859.91  00.00    -10,859.91 -52,336.92
PFEPRF 0.2862 10,834.91  25.00 10,859.91 37,857.83

The gold points transferred to PFEPRF was 10,860.
Hi,

I've confirmed that my MGQP for each equity fund is not equivalent to the amount i invested/switch over. As per my previous example, i switch over 7k worth of PFES to PFSF but my MGQP is 9k plus. I wonder why.
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post Dec 26 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(chwlim @ Dec 26 2012, 09:32 AM)
Get an investment update from your agent. It is an overall summary of your investment. You can see "Total Amt Paid" column which is indicates the amount you have invested so far.
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Total Amt Paid is per fund or forwhole portfolio?

Problem is my agent has gone awol. I've green self managing my fund all this while
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post Dec 26 2012, 02:22 PM

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Can other agent print out investment portfolio for me?
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(chwlim @ Dec 26 2012, 02:29 PM)
I don't think so, coz customer portfolio should be P&C of every agent.
However I believe you should be able to get the same or similar statement upon your request to PM office.
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i made a call to PM office to get the details.

all these info should be published in the PMO web site. what's the use of web site if such a basic info are not included? not too sure what comes through the minds of those planning for the PMO web site. we're going into 2013 and everything has to go through agent or calls etc....to me, this kind of sucks big time.

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post Dec 27 2012, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 27 2012, 03:51 PM)
PMO == public mutual online.

Once you have the access, you can view your portfolio yourself without going through the agents.

https://www.publicmutualonline.com.my/

You can get or know Total MGQP from:

Account Inquiry>Account Details
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As mentioned before, total mgqp for my funds are not accurate and also there's no Mgqp for bond funds
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post Mar 4 2013, 08:02 PM

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to whom do you provide financial advisory work? and do you need capital market licenses to work as financial advisory?

QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 4 2013, 11:06 AM)
FYI, I plan to contribute towards KWSP untl age 70 or death, which ever comes first. Incidently 70 y/o is the max allowable by law.

This pot of money shall be for my old age use. I do not intend to retire at 55, I am looking at 65 or 70 if health permits.

I have multiple streams of income, and I do not have to rely on my main income (my work) to survive my daily needs. That is why I have good opportunity to save. Hence cash-flow is not an issue with me for the time being.

In case you want to know, my multiple streams come from renting of my shops, my current full time job as a manager, investment income from dividend yielding stocks and some nominal cash-flow from my financial advisory work.

Also, even though I kena tax at the highest tax bracket, I do not own a fancy car, I still drive a MyVi to work and the other vehicle I own is an old Toyota Liteace van.

So, there.... always spend less than what you earn. I advise my clients so, and I walk my talk as well.

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So, what do I do with all these extra cash-flow that I have.

Saving? Done.

Insurance? Done.

Education plan for kid? Done.

My wife and I have decided to use our extra cash for donation such as Hospitals, orphanages, house of worship and schools.

I am not here to brag, please don't think of it this way. I only wish to inspire and to tell folks here that financial planning works. Just be patient with it.
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post Mar 8 2013, 11:43 AM

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what is the better performing PM bond funds that are still available for investment?
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post Mar 8 2013, 02:01 PM

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would it be fair to assume that in your aim for financial freedom, the purchase and renting out of your shop lot is the biggest contributor to your income stream?

QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 8 2013, 01:11 PM)
When I actually focus on it, it took me less than ten years to achieve financial freedom.

And I am just a regular salary working person, I am nothing special.

The pre-requisite ingredients are: Have a sound plan then discipline, discipline and more discipline.

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post Mar 8 2013, 02:21 PM

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thanks for the insight.

in your quest for dividends, i assume that your stock portfolio mainly consist of dividend stocks. do you accumulate such stocks only when the market drops or you do periodic top up of such stocks, be it monthly or quarterly...

QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 8 2013, 02:16 PM)
Rental income as defined under Income Tax Act Sec 4(d) makes up 1/3 of my total aggregate income.

Advisory Fee and dividend combined is roughly 1/4, the rest is employment income.

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so i assume that your monthly expenses is around 50-60% of your monthly gross income, since you have achieved financial freedom.

QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 8 2013, 02:21 PM)
thanks for the insight.

in your quest for dividends, i assume that your stock portfolio mainly consist of dividend stocks. do you accumulate such stocks only when the market drops or you do periodic top up of such stocks, be it monthly or quarterly...
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post Mar 14 2013, 01:19 PM

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where can i get the dividend statement for PM funds? I tried to check on PMO web site but only annual/interim statements are available.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 14 2013, 01:23 PM)
They'll mail the tax receipt to your doorstep.
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what if i dont get some of the dividend statements? can download electronically?

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