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XtraLeoGecko
post Aug 12 2013, 04:52 PM

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Hi all sifus,
I hv just made a switch from all my equity funds to money market fund for the cash investment. Also did the switches for all equity funds in EPF to islamic money market. All this done just before Flitch announced the downgrade. ...

I would like to hv bigger exposure in regional markets / Australia / China due to no confidence in Malaysia currency. ...

May I know which funds n when should I switch back to equity for:
A) cash portion
B) EPF portion

Thx for sharing.

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post Aug 12 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Aug 12 2013, 07:45 PM)
Did what you had just done last year... everything was "doom and gloom", and was completely lost on what to do next, so cut lost, did a retreat and bunker down... live to fight another day!  laugh.gif

The main question is WHEN to get back into battle. I don't think everyone will have the same opinion on the exact moment, the best feng shui time to make the audacious move... so what I did was to take baby steps and tenderly test where the land mines are hidden. Maybe you're different and have the patient to wait and do a coup de grace in one major assault.

As to what vehicles and weapons to employ, the EPF money cannot buy imports. Only made-in-Malaysia ones. Oh, you already knew this... and most likely a lot of other stuff too, since I was not aware that Flitch would unexpectedly made the downgrade before this year's budget... sorry for the long winded post.

But with the ringgit down, it would be more expensive now than several months ago, to buy foreign imports.

Cheers.

PS. Maybe you could get more specify opinions if there is something more specify to discuss.
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Thanks for the sharing, appreciate. Maybe need to wait till UMNU election... then ugly things would all surfaced out at once and a big correction (or true reflection).. then go in sapu gao-gao by EPF...
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post Aug 20 2013, 09:02 PM

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Time to make a big switch to Public Indonesia Select if like to buy low at this country wwhich is less and less exporting maids..??? Comments from sifu, pls....

On the other hand, which would be better now -- Indonesia VS China?

This post has been edited by XtraLeoGecko: Aug 20 2013, 09:04 PM
XtraLeoGecko
post Aug 26 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
okko

explanation here:

if you just leave the fund without doing anything

just after GE13
See prices movement here
http://mutualtracker.com/funds/view/43
6 May 2013,
i switch to PRSF from PIMMF
total units is 280,395.8[COLOR=blue]4 (RM 183,126.52) at 0.6531

if i just let it sit there

10 Jun 2013  at 0.6784 (RM 190,220.53)
25 Jun 2013  at 0.6516 (RM 182,705.92) <--------- drastic drop to estd 1720 KLCI index
22 Aug 2013  at 0.6549 (RM 183,631.23) <----------another drastic drop to estd 1720 KLCI as well.
(As long mutual fund units stay the same, the value is always roughly same)[COLOR=red]

Above is based on my total units of 280,395.84[COLOR=blue]
Question is,
How to do better than EPF?
Just hoping that Malaysia keep going up is not going to work anymore.

On the two date which i incur 0.75% switching fee which cost me RM 1,372.87
23 May 2013 and 14 Jun 2013
My PRSF total units is reduce to 280,334.14[COLOR=green]
( Speculation fail but minimal losses )[COLOR=red]

Just imagine if i just let it sit there hoping for miracle
On 22 Aug 2013,
my portfolio worth only at RM 183,590.82

On 15 August 2013
i decided to switch to PIMMF which incur another penalty at 0.75% (RM 1,398.86)
(PRSF at 0.6823)
i managed to switch back to PRSF at 0.6666
which now total units is 284,977.41
[COLOR=purple]
Now
i have 284,977.41[COLOR=purple] units instead or 280,334.14[COLOR=green]

If the price can go back to my old switching price of 0.6823
my value is now RM 194,440.08 instead of RM191,271.98
Hope you understand when i say
"i am trying to buy LOW and sell HIGH" even though at 0.75% switching fee
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I have to admit I didn't follow your simulation above words by words.... blush.gif but just based on your last 2 paragraphs, you might still made a wrong decision by switching too frequently and incured ~2700 of switching fees. Because in your 2nd last paragraph - even though your total unit is increased, the NAV doesn't. And at your last paragraph, it should be again the NAV that is matter... if you assume the price per unit go back to your initial price with additional total units, you are assuming market is getting good so total NAV has increased from your earlier switching NAV.... But, you have just incured ~RM2700 because of your frequent switching activities..... perhaps other sifu can help here....

My apology if I misunderstood you ya... shocking.gif

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post Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM

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Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager, would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate.

Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance.

This post has been edited by XtraLeoGecko: Dec 21 2013, 11:53 AM

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