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post Oct 4 2012, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 4 2012, 05:14 PM)
i don't care about Mutual Gold benefit..

i still rather WANT lower charges (currently,0.75%) for less than 90 days switching of funds..
Just imagine switching 100k funds...!!!

i have stop investing eversince the blooody ruling.
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u are trading/speculating, NOT investing
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post Oct 5 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 5 2012, 08:33 AM)
Excuse me...
It our money...right?
and they also allow switching online...right??

Tell me...which agent of yours advise you to switch to better fund...??
Mostly ask you to invest and let it grow only..
Get commision and contact you again in few month time to invest further.
Everytime there is a new share selling at 0.25 cents...ask you to buy but when listed always drop below Rm0.25 MOSt of the time.
AND you call this investing????
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Don't need to get all fired up, I'm not a UT agent and not even a PM investor tongue.gif

Trying to beat the market by trading is like gambling at casino, u win some, u lose some, in the long run u lose out.

Just my 1 sen opinion... wink.gif
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post Oct 5 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 5 2012, 09:48 AM)
tell me...what the purpose of investing in mutual fund then?
it also a form of speculating as well.
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I always look at long-term.

I also bought a fund that lost 20%++ within a year sweat.gif
But 4 years later it has made a comeback and now I'm getting annualised returns of 3% (yea not amazing, but from -20% to +12% in 3 years, it's 12% annualised)

U may ask, why I didn't switch out? hmm.gif

I ask back, how sure are you that the next fund can outperform i.e. deliver 12% p.a.? rolleyes.gif

U may end up like my favourite metaphor, u betting dices at casino u bet Big it opened 5 times Small, then u switch to Small and a streak of Big comes. whistling.gif
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post Oct 5 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 5 2012, 10:29 AM)
how sure are you that my fund isn't performing much better eversince i take charge of switching IN and OUt all by myself?
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I only complaint about the switching fee coz it eat into my "earning"!!
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even u trade shares also got brokerage fee, clearing fee and stamp duty for EACH transaction...just live with it.
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post Oct 5 2012, 11:02 AM

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too long no trade shares, forgot already
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post Oct 10 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lsf @ Oct 10 2012, 08:46 PM)
PM sxck... Please check on fund performance 70% of the funds is under perform than benchmark around 10% -30%. Who can explain!? Fund manager sleeping?! PM top management sleeping!? Is our hard earn money... Thinking it might b ponzi scheme like Genneva!?
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u tak suka, u keluar

Plenty of other good fund management houses out there. If u are unhappy with PM performance, get out!

We have Kenanga, Hwang Investment Management, OSK-UOB, among others, all of them won prizes and have funds that outperformed their benchmarks. icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Oct 11 2012, 12:54 AM)
u r mis-leading and u cannot compare UT with gold investment.

how u know FM sleeping? do u hv any insider? or do u work with them.

past performance is not indicative future performance. many ppls investing in underperform funds, because they know waht is UT abt.

educate urself abt UT first.
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and the choice of benchmark also determines how good a fund looks

And then there are index-linked funds available if u are sceptical whether a fund manager can beat the market.

I just can't stand ppl who go around claiming that UTs are scams, those ppl don't know what UT is about and/or did not monitor/review their investments, they think that UTs are like EPF/ASB, year in year out declaring dividends with no risk of losses. shakehead.gif

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post Oct 11 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 11 2012, 10:42 AM)
i believe many people "sweet talk" by agent which is why majority investor are unhappy when funds dip.
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salesman is always salesman

after buy, investors have to take charge, AT THE VERY LEAST monitor once in 3 months. If not right, grill the agent. Not all agents are proactive. If u grill ur agent yet he/she not giving solutions/suggestions to improve, then change agent/fund house.

Too many ppl out there who dump 1 lump sum in UT and just hope for miracles to happen.
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 22 2012, 11:21 AM)
Been droping for the last week, guys investors start selling to lock profit ya. GE comming..
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Even AmDynamic also weak in recent days hmm.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 11 2012, 02:07 PM)
sifus..please help...
im not really into taking risk loh...huhu..fsm a bit dangerous for me then right?
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define "dangerous" hmm.gif

FSM is just a distributor, your investment decisions/portfolio will determine your "risk"
There are lower risk funds
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post Dec 11 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 11 2012, 05:01 PM)
no la...not really scared to invest with an agent tho...just scared if i do myself...any guide given if i wanna invest myself?
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FSM got no agent but they've got very good Client Help and Client Investment Specialists to guide u thru, do give them a call or write e-mail to them to ask for more info. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 12 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ Dec 12 2012, 08:56 AM)
Do you mean if we have account on fsm, we can buy UT with lower sale charge? now for PM, sale charge is 5.5%. so if i reg fsm, i can buy at lower sale charge? if so, its very good for us investor!
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FSM SC range from 0% to max 2%


Added on December 12, 2012, 9:11 am
QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 12 2012, 07:50 AM)
What is blue chip bro? Mind explaining to me? Forex was only a fail try...but i really like it....but to learn new stuff like UT...im really afraid i cant cope...huhu
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blue chip means "big" listed companies with stable and strong business e.g. TNB, Maybank, Public Bank, Genting, BAT etc

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post Dec 16 2012, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:30 AM)
I have purchased the PRSF about few years ago (one time) and now I would like to top up and have the money deducted from my public bank account monthly to purchase the unit trust.

Let say I have RM100 deducted from my account every month and the NAV now is 0.6533. How many units I will be getting after deduction of the service charge?

How is the annual management fee deducted? Is it deducted from the NAV price itself?
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net investment x (1 + Sales Charge %) = gross investment

Assuming SC 5% (I dunno cos I'm no PM client), work backwards
net investment = RM100 / 1.05 = RM95.24

Units u get = RM95.24 / RM0.6533 = 145.78 units

Management fee is already reflected in the daily NAV pricing, so u need not worry about it. wink.gif

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post Dec 20 2012, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(tom_87 @ Dec 20 2012, 01:11 AM)
agreed...but how to learn more on the strategy? mind to elaborate?
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Read read read
Trial and error
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post Feb 23 2013, 04:34 PM

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<launch NAV=good price to go in?

C'mon doh.gif
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post Mar 3 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 3 2013, 12:27 PM)
On Fri, 1/3/2013 KLSE rebounded to 1,637 pts.

I took the chance to rebalance my portfolio to 80:20 in favour of fixed income compared to 50:50 previously.

Favouring cash position in view of the extreme uncertainty with the coming GE-13.

Preparing my war chest ready for barrel fishing later on.

Xuzen
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Mar 3 2013, 06:31 PM)
why not you switch from local equity to foreign based equity? instead of changing it to fixed income?
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^ Second that nod.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 9 2013, 05:23 PM)
Running with the bull... and how not to get trampled?

If you’re holding the right funds (as moi  sweat.gif ), the emotion is high and at the same time, a bit scary too.

(FYI, the fastest horse has clocked 14.9% this year... vs.  -2.0% on a lame horse).

Top-up? Hmmm, scared the bull run will suddenly stop.  hmm.gif

Pull-out?  Hmmm, looks like the bull will keep running, and running, and running...  hmm.gif

So how? Maybe top-up bit by bit, every 2 weeks... and pray that the bull will keep running till it clear the 3-mths switch-out penalty...

What if 3-mths line is not cleared? Just eat the penalty fee lo...  smile.gif  (and hope the fast horse already clear the 0.75% line... LOL  tongue.gif )
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JPB, which fund is the 14%?
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post Mar 9 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 9 2013, 05:50 PM)
"JPB, which fund is the 14%?"

Hi Pink,
Public Indonesia Select Fund

But I don't like this horse... too fast for me, beginner rider... a slower horse fit me just nice; which I mentioned several times in previous posts.
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I liken such fast horse to a cavalry unit in ancient army...

First to charge at the enemy... bruce.gif
Top notch kill rate, 1 cavalry can kill many enemies... flex.gif
...also among the first to die in battle laugh.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 9 2013, 05:42 PM)
one way to die standing too!  laugh.gif

cannot simply throw money on bets like this leh... betting on NAV price alone will sure die standing...

".... touching the lower limit of Bollinger band and when the Fast MA cross the Slow MA from the top. "

Above quote is from a master sifu... 2 pages or so back...

My rookie way is enter when fast moving average crossed slow MA from the bottom and 'ride the bull till I dropped/fainted/scared/whatever'.  tongue.gif
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I told Felix the same too, we simply cannot bet (well, UTs are not for betting at the first place shakehead.gif ) like this, UTs are not like individual stocks where u can employ technical analysis to establish entry/exit points. sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:33 PM)
One word: the service charge is high - 5.5%

Sorry PM agents! Not really want to start a fight!
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Oi, u are the TS for this PM thread for god's sake! laugh.gif

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