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post Aug 11 2012, 10:40 AM, updated 13y ago

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Hello and welcome to the Astro B.yond Episode V thread, Congratulations to all sifus who had contributed to this thread! rclxms.gif
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Links to the previous thread:
Astro B.yond Version I
Astro B.yond Version II
Astro B.yond Version III
Astro B.yond Version IV
Astro B.yond Version V
Astro B.yond Episode I
Astro B.yond Episode II
Astro B.yond Episode III
Astro B.yond Episode IV

Service Fee:
Astro B.yond HD: Installation fee: FREE HD. HD fee: RM20/month*
Astro B.yond PVR: Installation fee: RM300 (existing customers); RM400 (new customers). Recording fee: RM10/month*
Astro B.yond IPTV: CLICK HERE
Astro B.yond VOD: Price may vary per VOD content subscribed.

Extra Note:
Minimum 1mbps internet connection are needed for the VOD service (Astro B.yond IPTV are excluded). Using mobile broadband (e.g. Maxis, Celcom, Digi, U, P1, YES) are not recommended as mobile quota may be used up. QoS service on your router may be needed to reserve minimum bandwidth to your Astro B.yond to ensure smooth VOD experience (TP-Link routers are highly recommended). For PVR users, use the 2nd Ethernet port.

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This post has been edited by azrin_kiko: Aug 11 2012, 05:12 PM
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post Aug 11 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Aug 11 2012, 12:42 PM)
Congratulations !  rclxms.gif

biggrin.gif  Wow... already Episode 5.

After so many years.. Astro is STILL allowed by our government to MONOPOLISE the Satellite TV market ! A win-win situation for the corporate big guns BUT a LOSE-LOSE situation for subscribers. At present, Satellite TV is the ONLY nationwide coverage from Astro with exclusive license.

Without any strong competition, there is practically no choice for consumers. Cable TV competition from UniFi or (A B N which "may" only appear after 2013 or 2014 or 2015 or laterrrrrrr) is only maybe 1 percent of the total nationwide population because of coverage to very tiny areas in big cities only.

The door should be opened for other Satellite TV competitors to enter who can provide fair competition with better much lower subscription prices and better TV content. Since 1996, its already over 15 years of Astro satellite TV monopoly so whatever the reasons, its already time to throw away the satellite TV exclusivity !

Note : Please correct the above quoted text in blue underlined text... from IV to... V.

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post Aug 11 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(shark7 @ Aug 11 2012, 08:47 PM)
Hi
I got prob

My astro is not showing full screen except for HD channel
Its pillar box size
Although i can change the size tu fit to screen
When i change channel it change back to pillar box.. need help
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Hi..

First of all, this is not a problem... You may notice that the old TV is almost square in ratio and LCD TV is wider in ratio than old TV. Most of astro channel is still in old TV ratio... I wonder why many people bear to watch fatter and shorter people in SD... There is a settings -> installation settings in byond.. default PIN is "0000" excluding quotation marks to change it, however it is not recommeded to watch SD channels in stretched mode except if u using plasma TV...

To make u understand.. Tune in to TVB drama "Curse of Royal Harem" simulcast in Zhi Zhun HD and compare it with Astro Wah Lai Toi version... both in full screen...

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HD Channel

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SD Channel with Pillar

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SD Channel stretched

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post Aug 11 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Aug 11 2012, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE(limchee)
http://kbsworld.kbs.co.kr/promotion/201208...conversion.html

KBS World gonna convert to HD on 3 September…
wonder if Astro is going to bring it in?


QUOTE(http://kbsworld.kbs.co.kr/promotion/20120801/hd_conversion.html)
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But who are we going to believe, astro or KBS?
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post Aug 11 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Aug 11 2012, 10:37 PM)
Good question. Assteruk may tell KBS one thing, and do opposite. Maybe KBS HD will be downsampled to widescreen SD or even poorly cropped or letterboxed on the service... Notice what they say on the bottom of image sweat.gif
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Example: NHK world... 24 hours letterbox... sure to use LB expand all the time....


Added on August 11, 2012, 10:46 pm
QUOTE(shark7 @ Aug 11 2012, 10:16 PM)
Sorry if the ques already asked

I feel fit to screen is better than pillar box.. its look very small although looks much sharper but looks to small on 50 tv

Actually by default my astro is fit to screen
But today i dunno what my dad buy ..astro come to my house and install another astro upstairs
Meaning now i got 2 astro byond decoder and 2 astro remote ..but i guess they change my old decoder n remote downstairs..

Maybe if i change channel downstairs,upstairs will also change channel or maybe its completely two different astro.. but dunno ..

I saw the receipt and its FOC .. hurm..

Anyway thanks guys..prob solved

Oh..and also i have prob with astro remote like if i press +(volume) on astro the volume will be high only a little..if press - also decrease alittle..

This is annoying bcause i play ps3 with my panasonic tv 20+ volume i use..but if astro i need turn volume up to 45+ only can hear ..so when i change back to ps3 ..volume45 is like so loud already..

But at my village the + - volume on astro remote works perfectly.. so just wondering its my tv or astro..
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Maybe you are experiencing windowbox effect...

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post Aug 14 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Xtm_Flounder @ Aug 14 2012, 09:30 PM)
Hello everyone. I just got b.yond box from astro today (non-HD non-PVR subscription). it is the only replacement for our kaputed old decoder. I noticed there is USB port at the back of the b.yond decoder.

Are there other purpose or abilities other than PVR recording?
eg. USB Bluetooth dongle, wireless usb hub, Image viewing, play Mp3 or MP4 on Usb stick.
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U can use it for charging yr smartphone that can be charged via usb/// biggrin.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(m_imrun @ Sep 2 2012, 04:00 AM)
Actually, this is not a good news at all. Do you know why the History HD suddenly has subtitle while the others don't?
This is because the channel is not HD. Its just an upscale from the sd feed, since it is now broadcast in 16:9 view.
There are alot of pixelation. This also explain why the sd and the hd are broadcast simultanously. WTF Astro. Trying to cheat us again.
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FYI, astro is the provider of the feed for History, CI and BIO...

Technically, astro was able to crop the 16:9 feed to 4:3 BUT most of History's tv shows are NOT 4:3 title safe, they have no choice but to letterbox it instead. Notice the History logo was within 4:3 title safe?
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post Sep 3 2012, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(m_imrun @ Sep 3 2012, 04:28 PM)
Actually, I was complaining about the History HD channel being replace with an up-scaled History SD channel. Not about the new History SD broadcast feed.
I'm sure the current History HD is not and HD since there is no HD logo beside the channel logo. But I have to admit, some of the programs are decent thought, the older programs are obviously up-scaled.

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Old History HD channel

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The new History HD channel
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you're half wrong, it is not upscaled in the whole.. History HD now the main channel, all shows will be broadcasted in HD and for SD programmes, it will be upscaled... based on my observation, channel 555 is the SD version of history HD downscaled and letterboxed to SD... it is not necessary for channels to put HD text beside their tv logo. Take example KBS world now.. the tv logo shows 'HD' but the feed is SD.. it is because KBS world feed is HD but astro downscaled and cropped to 4:3 to SD...


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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Sep 3 2012, 04:56 PM)
Maybe History HD Asia new logo should've been shifted more, to:
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(History (HD) Japan Channel)
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For the History logo, the logo is within 14:9 safe area...

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post Sep 4 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Sep 4 2012, 08:43 AM)
@ milesandmore  - a fren here in SIN was watchin 'Music Bank' yesterday n mentioned quality was very bad, VCD quality. Seems like a problem with KBS themselves.

Somemore pixs, hope Astro can change their mind. Cheers.
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let's pressure astro kaw kaw to bring KBS World HD...
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post Sep 6 2012, 02:27 AM

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The PVR updated itself just now after i've put it on standby..

Please go to
Settings -> your settings -> network preference

got option between ethernet and wifi...
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post Sep 6 2012, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Sep 6 2012, 07:40 AM)
The "Wi-fi" option one is good, considering it's easier to set it up. (For me) nod.gif[attachmentid=3035547]
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but the question is does the pvr has a built in wifi adapter or need external wifi adapter to work?
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post Sep 8 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(krel89 @ Sep 8 2012, 10:26 AM)
i don't know la why astro have so much difficulties to add and improve their channel line up... maybe they need major upgrade...
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i think they're already upgraded.. It's the customer's decoders are need to be upgraded.. because old decoder can't support MPEG4...
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QUOTE(krel89 @ Sep 8 2012, 12:01 PM)
old decoder?? u mean the silver and black one???
byond can support???
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yes, ye olde black and silver one...
Byond supports the latest video compression tech...
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post Sep 15 2012, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Sep 15 2012, 07:35 PM)
They should put an animated border around the corner like some UK/Europe channels are doing with upscaled transmission. Sure, it's a bit annoying, but at least the screen won't suffer persistence with two horizontal bars on the side if your TV is left on the channel for too long.
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In Disney XD, there should be no problem with persistence because every commercial break confirm it is in HD, i'm more concerned with NHK and History SD as the channel is 24 hours letterboxed...

And another thing,

Astro Malay division should learn from chinese and sports division regarding 4:3 title safe. because most malay programmes in HD when cropped to 4:3 with text displayed, the text will be cropped as well. And don't malas to crop to 4:3 HD programmes that is 4:3 title safe like Astro Oasis's 'Insya Allah Ada Jalan', Astro Bella's Mexican Telenovela and Inhouse programmes like karoot komedia x, masterchef malaysia and so on....

Finally

Media Prima is way too backwards in HD programming...

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Sep 15 2012, 09:10 PM)
Eh, don't need to talk about HD with them - even digital they dun really want to adopt.
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I'm LOLed when watching Melodi on sunday, they edit the 4:3 footage and streched it to fit 16:9 line, then when broadcasted, the 16:9 is letterboxed... SO NOOB of TV3... now watching propaganza instead, at least they know how to handle their show correctly
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Sep 15 2012, 10:22 PM)
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DisneyXD HD Channel 637. The above screenshot shows the malay movie "Cicak-Man" with English and Malay audio (09:05 pm 15-09-12).

LOL !!! First... they took a 16:9 widescreen movie, letterboxed it and broadcast in SD on Ch 617 . Second... they took this directly from Ch 617, upscaled it to HD and then broadcast it on Ch 637... and they even put a HD text on top left... what a joke... what are they trying to do ???? What the F.... ! My TV screen seem to have been "reduced" in size with black borders at all the sides.
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You're are wrong actually... Disney obtained Cicak Man's videotape from KRU, the 16:9 movie is already letterboxed to 4:3 in the tape. Disney XD HD played the tape and pillarboxes are added. THat is why there are windowboxes in the HD channel..


FYI, Disney XD ch 617 is taken from the HD feed but cropped to fit 4:3 frame.... but from my observation, when in commercials. they scaled the hd feed to 4:3 cropped. but after commercials, they switched back to letterboxed 4:3.. but in 4:3 show, the scaler will crop the HD feed to 4:3.. it is an automated process...

KRU as yet to copy Cicak Man from film sources to HD... so the movie delivered to Disney is already letterboxed..
If disney obtained Cicak Man in HD, they will adjust the video to make the text 4:3 compatible.

The 'HD' logo is to inform viewers that they still tune in to HD version of Disney XD.. hope all of u will understand

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Sep 15 2012, 10:59 PM)
This is the best joke of the year and Malaysia Day's eve.
Assthrow Boleh!!!
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This is not astro's job ok... it's from Disney themselves...

And..

Please be reminded that the SD version of Disney XD is taken from the HD version...

Disney can crop the movie but due to save Disney's cost to lease satellite capacity and to save the hassle to have to seperate feeds for HD and SD, this has to be done.... this is normal in transitional period from sd to hd... and another thing, cicakman is NOT 4:3 safe....
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Sep 15 2012, 11:21 PM)
Yes, I already knew that there are already many program materials which are from SD source and broadcast as HD feed. Case in point is the KIX HD ch 729 which do show many movies from SD source eventhough the KIX HD channel is actually from HD feed.... but at least KIX HD zoomed many of such "SD letterboxed shows/movies" to the proper 16:9 size so that there are no black left/right borders !

I agree that you have pointed correctly that the "Cicak-Man" have not yet been transferred from film to HD format and also that the Ch 637 is from HD feed. However... maybe I am the only one who is so picky or fussy but I believe (whether automated process or not) that it really looks very ugly to me to see black borders on all sides... and in my personal opinion... should not have used automated process and increased (zoom) the size at the correct ratio so that only top/bottom borders are seen, no left/right borders on DisneyXD HD ch 637.

If the "HD" text logo at the top left is intended to let viewers know that the Channel 637 is in HD, then I would have preferred that they put this "HD text" next to the "DisneyXD" logo like what usually is done for other HD channels such as HBO HD, Fox Movies Premium HD. When Astro changed the History HD channel feed, the "HD" is now missing from the "History" logo. Whatever... not important for me whether the HD channels show the "HD text" because, obviously I already knew that I have switched to an HD channel.

In my personal opinion, putting the "HD text" in a different area of the screen somehow (I think) lead viewers to believe that the program/show is from HD (720p/1080i) source. If according to your opinion that the "HD text" at top left is to inform viewers that DisneyXD Ch 637 is HD channel... then please explain why the "HD text" is missing when DisneyXD HD Ch 637 is showing "Ultimate Spider-Man" (11:05 pm 15-09-12). Sometimes showing the "HD text" logo and sometimes not is pretty confusing, don't you agree ?

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Actually KIX HD is my not so a favourite channel because of all stretching of 4:3 programmes but what i dislike the most is they even don't even care to crop some programmes that are made in 16:9 but letterboxed to 4:3, thus, leaving the letterbox and stretch the programme, what the heck are they thinking?

I understand as many malaysians dont care about whether their favourite channel is in HD or not, but some people will complain about "why the picture in this HD channel is so blur?" so maybe Disney XD done that to tell viewers that nothing wrong with their TV, it is just old programmes that are not available in HD...

About the HD branding, please refer to previous posts, why KBS world removed the HD logo? because SD viewers complaining that the picture are not in HD, so why bother to put the HD logo if it is not in HD? They feel "cheated". KBS World is also one of the SD channels that sources at HD feed, but downscaled to SD.... like history and Disney XD...

I'm still convince that Disney XD put HD logo to tell viewers that they're watching Disney XD in HD and maybe to 'tell' the scaler to crop the 16:9 feed to 4:3. If Disney XD put HD logo beside their logo, sure SD people complain "why this channel has HD but it is not! Liars!"

Just my 2cents... smile.gif happy watching...

P/S Believe it or not, many people don't even know what HD means. Think, People with CRT TV will not notice the difference between SD and HD channels. when they saw a channel with HD logo in it and compares it with SD channel they will think. "Why this channel has HD text when the gambar quality is same with other channel?" that's the case with KBS... They think this is a false advertisement

BREAKING NEWS.. Confimed that HD logo of Disney XD are not meant for viewers but to the automatic scaler to crop the feed to fit 4:3.. just watch 'Kickin' it'

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Sep 23 2012, 02:42 AM)
some forummers said that the History HD has now become a simulcast of History SD Ch555, but why ch555 has now become letterbox format, where it used to be in full 4:3 format

just wondering
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well even before the simulcast started, most programmes in history are mostly letterboxed except some programmes and commercials

OTOH,,

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We hope that we will have 25 HD channels by the year end.

DATO' ROHANA ROHZAN

Let's see if there is 25 overall HD channels by the year end... And guess what the channels will be...

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