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 IGB REIT, worth to buy?

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prophetjul
post Nov 2 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Nov 2 2012, 09:44 AM)
i believe the assumption of RM4 is conservative and the actual rental should be higher. (i must think positive).
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Alo.......if Rm4 is conservative, then the CIMB assumption of rent GROWth will be LOWer........... nod.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Nov 4 2012, 04:06 PM)
if expires it will definately a good news.
Normal rental agreement after expiry Landlord is allowed to increase/ review new rental rate. Next year there is about 30%++ of tenant agreement expires, a good news to wait.
Very likely everyone will renew contract with a higher rate.
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Really depneds on the marketability of Mid V.
Just because the expiry comes means good news.
If global recessssion comes, which it still may, how owuld that affect spending power and mall rentals?
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post Nov 6 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Nov 6 2012, 08:26 AM)
Rental Agreement signed and lock in few years, should provide a good cushion. if a recession such as 1997 Asian Financial Crisis we are sure will be hit.
i believe the next round of financial crisis is not on Asian, most likely is Europe.
(my personal view lar)
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TRY China.......its slowing down.
CPO price is coming down......Indo is prodcuing more...less exports


Agreement signed means nothing when companies go bust. 30% rental expiry is pretty high.
So really depends on the marketability of Mid v with so many malls in KL.


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post Nov 6 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 6 2012, 09:53 AM)
Hi prophetjul;

Dont worry ...MV and GM 30% doesnt depent on single tenant. 
Yesterday is tenant to Brand A;Tomorrow can easy replace by Brand B.
Must understand the crowd(Support from 33m footfall a year) inside spending time and money at MV and GM.
So many variety Business eagerly to marketing product inside for the customer.
Recession or Financial Crisis cannot avoid if they come didnt meanz you dont need to buy grocery and buying thing for festival(comming Deepavali) ?
(Juz less spending or Dont increase Rental)
MV target audience is low and middle income while GM looking at high income.

I dont see why MV and GM dont have ppl inside the mall compare other mall.
Too much worry in Reits better keep in FD, my 2 cent...

Im a Investor i dont use my whole $$$ inside stock(2/3) and keep 1/3 my portfolio in FD.
Worry too much is gambler; backing the captial apprication for return in short term same like investing High risk stock.
Recession or Slow down ; my opinion the Outside Shop Lot impact becoz it depend the customer to walk in to buy stuff to support their business compare shop in the mall. (my 2 year experince of working inside the mall(selling jeans) and shop lot(family grocerry shop) during schooling time)

Everyday i bait @1.30;.......

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Hi

its really about positive or negative Income growth. REITs are about that.
This REIT is presently all about MV, not much else.

30% expiry is pretty high. You wont get postive rent growth in all of that. If its too high, they will move.
Not all are high end. In fact as you mentioned MV is about middle income.
So the question is will there be growth in their income to justify the stock price?

At Rm1.25, the div yield is only around 5%........

So question is how will they increase their income so that DPU can increase as well?
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Nov 6 2012, 12:24 PM)
Hi Bro,
I believe as a investor into stock market must have a positive view or else better not invest into it.
Example if you see that the div yield is only around 5%, meaning the share price is too high for you to go in.
Maybe you wanna wait patiently and bait it at 1.20 ? .... this is your strategy and what you want, no right or wrong...

Personally i still trust that 30% expiry on tenancy agreement meaning will have increase in rental,
just whether how high is the renewal rate and is there enough people in waiting list to take up the units if existing tenant wanna move out.
Investment is surely comes with risk.. hope you are not offended of my comment.  notworthy.gif
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No offence.......this is a public forum...unless no sense in the arguements.

BUT do you have any info whether theres a longggggggggg queue for the shoplots?

Investment comes with risk, but not blind risk.
Risk can be quantified and then Decisions made upon that.

5% is too low for me.....whereas SREITs give higher DPUs plus NO withholding tax of 10%.

So comparing IGB Reits and SREITs i would prefer the later.
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QUOTE(jjsia @ Nov 6 2012, 01:37 PM)
Which Sg brokerage firm are you using? Thx
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i am not.....cross border so far. .....brokerage is killing! sad.gif

i pan to visit SChartered in Dec to fond out more...
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post Nov 6 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(jjsia @ Nov 6 2012, 01:49 PM)
Do they charge you admin fees for receiving your E-Div?
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Yessssss mad.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 07:49 AM

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felix

Nice writeup


QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 6 2012, 03:15 PM)
I agree IGBreits offer only 5% compare other Reits.
I choose IGBreits compare other mall as below:
1)  Location & Portfolio reits
    Becoz i residing KL now. Every month i bring wife go MV & GM window shoping.
    Compare other mall at penang and kuantan, i cant see the crowd.
    Queenmall in penang is good but im not at penang to see the business there.
    As investor i dont relies at broker report ; i prefer to see/monitor the business more secure.

Compare Singapore? Orchard road is packed most days

2) Corporate/Office strategic working place
    Some corporate also there beside targetting the houswife- working class spending the meal and shopping there after work.
    I dont see why it cant capture audience inside. I hv friend working at Mid Valley; can be my spy of the ppl and traffic.
    I worry less of Midvalley footfall( Prev I work at Bangsar - collegue and I having lunch there especially Friday).
    Occasion i have collegue farewell and family gathering at there.

3)  Competition fairness & Long term
    Hektar dividend better than IGB reits. One of the mall is Center Point (Sungai Petani)  from my hometown- yes i agress the  mall can give higher dividend- but the mall is too old can be easy replace by other new mall as they is plenty land can develop
compare KL area.

5) Jam with traffic - if no tenant also the parking fee also can generate income to the Reits. The parking fee not high and no low low parking fee can be steam as income with the parking space there. IGBreit dividend can paid the parking fee what i given.

i agree with this. Had a firend who worked with MV before. If memory serves, they ahve approx 11,000 parking bays.They have 3
trueovers daily during weekneds...thats like RM20 p bay.  tHats  Rm220k daiy over weeekends...not sure about weekdays.




I have other Reits that i hold and dipose based my 2 cent thinking. 
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Why MREITs and not SREITs? smile.gif

My SREITs pay me average 8.5% yield(i am a late comer to REITs) without any Taxes.....Anyone? smile.gif


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post Nov 7 2012, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 7 2012, 08:58 AM)
Sadly no time to travel there anymore to open account SG CDS for cheaper broker rate. 

Hi <prophetjul>
Hv you open the CDS account as SG?    drool.gif
Need ur advice how to open account there.  notworthy.gif
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i will be visiting in Dec. Will find out then.

BUT there is some written about the brokerage in SREITs thread........go visit! thumbup.gif


Added on November 7, 2012, 9:02 amHere.......

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...21&hl=Singapore

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Nov 7 2012, 09:02 AM
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post Nov 7 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 7 2012, 09:06 AM)
Good morning prophetjul and IGBreit investor.
Thanks you very much ...once you done....need your sharing expeience    notworthy.gif
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i dont own any igb. For the matter, i dont own any MREITs.......can find a reason ........yet. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 7 2012, 09:13 AM)
Morning prophetjul,

flex.gif What stock you holding now? mind to share...
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Msia

Panamy
Bstead
Ptaras
Riverview


Singapore

AIMSAMP
Sabana
Cambridge
Chinaminzhong
MarcoPolo


USA

SPDR Gold Shares
ProShares Ultra Silver
Yamana Gold
Silver Wheaton
Silvercorp Metals
Aurcana
Mcewen Mining
Golden Star Resources, Ltd.
Pinetree Capital Ltd.

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post Nov 7 2012, 09:39 AM

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Guys

Pls blush.gif


i am oso learnin at 50 years young! smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 7 2012, 09:43 AM)
Do you monitor the stock everyday or reading company Fianancial statement....
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Both..........and read ANYThing for possible TiPS...... smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 7 2012, 08:05 PM)
Which online trading platform do you use to buy US & SG shares?
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SG

Through Msian Stock broker cross border

US

Just2trade
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post Nov 7 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 7 2012, 09:00 PM)
What the fees to use Just2Trade? Why dont u use this platform to buy SG stocks instead? How to transfer $ to your Just2Trade trading account and any charges for funds transfer?
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Just2trade is US based broker. Cant use for SG stocks.
Fund transfer use bank TT


Added on November 7, 2012, 10:03 pmGo to US stocks trade for more info

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post Nov 8 2012, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(H86 @ Nov 7 2012, 10:24 PM)
What happened to IGB Reit?
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Over valued perhaps?
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post Dec 31 2012, 12:22 PM

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Still Rm1.33............
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post Jan 1 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 31 2012, 12:53 PM)
Me queue @1.33 didnt get any fish  cry.gif
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dont wor, you have the whole year......i would queue at 1.25..........for ao overpriced reit
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post Jan 2 2013, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Jan 1 2013, 02:15 PM)
i also queue at 1.33 didnt get anything  cry.gif  the promo brokerage fees from M+ also expired d.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Dont worry.....1.25 will come... smile.gif

There are other better Reits at this time.............
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jan 2 2013, 09:29 AM)
remind me National Geographic tag:

"Ones mans junk is another man's treasure "
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/abandoned/
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Too true......but thats artifects, not the stock mkt.... biggrin.gif

Too much junk can make you sick- Anon

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