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post May 14 2019, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ May 14 2019, 09:29 AM)
Sooooo????
KPDNHEP is there to discharge their duties..

all conduct in civil manner..
if McOcean indeed a honest company....
would KPDNHEP even want to come and do investigation?

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Ya, investigate.
See what happens ...
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post May 29 2019, 02:40 PM

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I only Mahu Clarify saja.
Not to do commercial, or advertising for company.
Harap Forum jangan Konfuse ,

I respect Forum Rules & Regulations...
No Spamming,
No Defamatory remarks,
No Inflammatory statements,

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post Jun 7 2019, 12:36 PM

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I Konfuse,
McOcean got license what, is legit...

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post Jun 7 2019, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Kaityln @ Jun 7 2019, 05:56 PM)
Are you born stupid or got stupid after joining McOcean?

McOcean licence got revoked by DSAM! We never even mentioned KPDNHEP, you dumbass.

Although it's just a matter of time KPDNHEP also takes away the licence. But thank you for posting this for me, I was looking for this 😘
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Adoi,
I Konfuse,
You also dump dump, without glasses,
I TAK mention DSAM pun, I said AJL License , by KPDN.
Aiyo, Konfuse...
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post Jun 14 2019, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jun 14 2019, 11:17 AM)
Allow me to requote what Mr Mc Ocean, McOfficial posted earlier.

Care to comment on the contradiction, Mr Mc Ocean?
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Freedom of speech and expression, should not be recognized as being absolute.
It is with limitations or boundaries to libel, slander, obscenity, sedition, incitement, etc.

Ini saya TAK Konfuse…
Jaga jaga kita punya ayat lah...
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post Jun 14 2019, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(luzdeexpo @ Jun 14 2019, 01:47 PM)
It is simple, these McOcean ppl :-

- CANNOT HANDLE THE REALITY
- CANNOT ACCEPT CRITICISM

REALITY

- They focus on recruitment.
- The will use fancy terms like INDIRECT SALES/ NETWORK FRANCHISING
- Products are way TOO overpriced to be sold, which is why members cannot
  do retailing and forced to find PROSPECTS to become STOCKIST under the
  Star Premier program, they promote in the HOW

CRITICISM

- Questionable and unethical tactics to collect private information of their
  member's friends and family and sharing it to other members.
- Smoke and mirrors (Wayang Kulit)
  Why the show - Fire Your Boss / Money Mind
  Why the tee up ? Why shout Fu-Yoh after each tee-up point
- Psychological tricks
  Team events with people in the same background as prospect
    Why they keep saying "Betul, Correct, Tui"
    Why is everybody so friendly and care about you ? All fake concern
    Why are they so persistent after ABP & HOW to get you commit by putting
    down money ?

The facts speak for themselves.

You cannot hide the truth,

and these assholes CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH !

Wake up, please.... How long can they run this charade ?

In time the LAW and KARMA will catch up.

All existing members, leave while you can with any shred of dignity you have.

Anyone newly introduced, run far away and do not entertain these liars.

To those brainwashed and in denial, look closely at your so-called KP/PP,
do they do what they preach ?
Is their life really better ?
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Yeah,
I think this is constructive comments, no contains inflammatory or libelous remarks.
I pasti kompani akan baca ....
Ini saya TAK Konfuse...
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post Jun 19 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Genji Shimada @ Jun 19 2019, 05:46 PM)
From the way I look, it seems like mcocean is totally different from what you guys are talking?

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Aiyo, I Konfuse.
This post displaying Kompani do good CRS what...
Then, why MWW accuse "censor it if it doesn't suit the agenda" hypocrisy.??
Why I see also many pro-Mcxxxxx kena removed...?? confused.gif
Posts hentam Kompani kena remove you say hypocrp....lalahyo
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post Jun 21 2019, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 21 2019, 09:45 AM)
I have a green something, but its not an invoice. It is a delivery order. That was all the introducer gave me.

And bloody hell, what type of retarded policy is can't return to MC Ocean but have to deal with introducer. What type of direct selling company would practise this type of bullshit
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As far as I know,
The Buy Back Policy, two important dates will be referred,
1) Date of Registration as Distributor member with the Company.
2) Date of Invoice (products purchased date).

For your case, what is your date of registration as Distributor member in the company?
Can call company to check.
Your upline may try to hide something from you.
Report to company. Since every body knows company people is watching this tread, i am sure they will read this.
Ini saya Tak Konfuse...
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post Jun 21 2019, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.World Weary @ Jun 21 2019, 10:16 AM)
Green invoice is for SP/ rm35000 stockist. You are GP, settle with your introducer and question him 99 referring the facts revealed here. Looking forward to your story.  tongue.gif
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If GP, still can go to company to return products purchased.
Date of Registration will be the date of reference.
Check with Company.

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post Jun 24 2019, 01:01 PM

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I already say on 29/5.
This is the correct SPGB.
1800BV repeat sales requirement is clearly stated.

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post Jun 28 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Jun 28 2019, 05:10 PM)
Anyone can look this up on MYEG and RILEK.com.

McOcean publicly displays their business registration number as well.
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Aiyo, I Konfuse.
No Need to korek company number what.
SSM number n AJL Must always be displayed on official document.
Like last month their Notice....got the number already lah
Aiyo, Konfuse... confused.gif

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post Jul 1 2019, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsim @ Jun 28 2019, 11:21 PM)
Yo i just pay for member fees after see much of your comment I decide not to go stage 3 thanks guys
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2019, 03:53 PM)
As of today I have terminated my membership as a GP at Southgate Level 5.

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Yalo, memebr fee hanya RM130 saja ...
Mana ada Konfuse... confused.gif

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post Jul 1 2019, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.World Weary @ Jul 1 2019, 04:25 PM)
don't bother attending to that troller, just report under Spamming business.

He deserves that.
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AH, like that also can.
Say something different from you, then you accusing me Spamming.
How about yu guys ?
You say Freedom of Expression ?
So, I just mahu clarify WRONG perception by you guys....
Bukan mahu spam biz.
I Respect Lowyat Forum R&R.
No Spamming for Business.
NO Malicious and Inflammatory remarks.
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Ini saya TAK Konfuse.

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post Jul 1 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jul 1 2019, 04:55 PM)
Yeah, it is like that. You also accuse us for defaming your precious Mc Ocean right?

Take a look at the mirror first before judging others ya.

I still confuse oh, you say Mc Ocean members have to pay 1800 BV Every Month for maintenance, HOW MUCH IS 1800 BV IN RINGGIT YA?

Ini saya masih Konfuse.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Ah, you masih Konfuse ah ?
I tot yu said are EX Ckp ?
You Dont know ah, ?
Or pretend dont know , tell WRONG info to downline ?
Then blame company did not tell you.
Saya punya upline semua tahu, semua ada bagi tahu.

Mahu explain different between BV and PV here in the Forum , then MWW say is spamming?
How ? Saya Konfuse
Saya RESPECT Lowyat.net Forum R&R.
Amway , other way, anyway, Kosway...
All got these concept, PV, BV, CV etc....
You dun know ah.... confused.gif
Saya Konfuse.

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post Jul 2 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jul 2 2019, 11:53 AM)
Tak faham oh, masih konfuse. Boleh ulang ah?

Atau tak berani cakap?
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Adoi,
Bukan TAK berani cakap.
We Must Respect LY Forum R&R lah.
No Spamming, No Malicious Inflammatory remarks.
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Saya sudah cakap, IF I go into details, then this Tak Syok MWW will report me as spamming biz.
OK. I try.
Ener369, Member Price=RM351, BV=369, PV=369,
Enertri, Member price=RM288, BV=288, PV303,
Ener Milk Tea, Member price=RM30.40, BV=16, PV=32,
If I upload Product Order Form, CAN or not ? Isit spamming or not ?
Then,
You sendiri kira 1800BV lah,
Like that also cannot ah.
If go into details explanation, is like marketing plan talk already.
Then, this angry MWW will report me spamming.
I cannot tahan...
Konfuse... confused.gif icon_question.gif
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post Jul 2 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jul 2 2019, 12:35 PM)
Aiyo you twist the facts again, I lagi konfuse.

Show me so many RM, PV & BV I mana faham?

You answer my question then is respect Lowyat R&R la, you write like this where got respek, more like promoting MLM now... Aiyo Konfuse betul.

So back to my question again...

How much is Mc Ocean Maintenance EVERY MONTH, 1800 BV = RM ???? every month ya?

Also so you admit that EVERY MONTH Mc Ocean member need to pay Maintenance of 1800 BV only can get income la?


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.This is NOT the issue to Admit or not.
From day 1 company starts MLM biz, company already very CLEARLY explain the concept and requirement of Monthly Repeat Product Sales (maintenance sales). under the approved marketing plan.
Company never hide.
My upline KP also very clearly trained my group.
So, you also admit your group (including you) did NOT properly brief your group.
Or, intentionally hiding this from your downlines.
So, you want to blame company hiding this concept, or you yourself and you upline try to hide ???
Sendiri yang tak cakap, blame company try to hide.
So, BUKAN you mana tak faham.
YOU sengaja cakap tak mahu faham, ada udang di belah batu…
Saya Konfuse.
Yang saya tahu, kalau upline try to hide or block downline from doing monthly repeat products sales(maintenance), downline complained to company, company will take action, bagi Show Cause Letter. Saya ada satu downline Star Premier pun sudah kena Show Cause, sebab Sengaja Tak inform downlines.
Ini I TAK Konfuse. icon_rolleyes.gif

Kalau You mahu tahu, OK, I try here explain. Ini presentation from my upline KP last time when I joined as member.
TAPI, you orang jangan report saya punya Post as spam.
So, To LY Admin, what I explain here bukan tujuan saya mahu spam.
Sebab GeekGoblin confuse, tak faham, mahu saya explain.
If kena report and remove, jangan salahkan saya. OK ? blink.gif
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PV= point value, used for moving up ranking.
BV= bonus value used for calculating products sales commissions.
A distributor member buys products (according to their needs) and accumulate PV to move up ranking.(No Time Period of when to move up ranking)
Different products has different PV & BV. A distributor member buys according to his needs.
Monthly Products Repeat Sales(maintenance) is the products sales amount that a distributor member (SP and above) is required to achieve in order to qualify for sales commissions for that bonus period.
Monthly Products Repeat Sales(maintenance) is NOT required for Overriding Bonus(Group Bonus).
Overriding Bonus arises because of differential in ranking % between upline and downlines.
So, Other than Overriding bonus, other types of sales commissions require Monthly Products Repeat Sales to qualify for monthly sales commissions.

So, 1800BV= RM ? (depends on WHAT products you purchased)
So, how to calculate bagi you ??? confused.gif :
Sebab, i tak tahu what products you mahu buy ?
Saya Konfuse ??
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post Jul 2 2019, 03:16 PM

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ah , see, see,
I sudah know already.
GG will purposely TWIST my post....
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So, TO LY Admin,
I upload product order form here to CLARIFY my point.
NOT to spam biz.
If you remove my post, then on fair ground,
Must also Remove GeekGoblin Post too.
then only fair game of Freedom of Expression of Opinion.
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post Jul 3 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Cherry guardians @ Jul 3 2019, 10:33 AM)
Can someone please explain how Steady Dynasty nature of business is DORMANT!

Furthermore, you need to display old name under the new company name for a period of 12 months. For example: New Company Name Sdn. Bhd.  (Formerly known as Old Company Name Sdn. Bhd.) As per SSM requirement. Don't see MIDEA anywhere in the SSM as you have changed names.
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Ahh, good question. At least someone care to ask a valid question seeking for CORRECT answer.
Rather than like GG & MWW simply hentam and bagi WRONG answer and misrepresentation. and pretend sendiri konfuse... devil.gif
They are the one, so called ex member ex cKP…bla bla…give WRONG answers, or their irresponsible uplines pass down to them, and dare NOT feedback to company. Scare company take actions against them, because they also tell WRONG info to downlines, and dare NOT face the truths to their own downlines ???
Then cabut, blame company ??? confused.gif
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OK, let me explain jelaskan.
BUT, to LY Admin, again.
Saya BUKAN mahu spam biz yah.
ONLY want to explain a point raised here. If you remove my Post, then on fair ground again, MUST also remove Cherry guardian & GeekGoblin punya post. Because she raised a point which is WRONGLY interpreted and goreng hentam by GG. Saya just mahu CORRECT it.
Freedom of Expression of Opinion. NO malicious intention, No Inflammatory remarks, NO Spamming Intention.
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OK, CORRECT Cerita is like that.
MIDEA= McOcean Independent Distributor & Entrepreneurs Alliance.
This is a business centre, for members to meet, mingle around, talk to friend, training places… It is like any other commercial business centre concept.
SO, you will never find the name MIDEA in SSM.
Like, McD, can you find the name McD in SSM ??? No, you can only find the franchise company name in SSM who is operating the McD. Same like KFC….etc. Like CafĆ© ABC, but may owned by XYZ Sdn Bhd. Can you find CafĆ© ABC in SSM ?? Can you accuse CafĆ© ABC cover up ??? Saya banyak Konfuse. confused.gif
See, you guys like GG & MWW, so TAK TAHU, but buat tahu, simply snegaja give WRONG info. Bukan kah ini MALICIOUS Intention ??? blink.gif
Saya Konfuse…. rclxub.gif
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WORST, then go into giving WRONG info about monthly products sales commission been paid to MIDEA, Sd etc, then pay out by them to members…NONSENSE, like that also can, you guys are the one LIE.
If you guys claim to be ex members, look at your bank statement carefully, the monthly sales commission are DIRECT Credited into your bank account by McOcean, NOT any other company, by bank ePayment system.
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MIDEA business centre is operated by a company registered in SSM.
Saya tak nak go into spamming business into this company. Respect LY forum R&R.
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GG & MWW are the guys sengaja confuse, dan buat you orang confuse. sad.gif
Ini Saya TAK Konfuse….
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post Jul 3 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kaityln @ Jul 3 2019, 11:53 AM)
Then why in the last few HOW events especially after the KPDNHEP raids, partners are asked to bank in the RM138 money to attend HOW to E MNU Worldwide Sdn Bhd?

If MIDEA/SD is only "a business centre, for members to meet, mingle around, talk to friend, training places" as you claim?
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Ahh...Good Question.
At least you guys really sit down and wanna listen the CORRECT info, rathen then read post by GG & MWW whihc are malicoius and goreng goreng kuat kuat hentam saja, TAK pakai Otak...
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BUT,
Let me quote LY Forum R&R, and the Remider at the Top of panel,
Quote:-
- Strictly no advertising in this section
- The posting of any MLM, get-rich-quick, referral programs, pyramid schemes, unlicensed forex is strictly prohibited here and anywhere else in Lowyat.NET. Any such postings will result in an immediate 3 day suspension of your account.
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Saya takut if I go into explaining business operations of this EMNU, then I will be considered and Report as Spamming & advertising biz. Then suspend my account. cry.gif
IF Admin or Mod gives Green Light to me,
Boleh lah saya jelaskan...
Ini tak konfuse. biggrin.gif
Or,
can always PM, saya personally jelaskan .... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2019, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jul 3 2019, 12:06 PM)
Witness how a Mc Ocean Defender argues, name calling & full of textbook answer.

Aiyoyo explain so much for what? We got ask for all this crap ke?

Nature of business is to STAY DORMANT ke? Like that also can be called a business? Business had to be about Product Sales/ Service Provider, but SD register themselves to do nothing?

You lagi Konfuse me...

But for your effort let me raise another question to you:

IF MC OCEAN IS THE ONE PAYING YOU THE SALES COMMISSION,

1. WHEN YOU SIGN UP AS A MEMBER/ DISTRIBUTOR, ARE YOU MC OCEAN OR MIDEA/ SD/ STEADY DYNASTY DISTRIBUTOR YA?
2. WHY THEN MIDEA/ SD/ STEADY DYNASTY EXIST THEN?


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Purposely say sendiri konfuse.
You said are ex ckp, have received tones of sales commission from company , still pretend DON'T know registered as McOcean member or not.
Care to show your bank Statement show description amout credited from by which company? .

Definitely registered as McOcean Distributor member.
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