If you have the time, stay awhile and read my post…
I am one of those members who was so badly brainwashed by Mc-Ocean that I became their pawn for 2 years. I even achieve the status of KP, and then I quit because I finally wake up and see that everything was a COMPLETE LIE.
When you reached a higher rank like CKP and then KP, only then many things start to surface out. Then you realised that YOU GOT SCAMMED, BADLY! But it is too late to escape now with so many active downlines under you and when you are a fulltimer (you need your downline to make money to survive).
Some lies that you will not be told about Mc Ocean during the “3 Stages of Filtration Process”:
1. The interview (1st stage) is a complete BS! – 100 ppl who goes there, 100 of them are invited to the office to see the Marketing Plan. Why? Because the Uplines are always desperate for income, I mean seriously DESPERATE. Many KPs and PPs never make money for months straight.
2. KPs make RM 20k – 100k every month, while PPs make RM 100k and above – This is the WORST lie I am forced to tell my downlines and others! In our Mc-Ocean monthly Income statements, our income was faked with a RM 20k boost. If I make RM 1k that month it will appear as RM 21k instead in my statement to "prove" that I made RM 20k EVERY MONTH.
In truth, many KPs makes less than RM 20k every YEAR. Why? Read No. 5.
3. If No.2 is correct, why so many KPs and PPs are driving BMW and Mercedes? BECAUSE THOSE CARS ARE NOT THEIRS, BUT A RENTAL. They just renew their rental every year.
During KP meetings, KPs are constantly pressured by the Princes (No name mentioned, just know 1 is an Indian man and the other 1 is a arrogant Chinese, both names start with “S”) to rent a fancy car to make yourself look “RICH & SUCCESSFUL”, so SPs will aspire to recruit more downlines and then you can increase your Sales.
4. A lot of KPs and CKPs and even PPs got to this position by buying SPs. Yes, I was 1 of them being conned by my upline to buy SPs to hit quota and get promoted. He told me that I should be KP fast by taking more Bank Loans and said that I can afford to pay them back with my RM 20k – 100k monthly income. In truth, your upline KP is even poorer than you, with hundred thousand to million ringgits of debts.
(Do not be deceived by the recent 2 PP that he is rich, both of them took out heavy loans to buy their KPs so they can be PPs)
5. Hidden cost in this biz – This is very technical and only those who are SP and above will understand what I am saying. In short, for those that haven’t join this scam and planned to, DON’T, JUST DON’T.
If you have attended the final session of the 3rd stage (aka MNU), which is called Y33. They will show you a “Financial Planning” which show how by just recruiting 1 person every month you can make 5 Figure Income as a SP. Let me just be frank, this is a complete lie because:
a) There is a maintenance cost of RM 1900 every month as a SP. Yeah, Mc-ocean will say it is “flexible”. But if you want to make money from your downline’s Sales, you must pay it 1st from your Pocket. Lets say you make RM 3400 of SP Generation Bonus on the month of July, by 31st of July you must buy RM 1900 worth of products only can you get your RM 3400 on 15th of August every month. So minus all the cost you actually only make:
RM 3400 – RM 1900 + RM 532 (a little rebate from your SP’s 33% rebate) = RM 2032 only
Logically, can you survive with this income every month as a fulltimer?
b) You can EITHER make money from your RECRUITMENT OR SPGB, not BOTH. This is the biggest lie that your upline KP will NEVER tell you unless it happened, and you question them.
Yes, this is true. Yes, let’s say you recruited 1 friend as SP and your friend recruited 2 friends as SP:
What Mc-Ocean KP will tell you in MNU:
Your income = RM 4000 (from your recruitment) + 2x RM 1700 (from your friend’s 2 friend) = RM 7,400
What actually you make:
Since RM 4000 > 2x RM 1700.
Mc- Ocean will ONLY give you RM 4000.
So far from the RM 10k, 20k & even 50k that they portray to you.
c) SP Generation can only last for 5 generations, NOT 10 as what was presented – You can only earn from your 6th to 10th Generation’s income when you recruited your 6th SP. What the upline KPs always say is you only need to recruit 5 person and you can make “Passive Income” for the rest of your life is just nonsense. If so, why the KPs now are so desperately recruiting for themselves? No money mah…
6. This is your own business, you can do it anytime, how you like as you please... ... MY ASS!
The truth is, KPs and above all have KPIs they have to meet every year, including 1 of them, having to suck up to their upline PP. If the PP dislike you then that is it, your KP/ PP position is at risk to be terminated due to not recommended to stay.
That is why the KPs are all obedient lap dogs of their upline PP, licking their balls wherever he goes. How different is Mc-Ocean to employment world, where you have a boss on top of you that boss you around?
Here is worse, because these upline PPs will make you do tell lies, cover up truths, destroy a certain member's network etc. And you cannot say NO, if you do then you are next in line to be terminated.
I see the forum is only talking about victims of RM 2k or losing their RM 35k. This can talk down new people from joining Mc- Ocean but it cannot convince many existing SPs to stop what their doing. I hope this insight can share a new light to the darker places of Mc-Ocean. All these lies are always not told to you or even your friend who introduced this biz to you.
When you start questioning your uplines, only then that KP will reluctantly “REVEAL” these revelation to you…
I was one of those being lied to again and again by my upline KP, who used my Trust, my Hopes and Dreams as a weapon against to make me run this business and make them richer.
Because of Mc-Ocean, I am drowned in RM 100,000 worth of debts and I have lost so many of my friend's and family trust towards me… I hope this can help to convince you, say NO to Mc-Ocean!
This post has been edited by Geek Goblin 123: Aug 29 2018, 04:00 PM
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