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Feb 29 2024, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(asdfghjkl12345 @ Feb 28 2024, 11:00 PM) Woah back after a year just to kepo this section, anw recently found out that fcker cheated on me even before breaking up, using McO as an excuse.🤣 During the breakup told me his whole sob story about how he had to earn back the $$ to pay back that RM35k loan and wanna focus, manatau actually go and fuck another ahmoi. Really scammer all the way in this biz and also his personal life lmao Glad to hear that you have moved on.Glad I didn't waste too much time on him, found my current bf who is a decent full time T20 job professional who believes that hard legit work is the way to grow your wealth; and most importantly treats me right 😬 As for that cheater in both aspects, karma will come one day la. P/S I know he is quite close with the famous P.P discussed in this thread. Birds of a feather flock together It is a good thing to let him rot without dragging you into it. That another ahmoi also from McO ka? 🤣🤣 asdfghjkl12345 liked this post
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Mar 11 2024, 09:41 PM
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Jun 4 2024, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(supermegathrone @ Jun 4 2024, 08:54 AM) Honestly speaking, to any people who wanna join this problematic MLM: Exactly, if you put RM30K+ aside to buy just Nvidia, with 5 years of growth, you might already be a millionaire. 1. If you ask them simple questions and they try to avoid answering you or couldn’t give you a straight answer, you should run as far as possible 2. If you need to meet up just to get the answers to your questions, there’s something wrong already 3. If you need to pay massive amount of money just to get items worth peanuts, is it even worth getting it? Like RM2k+ just to get worthless items 4. If the people inside can’t even take “no” for an answer, do you think this is a red flag? 5. Next time anyone claim that make RM5k consistently for 12 months, ask them to show their bank account statement (at least 3 months). If there’s no showing bank statement or those inside providing excuses not to show the statement, please walk away from this nonsense 6. LASTLY: McOcean membership fee is NON-REFUNDABLE. You are better off buying the S&P500 stocks instead of paying the membership fee. Last time I paid RM38 for nothing. Now the price might have gone up. Even if you buy the Tesla stock, which grows 1000% in 5 years, you get around a few hundred thousand as a return. Worst case, if you buy stocks like Apple and Meta, you still can double your return. The keyword here is to be patient, when deciding about money, take a step back and think it through. Ask yourself: 1. YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE COMPANY, is it reputable or trustworthy? 2. If the company is as great as they said, why are they dodgy when outsiders ask about the company? Companies like Nvidia or any great companies have critics and haters, but the reputation overall is still good, because those companies are trustworthy. 3. If those joining the company make money by selling products, why are they recruiting you? To create competition? To make you their slaves? Ask yourself these questions again and again, until you wake up from the dream. Geek Goblin 123 and supermegathrone liked this post
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Jun 5 2024, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(edwinng @ Jun 4 2024, 11:57 PM) If your company is great and well known, you have confidence with your company, then it won't be a shame to let people know. They won't tell you that they are being SECRETIVE, they will only say "SELECTIVE". I just a sudden search McOcean and read 1 by 1 post from november 2022 until present. Because during that time have a so called tuition teacher approach me and try to brainwashed me. Their meet up place is OTWC in PJ, in front is Shell Petrol if I am not remember wrong. But because during that time I love my full time job and I am lazy to find any part time job because my full time job can bring me achievement and can let me sustain in reality The only reason why they don't want to tell others about who they are is the internet. With the age of the internet, most truth can be found in just a few clicks on your phone. So. they have to stay secretive until the victim gets hooked (brainwashed). And while the victim wants to quit when found out the truth, they will do whatever is necessary to keep the victim in line. supermegathrone liked this post
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Jun 13 2024, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jun 13 2024, 09:50 AM) Lets recap back some of the dirty deeds that Mc Ocean and their members did in the past and actively doing: 1. Offering fake diplomas is so common among MLM companies, that's why these diploma mills are everywhere in the US. If you do some searching, you will find even reputable MLMs also did it. Some even set up their academic institution to offer these garbage certificates. 1) Offering fake diplomas to their member You will hear Mc Ocean members bragging how they were offered to study and get a Diploma of Nutrition by Camden University USA. A search online will inform you that this is a UNACCREDITED/ FAKE university. 2) Fake awards winnings Mc Ocean brags about how they were invited to Europe to receive awards from Otherw*ys. This company is known to accept payment from other companies to organize a fake award giving ceremonies. Mc Ocean paid Otherw*ys to do so to create an illusion to the public that they are a reputable company. 3) Harassing/ Threatening ex members Ex members from Mc Ocean were harassed with fake LODs threats or Whatsapp messages from Mc Ocean HP No: 0*2- 6362343, if they tried to expose Mc Ocean's dirty deeds online. Not to mentioned, the unethical means Mc Ocean used to find out the anonymous ex member's identity to threaten & harass. (Fortunately, legal advisors had confirmed that their demands are baseless and instead, Mc Ocean can be subjected for legal actions instead. 4) Holding ex member's stock as hostage Members that paid RM 35K to Mc Ocean to become Star Premier, can keep a portion of their (about 50%) products with Mc Ocean. Meaning they only take out half the stock while the balance can withdraw at counter on later date. This is good, until you found out Mc Ocean's scarm tactics and decided to expose them. When you do so, you will have a hard time withdrawing your stocks. Mc Ocean blacklisted the ex-member's account and their Director pressured the individual unless he/she admit they had defamed Mc Ocean and apologized, the products will be held hostage indefinitely. Pay RM 35K, give only RM 17.5K worth of products, the balance can resell to the next victim. Not bad huh, Mc Ocean's business strategy. 5) Fake testimonies Desperate to salvage their reputation, Mc Ocean offered to their members they get to earn points to promote to a higher rank by collecting testimonies about how good their products are. Normally, you can only earn points to rank up by hitting a certain sales target with $$$. 6) Buying positions in Mc Ocean In numerous occasion, due to lack of new Prince Premier position members, Mc Ocean will organize events where members are confined in the event ballroom to be pressured to buy more products. All your money will be treated as sales of the particular Knight Premier for him/ her to rank up to become Prince Premier. Examples of members who get this special treatment are PP B*h and the late PP Dr Azm*n. Most of the Prince Premiers in Mc Ocean use their money/ borrow money to pump their sales to hit the Prince Premier ranks (either buy a Knight Premier direct downline or to cover the remaining sales target). 7) Fake publicity Mc Ocean is also very proud of themselves being advertised at Nasdaq, New York City. But the fact is, they just paid Nasdaq to advertise up there. ****************************************** There are many more of their dirty deeds that Mc Ocean tried very hard to cover up. The only reason this company is still alive today is because of the MLM loop hole in Malaysia & Malaysia boleh (got $$, everything boleh... you know what I mean). Believing that giving RM 35K to such dishonest & shady company, will make you a 5 figure income earner is definitely ill-advised. 2. Buying awards is very common as well, especially for companies that need it to make their products look convincing and believable. You can see some companies that are less than 10 years of age but have more than 20-30 awards, and you never heard of those awards. 5. Haha, this one I know. As someone who has experience in some certain field, I seen fake testimonies all the time, either paid or forced. But the testimony of this company is laughable because I can easily spot the fakeness of these testimonies. Claim to be rich, but can't pay for some believable testimony service. 6. Well, I guess all the MLMs are the same. Buying position to get on stage, just to feel special. If you have that money to buy a position, it is better if you spend it on yourself, such as starting a real business. That way, at least it is real, it is yours. Going on stage, telling fake stories, and getting cheered is not real. 7. This is even funnier, paying a few thousand or more, just to get themselves on a NASDAQ billboard and claim to be successful. Don't be a joke, please. Even big companies in Malaysia like YTL, Berjaya, or Maybank, didn't do it on that NASDAQ billboard and claim to be successful. Successful companies are reputable, you mentioned the products or the name, people would know. Most importantly, people who work for them would proudly identify themselves as employees of these companies, unlike MLM agents who have to stay underground and scheming day and night. supermegathrone and Geek Goblin 123 liked this post
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QUOTE(supermegathrone @ Jun 21 2024, 07:19 AM) I noticed that Elite Entre network is not really active on Facebook and Instagram anymore. Is this sign of them slowing down/shutting down? Might be just going underground, since they have too much attention from the public at this point. Just few months ago, some of them had a police case.If it is, it is the best karma ever supermegathrone liked this post
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jul 3 2024, 10:15 AM) Wow, wow, wow!!! I feel like I wanna sneak in to that event, but too bad some of them would recognize me. 🤣🤣Mc Ocean's syok sendiri Awards Ceremony is around the corner. And as expected, it is set to be another disppointment. Lets take a look at the 2 candidates that will be brainwashing the attendees on that day: [attachmentid=11498413] What does 8 stars Prince Premier means anyway, 8 years of scarmming people out of their life savings as a Prince Premier for Mc Ocean? Fuyoh, a FAKE DIPLOMA graduate from Camd*n University. A company that endorses and awarding fake diplomas, can it be trusted? (Thanks Mc Ocean admin for sharing that [attachmentid=11498421] Hahaha, this dry scarm lady is another joke. Well known in Mc Ocean for betraying her downlines to steal their networks as herself. Have to leeched upon her downline to be her BF to pay for her daily expenses because she has no life outside of Mc Ocean. (I guess Mr P finally accepted her ball l*cking services to promote her to Princess Premier rank, after 10 years of begging. Yay! Kudos to you ... Hope this 2 MLM Salesman & Saleswoman can sleep well at night with the knowledge of how many people's lives they had destroyed, ONLY TO REACH A POSITION WHO IS STILL WORSE THAN AN AVERAGE WORKING JOE IN MALAYSIA (their income is hardly touching M40). Oh one more thing, 15 years punya MLM but fewer and fewer new Prince Premier position created... This shows how "healthy" this Pyramid Sch*me is growing. 1 word to describe Mc Ocean now... ... DESPERATE |
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![]() When I first saw this dude at the ceremony that I went to, they forced me to listen to his sob story. The story was about how he invested in a scheme, lost money, and went into debt. Then, by joining the "best company in the world", he got out of debt real quick. Sounds fun? Yeah, it is. Because that's the clown telling some joke. |
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Jul 14 2024, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(pangowl02 @ Jul 13 2024, 07:01 PM) So, I just registered Mc Ocean today until I found this post online.... That odd feeling saved you thousands.because I felt quite odd with the rm 2k+ payment which I did not do, only paid the rm38 registration. Should I be worried with my information that I provided them? Phone number, house address and bank account? Damn, I gotta say you are one of the luckiest out there. But yeah, be careful with them coming back at you, unless you have blocked all of them. supermegathrone liked this post
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Exactly. The poeple came to talk to me were having "common grounds" with me, but they didn't know I had lie since the start. By doing that, I knew my introducer was sharing informations to them because there is no such thing as too good to be true and one hell of a coincidence. Too bad that the informations I shared was not common enough that they have to fake their identities to come to talk to me. It was really funny looking at them lying for the sake of securing a potential victim. I was lucky that I had experience dealing with this ype of fraud before the encounter with this group. QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Aug 3 2024, 12:45 PM) To those who were invited out to Mc Ocean's office or their social gatherings, you will notice that these "Entrepreneurs" (including your Introducer) are very glued to their phones, whenever and wherever they will constantly check their phones or typing messages to someone. They will tell the victims that they have "businesses" elsewhere that needs their attention so they need to handle it. But actually they are updating their uplines on the victim's current mindset and getting instructions from the uplines on how to MINDBREAK the victim. Examples: "My prospect (victim) is very defensive about this platform." "She is very anti-MLM because she was cheated before." "When KP XXX was talking to him about house loan, he agrees with KP XXX that he is worried to lose his job because he has no savings to pay for his house loan." "My prospect currently have commitments like car loan and credit card debt, do you think she can secure RM 35K personal loan?" "Here is the FORMHD (information your Introducer gathered from you when she asked you out for dinner(s)) about my prospect, her SOFTPOINT is family. KP, please focus on MIDBREAK her on that." "Prospect is very negative about taking RM 35K loan, KP please help to RATIONALIZE him." Through these method, victims will have the impression that how come the people tat talked to them have so much common grounds and understanding about their concerns. But everything is just plain manipulation in Mc Ocean, right from the start when your friend/ family member/ stranger you met on social media that persistently try to invite you out for a 1-to-1 meal OR join his/ her Social Events. Mc Ocean's end goal of doing these is always the same, to CON-vince you to pay RM 35K to buy their FAKE DREAM OF BECOMING A SUCCESS "ENTREPRENEUR". Don't be the next victim of Mc Ocean! Geek Goblin 123 liked this post
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Sep 27 2024, 10:48 AM) Thanks for sharing. Repost this in case the Mc Ocean Loyal Dogs try to take the post down. Did the original post get reported and deleted?Watch out Penang readers where Mc Ocean Scarmmers are lurking to CON-vince you to give them RM 35K! (1) O*p Sp**t , K*mp*ng B*ngg*li [attachmentid=11503371] (2) P*N P*N T*M Y*M M*E C*F* [attachmentid=11503369] (3) Starbucks K*rp*l S*ngh [attachmentid=11503370] When I saw the locations I almost want to drop on the floor laughing my ass off. Say they earn 5 FIGURE INCOME EVERY MONTH, but can only afford to gather at cheap cafes and franchises... ... 1 RED FLAG to tell that they are just FAKING it. Can't see it. Lol. |
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QUOTE(supermegathrone @ Oct 11 2024, 03:46 PM) https://www.facebook.com/mcoconfession/post...Q2iH4mvtvDW5Crl So called "big" and "renowned" company, but looks like they couldn't hire a proper lawyer to do their LOD.Oh my goodness, spelling wrong, "small rednote" as translation for XHS, "Make an apology and publish in the Facebook" .... Malicious statements? Well your system encourages malicious practices, that is why many people come up with "malicious" statements to call out your bs. How about getting rid of the bs malicious practice? And perhaps take some grammar and spelling lessons? Or learn how to write a proper letter? Spelling September as "Septmebr"? You drunk ke? Geek Goblin 123 and supermegathrone liked this post
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Jan 13 2025, 11:17 PM) Sharing a good testimony about his/ her bad experience in Mc Ocean: "I don’t think this business is a scam"https://www.facebook.com/mcoconfession #MCOConfessions 927 Early 2024, I was introduced to M*o*ean by an old friend of mine, someone I had lost touch with for quite a while. During the meetup we shared a few good moments, reminiscing about the past and catching up since it had been so long. However, somehow, he managed to steer every conversation back to the idea of doing business, I decided to go along with it and discuss the opportunity. He then invited me to a party and events where I met his business partners, and gradually, I was introduced to the business, although the company name was never mentioned during the party or event. Later, I was invited to their office for a visit, where I was shown the products and marketing plans. Initially, I thought it seemed like a good opportunity to start a side business for passive income. So, I decided to pay RM 2k+ to become a GP. A few weeks later, I was invited to attend "HOW" event, where they explained how to make more money by doing the same things. While the plan sounded promising, I was a bit skeptical, especially since it required RM30k. Sensing my hesitation, they immediately asked if money was an issue. They even suggested that I take a bank loan to do the business. With their constant manipulating, I chose to pay RM 30k to upgrade to an SP. I was later encouraged to attend a Camp to learn more about how to succeed in this business. However, I was shocked by what happened. During the Camp, we were taught manipulative techniques on how to act friendly with our friends to entice them into joining the business. We were also drilled with the mindset that if our friends avoided us because of our involvement in the business, then they were likely not true friends, and we might as well lose them. I found all these mentality to be toxic. We were urged to follow the KP unconditionally and copy and paste whatever they do since they are deemed successful in this business. I couldn’t shake the feeling that I was uncomfortable to betray my friends trust by using these manipulative techniques on them. The main focus of the Camp seemed to be pushing us to find business partners as quickly as possible. What really upset me was when one of the KPs mentioned that in order to succeed in the business, we should fully prioritize it and disregard our main jobs. They even jokingly suggested that if our boss asked us to work OT, we should decline, so that we can have more time for the business. I have a well-paying job that I love, and there's no way I would jeopardize my career for this. After the Camp, my KP pushed me to work harder, insisting that I now had the "skills" to succeed in the business. She went through the Namelist (prospects) with me and demanded that I contact them in front of her. My original goal had been to create passive income alongside my main job, taking a slow and steady approach to building my downline. However, I was suddenly forced to map out a plan for how many prospects I intended to meet each week. If they thought the number was too low, they would push me to meet more people by repeating the Namelist thing again. It became evident that they looked down on those of us who preferred a slower pace, accusing us of not being serious about success. 'I have now decided to distance myself from the business and plan to exit for good. So far, I haven't been able to build my downline, as I find it incredibly difficult to manipulate friends or strangers into joining a business I don't truly believe in just so I can make money. I don’t think this business is a scam; if someone is truly dedicated, they could be successful. However, it’s the unethical mindset and practices that I strongly disagree with. When I think back to the smile of my friend when we reconnected after so long, I feel disgusted. I once thought it was a genuine smile, a real desire to reconnect. But now, I realize it was just a façade, designed to manipulate me into helping him recoup his money Must be joking, right? |
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This shit will continue to exist for as long as there is new people in the workforce because they mostly prey on people from this category. It is like all the MLM out there, long existing and sucking money. This post has been edited by diggle123: Jan 31 2025, 01:48 PM supermegathrone and Geek Goblin 123 liked this post
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QUOTE(Geek Goblin 123 @ Feb 10 2025, 10:33 AM) Lets look at the stark comparison of number of active Mc Ocean members between 2024 and 2025. So called "Apple" of Malaysia (The Trillion dollar company) leh. Why so less people one? CNY 2024: [attachmentid=11509916] CNY 2025: [attachmentid=11509917] What Mc Ocean leaders will "rationalize" to their members: "Because is holiday season, many of our members are still in their kampung not yet back to KL." Maybe the lower members will buy that, but among Mc Ocean leaders, they should receive "persuasion messages" to "encourage" them to come back to film videos. Failure to comply are usually met with network boycotting/ no upline recommendation/ reduced number of training so you cannot meet your KPI one wor... And yet, THAT IS ALL THE MEMBERS YOU CAN GET? Mc Ocean 16 years old already in Malaysia, but only left 40 people. This pictures shows the health of this Pyramid Scheme in disguised MLM is doing. Pictures speak a thousand words. HAHAHAHA. In case you don't know, there was a member compared this company to Apple. I can still to see her in the picture. Geek Goblin 123 liked this post
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13N9PqTUvA
Found this on YouTube. Turn on the English subtitle if you can't understand Mandarin. I always said MLM is a cult, especially this particular company. I am not wrong in a way because everything they did is similar to cult. I hope you can gain and learn something from this video, so that you can avoid any cult or MLM in the future. |
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QUOTE(BurBurChaCha @ Feb 13 2025, 09:06 AM) Pffttt... they say they've sold those healthy diet products, but there are still lots of overweight boys and girls trying to sell them. Bruh, the stuff they sell is cheap shit with little or no mineral and vitamin. ![]() For example, this product is basically oat like product, but they claimed to be high end premium healthy shit on the market. Any sane person would compared the ingredients to the market available products. I take Quaker oat as example. ![]() ![]() If you compared the ingredients, you would find it is so much similar, but price difference is super huge gap. BurBurChaCha and Geek Goblin 123 liked this post
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