Today I called up to KPDNKK and check . They said the company under legal action . Too much of complain

Yea friend, Mc-Ocean will brainwash us into thinking MONEY, SALES, INCOME AND BIG CARS is everything in the world. Especially those who decided to quit their jobs and run this biz full time, you become lagi desperate!

They would do anything, say anything for more money.

They can put a price tag for trust, love, care and concern of another human being. Selling their friend/ family away for RM 6,000...

Income is a one time thing, but love and trust, once broken, is a damage of a lifetime.

Well, they are too blinded to see them now that they got what they wanted after destroying so many lives. My friend that introduced this business to me and those uplines that deceived me, THEY ARE DEAD TO ME.

They can burn in hell for all I care, I am pretty sure HELL HAS RESERVED A SPECIAL PLACE JUST FOR THEM.    

We can do our part. prevent our innocent friends from knowing or falling into these mlm schemes.

Worst when family member kena. then family gathering will be sibeh awkward. imagine your relative doing mlm sales pitch.     

No wonder they changing name of their distribution line SD Dynasty to "Midea", it's all about disguise.

The company u asked KPDNKK, refer to "Mcocean"? or "SD Dynasty"?

It is very awkward! Been there, done that.     

I tried to recruit my cousin, she rejected the business and told a few of my aunts about me.

OMG, now even after I have left Mc-Ocean, we try to avoid talking/ seeing each other every year during CNY/ family reunions. Its like I have the word "SCAMMER" is Tattooed on my forehead now.

It really, really SUCKS!

The distributor was the one that came out with the Marketing Plan, so its the one being attacked all the time. That is why it keeps changing name, get scrutinized by KPDNKK, change name.

But its just like KPDNKK is only destroying the cover, but not the root problem, which is the Manufacturer (Mc-Ocean) itself.

Ya indeed, that's why I wanna check with JamesBond5527 , which one did KPDNKK referring to when he call up.

Can PPIM intervene and act? They looks like very good in handling this kind of thing also

I am not sure, but sure you can try.

KPDNKK is the right platform to complain to. After all, that is the department that issued license to MLMs.

In any case, if they did cheated your money, you should report them.

I am not sure, but sure you can try.

KPDNKK is the right platform to complain to. After all, that is the department that issued license to MLMs.

In any case, if they did cheated your money, you should report them.

Special note for Mc Ocean Victims

I was a ex Mc Ocean Ckp *********

1) Before join the business pls check your upline Income statement with upline Kp statement income
2) check their Incometax payment slip
3) Some is not taking Loan at all. PUSH UP POSITION .
Means that not everyone need to take loan. Like PP A**$** she never took loan at all. She is really smart in this business . Become achiver with out capital at all.she use PUSH UP SP to become Sp.
4) 10 days you can refund all your products without minus single cent . 100% Refund
5) within 6 month 90% refund back your money
(So that if you really wanna play this game pls flow this method then don't use any products so that you can refund back your money.
6) They will people ask you to open the products, use the product or test. DONT EVER DO THAT
7) EVERY MONTH YOU HAVE TO DO MAINTAINANCE RM 1,800
8) LAST TIME GOT ONE INDIAN PP M****Y .He is ex JKR .after 9 years end up with termination .very good .
Out of 23 PP in MC OCEAN only left 5-6 active PP in MC Ocean .total melay group colaps .

Here is the updated version of ALL the lies I discovered back when I was a KP in Mc-Ocean:
If you have the time, stay awhile and read my post…

I am one of those members who was so badly brainwashed by Mc-Ocean that I became their pawn for 2 years. I even achieve the status of KP, and then I quit because I finally wake up and see that everything was a COMPLETE LIE.

When you reached a higher rank like CKP and then KP, only then many things start to surface out. Then you realised that YOU GOT SCAMMED, BADLY! But it is too late to escape now with so many active downlines under you and when you are a fulltimer (you need your downline to make money to survive).

Some lies that you will not be told about Mc Ocean during the “3 Stages of Filtration Process”:

1. The interview (1st stage) is a complete BS!

100 ppl who goes there, 100 of them are invited to the office to see the Marketing Plan. Why? Because the Uplines are always desperate for income, I mean seriously DESPERATE. Many KPs and PPs never make money for months straight.

2. KPs make RM 20k – 100k every month, while PPs make RM 100k and above.

According to the ABP (Stage 2 of Filteration Process), a KP will make RM 20K - 100K income per month if the monthly sales is RM300K and above. That is NOT TRUE for 2 reasons:

i)  RM 300K = Recruit around 10 SPs on that month. The truth is, many of the KPs are having hard time recruiting. On average a KP's network will only recruit like 2- 5 people every month, but for those 2 - 5 people to dump in RM 33K capital is even lesser, on average is ONLY 1 to 2 people, OFTEN ZERO due to delays from Bank approving Loans ... How then can they make ON AVERAGE RM 20K - 100K every month?

Bullsh*t!


ii)  See No. 5. Even if they hit RM 300K Sales, it is NO WAY they can earn RM 20K income.
This is the WORST lie I am forced to tell my downlines and others! In our Mc-Ocean monthly Income statements, our income was faked with a RM 20k boost. If I make RM 1k that month it will appear as RM 21k instead in my statement to "prove" that I made RM 20k EVERY MONTH.

In truth, many KPs makes less than RM 20k every YEAR. Why? Read No. 5.

3. If No.2 is correct, why so many KPs and PPs are driving BMW and Mercedes? BECAUSE THOSE CARS ARE NOT THEIRS, BUT A RENTAL. They just renew their rental every year.

During KP meetings, KPs are constantly pressured by the Princes (No name mentioned, just know 1 is an Indian man and the other 1 is a arrogant Chinese, both names start with “S”) to rent a fancy car to make yourself look “RICH & SUCCESSFUL”, so SPs will aspire to recruit more downlines and then you can increase your Sales.

4. A lot of KPs and CKPs and even PPs got to this position by buying SPs.

Yes, I was 1 of them being conned by my upline to buy SPs to hit quota and get promoted. He told me that I should be KP fast by taking more Bank Loans and said that I can afford to pay them back with my RM 20k – 100k monthly income. In truth, your upline KP is even poorer than you, with hundred thousand to million ringgits of debts.

(Do not be deceived by the recent 2 PP that he is rich, both of them took out heavy loans to buy their KPs so they can be PPs)

5. Hidden cost in this biz – This is very technical and only those who are SP and above will understand what I am saying. In short, for those that haven’t join this scam and planned to, DON’T, JUST DON’T.

If you have attended the final session of the 3rd stage (aka MNU), which is called Y33. They will show you a “Financial Planning” which show how by just recruiting 1 person every month you can make 5 Figure Income as a SP. Let me just be frank, this is a complete lie because:

a) There is a maintenance cost of RM 1900 every month as a SP. Yeah, Mc-ocean will say it is “flexible”. But if you want to make money from your downline’s Sales, you must pay it 1st from your Pocket. Lets say you make RM 3400 of SP Generation Bonus on the month of July, by 31st of July you must buy RM 1900 worth of products only can you get your RM 3400 on 15th of August every month. So minus all the cost you actually only make:

RM 3400 – RM 1900 + RM 532 (a little rebate from your SP’s 33% rebate) = RM 2032 only

Logically, can you survive with this income every month as a fulltimer?

b) You can EITHER make money from your RECRUITMENT OR SPGB, not BOTH. This is the biggest lie that your upline KP will NEVER tell you unless it happened, and you question them.

Yes, this is true. Yes, let’s say you recruited 1 friend as SP and your friend recruited 2 friends as SP:

What Mc-Ocean KP will tell you in MNU:

Your income = RM 4000 (from your recruitment) + 2x RM 1700 (from your friend’s 2 friend) = RM 7,400

What actually you make:

Since RM 4000 > 2x RM 1700.

Mc- Ocean will ONLY give you RM 4000.

So far from the RM 10k, 20k & even 50k that they portray to you.

c) SP Generation can only last for 5 generations, NOT 10 as what was presented – You can only earn from your 6th to 10th Generation’s income when you recruited your 6th SP. What the upline KPs always say is you only need to recruit 5 person and you can make “Passive Income” for the rest of your life is just nonsense. If so, why the KPs now are so desperately recruiting for themselves? No money mah…

6. This is your own business, you can do it anytime, how you like as you please... ... MY ASS!

The truth is, KPs and above all have KPIs they have to meet every year, including 1 of them, having to suck up to their upline PP. If the PP dislike you then that is it, your KP/ PP position is at risk to be terminated due to not recommended to stay.

That is why the KPs are all obedient lap dogs of their upline PP, licking their balls wherever he goes. How different is Mc-Ocean to employment world, where you have a boss on top of you that boss you around?

Here is worse, because these upline PPs will make you do tell lies, cover up truths, destroy a certain member's network etc. And you cannot say NO, if you do then you are next in line to be terminated.

7. If you do not pay maintenance, your SP Generation Bonus will be taken by your upline IN YOUR PLACE.

For example:

You are a SP and you are the 1st Generation of your upline KP (i.e: KP is your "grandfather").

This month you make RM 3400 from having two 1st Generation (2 new grand children) in your network, but you did not pay the maintenance.

(2x RM 1700 = RM 3400)

Your 1st Gen = 3rd Gen of your upline KP

Assuming that ONLY YOUR UPLINE KP is paying the maintenance, therefore instead of just making:

2x RM 700 (3rd Generation income) = RM 1400

YOUR UPLINE KP ACTUALLY WILL EARN YOUR RM 3,400.

Knowing this, let me ask you, do you think your KP will rather have you stay in the business or would find ways to kick you out so that he can capture your network's SPGB income?


I hope this insight can share a new light to the darker places of Mc-Ocean. All these lies are always not told to you or even your friend who introduced this biz to you.

Your Upline KPs will only reluctantly “REVEAL” these revelation to you when you discovered them yourself and start questioning them.

I was one of those being lied to again and again by my upline KP, who used my Trust, my Hopes and Dreams as a weapon against to make me run this business and make them richer.

Because of Mc-Ocean, I am drowned in RM 100,000 worth of debts and I have lost so many of my friend's and family trust towards me… I hope this can help to convince you, say NO to Mc-Ocean!

BUMP

A few things to add on to your points:

1) KPs are now given a "RM 20K INCOME BOOST" to their income statements to deceive the public as though they really make RM 20K++ per month now. Every month if their income is RM 2k, the income statement will show RM 22k (20k + 2k).

The RM 20k is still banked in to the KPs bank account, but they must return them to Mc-Ocean by the end of the month during Maintenance, or else they won't earn their income for the following month.

[I ONLY KNEW ABOUT THIS CHEAP TRICK WHEN I REACHED KP.]

2) Don't have to, they already used No. 1 to cover up their tracks. Just look at the way they dress and their spending behavior, without their BMWs you will see how stingy and pathetic they are, eating other people's food, sharing meals, wearing cheap brand formal wears etc.

3) Yea, Al*s*n became a SP thru PUSH UP, meaning she only paid her introducer PP B*l*n RM 2000 to become a GP, when she recruited her 1st SP, she got pushed up to become a SP. She is a hypocrite in real life. She used this PUSH UP tactic to become SP but yet shield this fact from all the new prospects, forcing all of them to loan RM 35k.

4) -

5) Mc-Ocean will only return around 30% of the product value to you. The rest you have to wait until your uplines got their income the following months only will it be refunded to you. If you introducer only recruited you and for months did not recruit anyone, you can kiss RM 4000 goodbye.

6) Yes agree. ESPECIALLY THE EIONISER WATER FILTER. Once you installed or tested it in the office, you cannot get a refund anymore. Your Upline KPs will tell you that if you don't buy or install the water filter you cannot go for the camps (aka 3D Training Camp), scr*w it! JUST DON'T GO. Not worth it.

7) Yup. Something they will cover up from you during their HOW (aka MNU) or 3rd Stage event. They will only reveal this "REVELATION" to you when your network duplicated to 1st generation (i.e: grand children). Then soon after more and more lies will start surfacing after this.

[Read my first post here to understand more.] 

8) Serve him right. The rest will soon come after with so much debts around their waist (Especially the 2 new PPs, who took heavy loans to buy their PP positions.)

Omg . What you said is 100% true .they keep cheating all the new comes

Your point is enough perfect .this is what really happened there . everyone pls open your eyes .

U want to go kena cuci otak ? Stay where you are and dont go