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post Aug 12 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 9 2012, 11:02 PM)
Actually it has nothing to do with the DSG gearbox. It is due to the fact now that your foot pedal is electronic, not like your usual fly by wire throttle. Because it is electronic, there will be a slight delay as when you press on your pedal and it goes to the ECU and then to the engine. Happens to a lot of the conti cars. A lot of people don't face this so much when they remap their cars or when they use Sprint Booster on their VW.
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Actually you got it wrong. Fly by wire or drive by wire literally means electronic pedal and not old tech cabled throttled.

Because it is electronic or drive by wire, the throttle respond actually is more instantaneous or responsive vs the old tech cabled linked throttle where you have slacks in the cable wires to the throttle body. Unfortunately the terms drive by wire actually not referring throttle cable wire but rather electronic version.

The lagging or delay felt its due more to inexperienced dsg user or expectation that created or conditioned by the conventional AT.

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post Aug 14 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Aug 12 2012, 10:26 PM)
Hmmm, I find no references of the Golf sporting DbW technology.
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The DBW is such old tech that they no longer even refering it. Using the throttle perspective, I dont recall any VW sold locally come with a mechanical cable connecting the pedal to throttle body. They are all by electronic signal ie wires..

which is thing like sprint booster or throttle respond device can alter the throttle curve. Some model and car, the factory intentionally adjust the curve throughout the throttle respond to adjust the drive feel.. some like progressive, some like linear, some like it soft or eco...
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post Dec 17 2012, 01:50 PM

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I just wonder since VW now so popular, you all not scare kena DSG konk and engine problem like piston crack/melt? Few friends kena this already and they all low mileage some more.

Looking at the VW Wearnes FB, its painful to see all the problems ler...
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:25 PM

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Yes I know every car/brand also got their own issues and not perfect... but looking at close friends and relatives getting all excited when buying and now cursing kaw kaw every day...

The nos of piston failure/crack due to misfiring vs the nos of car sold in MY, is dangerously high. A friend of mine had his golf tsi engine replacement that took more than 4 months. No courtesy car by the way...SC said misfiring melted 2 piston and scarred the engine block so must replaced whole engine...

If VW sold a lot like P2 or Proton and having some cases, I can understand la.... but VW is not even a volume brand... yet the nos of misfiring problems and DSG7 failure that need mechatronics or Clutch Pack replacement among Passat, Jetta, Golf, Polo, and Roc is way too high of % and unacceptable. Infact almost every VW driver that I know that using DSG7 dry version have either mechatronics or clutch pack replaced.

And please no stupid fan boy comment defending saying its one cant afford hence cant comment. I just wanted to see just how long can VGM playing this selling game with poor after sales as well.

Service appt now minimum 3 weeks booking. My cousin is not too excited that he have to wait that long just to book the first service at 15k...either. Touch wood, he have no DSG7 problem ... yet.
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:05 PM

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Which service center boboi? Maybe I will ask my cousin to change sc. He went to vw okr sc in nov. appt booked from mid oct. Though he is happy with the service but he have to wait 3 weeks for the slot.
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post Dec 18 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Dec 18 2012, 08:08 PM)
Since the waiting period is so damm long, y not make an early reservation? Then no 1 will complain.

As for 7500 service, since it only involves change engine oil y not just ask outside workshop to do it? It cost u RM10 and waiting period 30mins. No need booking too LOL
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I tell you what.. you go and do your unauthorized oil change on your own and tell VGM and see what will happen...



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post Dec 18 2012, 11:32 PM

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Dude make sure u keep quiet on ur own oil change. If u want ur warranty just used back same oil that vw use which is castrol edge professional with special dye.

Not sure if u can buy those oil externally.
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post Dec 19 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Dec 19 2012, 09:24 AM)
Are you stupid? VW Golf is world car sold world wide. Proton is not even a fraction of it.
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Next time read properly.... Stupid....

The proton or p2 is meant to compare in percentage of failure vs volume sold. Vw did not sell as many and yet have higher occurrence of dsg7 MU or clutch pack failure. And with china extending their warranty to 10yrs after Chinese govt steps in speak a lot about the problem. Singapore too....
http://www.mycarforum.com/blog/myautoblog/...ssion-in-china/

http://www.carnewschina.com/2012/05/31/chi...tends-warranty/

http://www.vagsg.com/forums/showthread.php...=Piston&page=20

And don't just be a fanboy. Go n read more about the misfiring n piston crack issues n dsg7 issues even within MY vw forum or worst in SG. THis is not meant to degrade the car, this is meant to serve as wake up call for VGM attitude.
http://www.vagsg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45645&page=2
http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=1.4+tsi+...n&client=safari

http://www.vagsg.com/forums/showthread.php...ighlight=Piston
So instead of getting personal because someone sharing something that is truth no matter how bad it, be matured about it.

As for others say other center is better, yes it can be timing or peak issues. Cousin bought car at okr at work and that area naturally go back there for ease of coordination with sales n what not. Yeah he will explore other sc for sure.

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post Dec 20 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ESeong @ Dec 19 2012, 06:18 PM)
Hi,

since you all reporting alot of issue on Volkswagen about polo or golf, Polo GTI.

Can i still buy and get a problem free, since i'm not going to bring my new car to race.

Want to know how to get rid of the issue you all saying.
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I think everyone want to buy a problem free car too... if such exist. Every car have their problems however it depends on a lot on the after sales services and the brand principal to manage the quality.

You should try to log into VW/Audi dedicated forum in MY, SG or Europe to gauge their opinions. However some internet community at time have too much fan boys opinion that not willing to accept or tell the truth because they afraid of their RV and they will get defensive and personal too...

This perpetuate the problem and brand continue to be lackasaidal as Mavik said, the consumer should exercise their right as needed.

The onus is on you to read up and make an informed decision.

One of my friend have to replace spark plug after misfiring on his 1.4 TSI when the car is barely few thousand km. Also have juddering and waiting for clutch pack replacement now. Originally he paid about 350-400 just for 4 spark plug from the SC, however when he read about the misfiring issue and also some bulletin that VW replacing the spark plug from factory to reduce misfiring, with more internet reference, he shoot a formal complaint to VW. Eventually VW refunded the money to him because all the facts are just readily available over the web.

How many owner would have replace this on their own as this spark plug suppose to last easily 60-100k km?

Refunding few hundred is nothing as misfiring on long run are very damaging that potentially lead to engine failure. One of my buddy 1.4 tsi got hit and waited more than 3-4 months to have the engine replacement from Germany.

Here some additional reading materials. There are more materials but their forum server have problem that they lost almost entire 2012 discussion.
http://vwclubmalaysia.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2808&start=30
http://vwclubmalaysia.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3292
http://vwclubmalaysia.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3293
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post Dec 20 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Dec 20 2012, 06:35 PM)
newer batch of gti come with 18"

17" cos its cheaper to run? biggrin.gif

I am on Asy2 already cost Rm580 each for 225/45/R17 wink.gif
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235/45/18 ... $780 each

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