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post Jul 16 2012, 08:53 AM

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oh boy, another thread turn into "D3 not worth my money" thread.

its funny how contradicting it is sometimes, anyways

good to know some ppl already got back their money from this game indirectly or even more.

so idk why these ppl are still complaining

i think ppl miss the point thou, we all agree that AH is the main factor leading to the downfall of the game, AH is also the factor that you get to finish the game so fast, so really lol, why complain when u used the "finish the game asap" factor?

item drops not "rewarding". i always laugh when i hear ppl say this, SURE the "wow" factor that used to be in D2 drops are not here, but come to think about it, how frequent does D2 legendaries drop, and how frequent do really good D3 equip drops/rolled? different shit in a different way.

idk man, you guys are funny, and oh yeah, if you are prepared to post those shit, be prepared to take shit from me as reply, dont give me those "freedom of speech" bullocks, i have my own friggin freedom of speech too, want to debate bout the logic of this, lets do it as matured gamers.
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(chrommed @ Jul 16 2012, 09:05 AM)
Bad Monday eh bro? I feel ya..chill k..go make a coffee or something
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naw...already had coffee, abit retarded looking at documents now

seeing how ppl posting shit just triggered me to wanna discuss this shit
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 09:20 AM)
well different people have different expectations of this game. i liked it before a lot because of the drop rates, everyday get to see cool stat items.

just disappointed they have to nerf that because it was killing the economy, to me, i don't mind everyone having nice gears, that is why we played right? to get nice gears to kill mobs more efficiently. to keep improve.

there are a lot of conspiracies going around the item drops with gah/rmah. the one which i find most screwed up is blizzard secretly sets each class to loot items which are not suitable for their class to use, so they will need to sell it in gah/rmah. not sure how true this is but somehow i feel it is true to some point, i can't remember looting anything with good stats for my barb, most of my stuffs were from the ah. my friends playing the game feels the same too.

then again blizzard has been doing changes on every patch to suit their economy plan, don't you think so? -fun +profit is what i feel on each patch.
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honestly, the word "nerf" is kinda getting alot of over reaction in the D3 community, sure, maybe your expectations on the game doesnt fit in, but that doesnt make the game a total trash, so why are ppl trashing up the game? especially the ones that already benefited from it, dont forget, it WAS a fukken broken game that was released, you guys took the highway to end it, so live with it then, why complain when it was nerfed to fix those issue?

1st mistake most D3 players made were being part of the system that they hate, aka the AH, economy bullshit etc etc, you want to compare D3 and D2? why not compare this? play D3 without touching the AH? ppl still roll inferno not touching AH, i dont see why some of you cant? previously someone already posted something related to this, one of the streamers vlog iirc which i find it to be so true, put it this way ok? you guys keep comparin D2 and D3, why not just play it D2 style and keep ur hands and eyes off the AH then?

those conspiracy theory doesnt mean nuts if you were really looking for "fun", unless your definition of fun = finish this game fast, and get what you want always. if thats your fun? make your own game then, you will get whatever u want.

fun, what is fun? what is his fun? what is your fun? everyone has fukken different views of fun. wat is even funnier is ppl actually jumpin on the haterwagon and start posting bullshit that doesnt even make sense sometimes, i feel like trolling the heck off them just to make them feel stupid sometimes.

if you dont like the game, then just say, HEY I DONT LIKE THE GAME, KTHXBYE! ez! dont give shitloads of D2-D3 comparison or fun factor bullocks man

if you want really rewarding game, go play monster hunter series then, no AH, no "economy" , hopefully it would cater your "fun", just dont trash that game becoz it doesnt have what you "want".


Added on July 16, 2012, 9:35 am
QUOTE(chrommed @ Jul 16 2012, 09:32 AM)
i got a few items that i am using it..got a 1 hand 1.1k dps rare axe from drops..but yeah most of the items is from AH.

Is there any chance for Bliz to actually shut down the AH?
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at this rate? most prolly no, they need to keep cashing and let players that want to cash out use it whistling.gif

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post Jul 16 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 16 2012, 09:36 AM)
the 'feel' or satisfaction when u get loot form killing mob and buying the  gear form AH is not SAME.
i wont feel any excited when i get my dream gear in ah .

why ppl just dont see it ??
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thats why im finding it hilarious why ppl are complaining when they had been part of the very system they hate.
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 09:56 AM)
i mana ada compare with d1 or d2 sad.gif

just not happy they took out the fun part of the game for me.

my character have 417 playing hours on it, tbh i haven't found an end game item yet for my barb, that is quite disappointing if you ask me.

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did anyone remembered they ninja nerfed the drop rates of a3/4 and ponies after 1.03 patch? it was until everyone b**** and whined they admit there was some changes there. i would call blizzard a dishonest company for that. they also made stats so randomized, many of you guys did not notice but last time the AR stats for ilvl63 is a minimum of 50-80 stat roll, other stats of the ilvl63 have a minimum roll which is quite high. After some patch, it got randomized to 10-80 range. Of course they did not report that in the patch notes too.

there are a number of things which got ninja changed which a lot of you did not notice, i was farming in inferno in day 4 of the game launch, a3/4 after one week. a lot of those who really played the game will notice the game got nerfed to suit the economy plan blizzard wanted.

tell me, whats wrong with farming items at a higher drop rate where you can find things you can use for yourself? 400 hours and the items i am wearing today is not from my own farm, that is ridiculous. which further makes me feel the theory of blizzard making you getting drops/stats rolled which do not belong to your class real. we used to be able to get 1-2 items per day which is of decent stats, today you be lucky if there is 1 in 2 weeks time of farm. blizzard secretly randomized the stats of items till it is so low % for you to get a decent roll on item stats.

why must they take away the fun loots part, we play diablo to farm and get good items, not to look for them in the ah.

only 2 words can describe blizzard now, DISHONEST + GREED
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i totally agree that actiblizz is a dishonest and greedy company, that aside, you are trashing the game when its only out for around 2 mths, about not dropping end game gears, srsly? you used AH, ok i guess what ive posted earlier doesnt seems to register to you yet, ill let u read again, again, conspiracy theories are still conspiracy theory, the drops are still random to me, ive played every class, 2 maxed, others on the way, kept dying at hardcore before i get maxed, i can say the drops arent rigged at all. again like i said, you took the highway to finish the game, and you are complaining bout loots, it doesnt make sense at all, your "upgrades" or "end game" gear basically = bragging rights gears, and you expect to get those within 3 mths of game release? rly now? logical?
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 10:24 AM)
no really, wouldn't you expect to get a piece of end game item with 400+ hours of gameplay? not even 1 really?

also the items you found, don't u notice they are usually not suitable for the class you used to find it?

ending the game is not the main point of this game, it is about farming, all arpg has always been about farming and getting items. it makes you feel rewarded at the end of a farming day. getting an item from farm which you can use feels so good mang, not the same from ah of course smile.gif but we all honestly know that is kinda low chance of it happening, and its the low chance which pisses me off.

reward vs hardwork is not balanced now!
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on the contrary, i found 80% of my bow stocks from DH farming, so idk how is that rigged, put it this way, randomized stats, 5 classes, and you expect items that drop to always fit your needs always? rly now?

again, if you expect to get end game gears, dont care if one piece or not, within 2mths of a game release, you rly got problem lol. if any game that drops end game gears within 2 mths of release, that game can close liao, cmon man, lets be realistic
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 10:35 AM)
hell yeah i do expect a piece of end game item to drop in 2 months time, everyone does. everyone wish for that yellow item roll to be godlike stats every time the right click on it.

how can a game close down when the players get 1 piece of good gear every 2 months? can you please elaborate on that?
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so you are expecting everyone that play the game to be able to get end game bragging rights gears in 2mths and flood the game with end game bragging gears and everyone get sick becoz they already got everything they want with nothing to do other than farming with nothing to surprise them anymore. so yeah. sounds legit, lol your reasons are funnier tbh.

and ppl like athene will be owning diablo eyes closed within the 1st mth. LOL

pls give me a more legit excuse if you want to trash the game smile.gif

OR

you can just admit you just hate the game and kthxbye it. ez
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:21 AM)
300 hours farming in inferno, 0 legendary, 0 "endgame" rares, 0 profit..

not complaining at all.. just mad with my own luck  cool2.gif
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exactly, like every fukken game, drops are reliant on fukken LUCK, ppl that complain the game is trash coz they dont get anything good is so fukken hilarious man, srsly
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:50 AM)
inb4 diablo 3 is farming simulator whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Farmville = the best farming simulator
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 10:58 AM)
i used to love the game during the first month, now just hate it.

i seriously don't understand what is the bad part of everyone getting end game gears per 2 month, that is 13 item slots x 2 months = 36 months = 3 years.

if the game can survive 3 years, will blizzard close down? i don't think so, doubt your "if everyone gets a end game item every 2 month, the game will close down" statement is true.

just admit it you just want to flame people for having a different opinion about the game  icon_idea.gif

also before the 3 years period, probably bliz will release pvp patch, so you can show off your gear and slay your opponents with your supa gear. Also expansion will come.... so I REALLY DOUBT GAME WOULD DIE IF I GET 1 END GAME ITEM EVERY 2 MONTHS!
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apparently my quote of athene pawning everything eyes close within 1 mth didnt register to you either, ill be blunt then, ppl are getting "bragging rights" gears, you just has bad luck, and not getting it, you complain that the rate is bad, so increasing it will improve your gameplay? so catering to your selfish wish = making the game better? lol?

i dont need to flame, this isnt even flame, when i flame, ill make sure your arse is like a burger patty on a hot pan, plus you arent even worth flaming, your rants are pretty amusing, so i still need to wring more jokes out of your replies, so play along with me now, dont change topic claiming im trying to flame.

back to topic, pvp? you dont even have any idea how the full pvp system is other than the pvp debuffs etc etc. so basically there are chances your endgame braggin rights gears means nothing, not to mention class balance might make gears a non deciding factor of "owning" ppl in pvp.

if you dont know how games die due to extra or ez phat lewts drop? good idea would be the 1st mth of D3 itself that got this game into this current dipshit economy meltdown, and you want a better view of how a server get ruined due to ez lewts, go check out any lousy mid rate private servers of any games
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 11:05 AM)
if you put it that way, i rather use my luck to go buy real lottery tongue.gif

more rewarding , haha. jackpot few million REAL MONEY then can enjoy life liau.
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then go play "lottery"? why gripe about something like this on a "game"?


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QUOTE(darksider @ Jul 16 2012, 11:08 AM)
saw a diablo 3 hardcore fanboy here, even worse than diablo 3 forum, inb4 flaming
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is that the best you can do? im disappointed

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 11:15 AM)
OK! Just tell me why you said this if it is not for flaming purposes.
Lets be REALISTIC now, is 3 years time of farming playing everyday a short time to get your full set of end game gears? Will the game close down before you can attain it?

You should know how athene got his items, how can you compare it with your type of game play or concept? Thousands of people give him gold, items, money, for him to achieve that.

Why do you care so much about the D3 economy? Do you own shares with blizzard or are you JAY WILSON himself  sweat.gif

I certainly did not play the game to become an economist, I play the game to have fun and get phat lewts!
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do you want me to link you back to your own words about economy? dont put your own words in my mouth son wink.gif

if you say so you play the game for the lewts, then continue farming, but ooopssss since you already used the AH to buy all your gears, i guess thats down, i wonder what you will do now? OPPS u can do nothing since most of your gears are done, so that leaves gettin bragging rights gears? OPPPPS bad luck son! no luck! *resorts to trashing the game* sounds legit

dont use math statistical calculation to gauge the lewts drop mang, as a gamer you should know very well how fail is that. but oh wait, as a fun guy, you calculate those? gee...the irony

and oh yeah, athene gets his gears from his support group, but honestly, hes not so far from that of hardcore gamers like you, so hes getting bragging rights gears, so your point about "not dropping" those gears are? they exist, just that u have shitty luck not getting em.

cmon man what kinda excuses you gonna come out with next?
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QUOTE(rockroll5022 @ Jul 16 2012, 11:36 AM)
as for me, i got this game when it is first launched in Malaysia right away.. i enjoyed it in the 1 and half month (played it almost every day).. but now it is getting old and pointless.. i am a hardworking farmer as i farmed inferno almost everyday.. but the loot is not rewarding at all with all the time that i spent farming.. i am a blizzard fan and super excited with D3 before they launched it (been the fan ever since Diablo 1 and Starcraft 1)..

The fact is the Blizzard team is not the same no more.. THEY WANT PROFIT FROM A GAME TITLE THAT IS NOT PURELY CREATED BY THEM (Diablo was originally created by BLIZZARD NORTH TEAM WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS RUNIC GAMES).. Sad to say that they are greedy..

The only thing that makes me still play D3 is HARDCORE MODE.. i am quitting SOFTCORE as i am selling all my equipment and gold in the RMAH..
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welcome to the Hardcore mode club, there is a thread here where Hardcore mode players gather

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2361221
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jul 16 2012, 02:28 PM)
ok seem that you rather choose to ignore the main question i ask, lol. ok la, you can keep your bragging rights.  notworthy.gif
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main question? i think ive already stated my points quite clearly and blunt, love how you apply the word
"bragging rights" in your quote btw, explains how ironic your complaints are.
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QUOTE(mollymurder @ Jul 16 2012, 02:45 PM)
bising la ini dua ekor,like itu pasar fan poh u insult me i insult u back pot pet pot pet nonstop..

i duno that man has the genes similiar to aunty aunty one,shut up and play the game already
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Aunty also know they got freedom of speech these days whistling.gif
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QUOTE(hyfreD @ Jul 17 2012, 01:00 AM)
this bee guy's posts make my eyebleed, so retarded LOL

with 400 hours of time spent playing ...one should fully equip his char with somewhat reasonably good gear
good gear should drop from time to time if u play that much, u should get rewarded..

good gears (mid-low rolls and have proper stats on it) should be uncommon-rare instead of SUPER ULTRA RARe like it is right now in d3.. however gears with absolutely perfect and godly rolls should be very very very very rare
almost all of the drops are just junk right now its not even funny
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then you prolly have a bleeding brain right now not to understand what im talking about

1stly ill suggest you checking duckhole's current gear before giving your 1 rupiah here

2ndly tell me the definition of a "good" gear, coz as i know, what duckhole is looking for is not just good, we are talking SUPER GOOD FIRST RATE bragging rights gear

3rdly make sure you go see an optician for your bleeding eyes, i know im that good to bleed someones eyes with words alone

4th dont like the game, quit the game, move on with your life, or you can b!tch here like a pu$$y forever
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jul 17 2012, 07:44 AM)
actually u don't seem to be familiar with the maths of probability.

lets take a ultimate glove for rolling stats:

main stat : str/int/dex = 100-230 stat means 1:130 to get ultimate 230 very high stat
vit stat  : 40-150 means 1:110 to get high 150 vit
crit chance 2-10 means 1:18 to get max
crit damage: 15-33 means 1:18 to get max
AR: 20-80 means 1:60 to get max
attack speed: 5-9 means 1:4 to get max

all those not yet include other stupid stats that might get mixed up. chances of a perfect bragging glove would be like
0.000000000000000000000000000000001%
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well said my friend, that is more in depth statistical chance of what you MIGHT get, in real life however, luck comes to play, and ppl tend to be super lucky with dumb luck, and some ppl just plain super unlucky farming their entire life and get nothing

if ppl that complained about this and trashin the game for such petty reasons, i dont think they are gamers at all, they dont deserve to play such games, might as well go play farmville, its a confirmed reward game wink.gif
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jul 17 2012, 10:27 AM)
To be honest, is not the AH/RMAH that kill the game, is what bliz done/patch/nerf in game in order to push us towards RMAH.

IAS Nerf
Buff MF with dropped item quality, but stealth nerf the item quality

We are playing a loot-hunting game. When loot-hunting lose its purpose, this game is dying.

Level up a char to lv60. Shop AH/RMAH, test gear. exit.
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Level up a char to lv60. Shop AH/RMAH, farm gear, found nothing, exit.

But Diablo 3 still a very useful game for me. Currently i already brought TL2 / GW2 with the profit from RMAH. Will go try The Secret World this weekend as well.
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misconception and excuses, we all know the game wasnt complete from the start, exploits were done aka the highway to endgame, the players that took that highway to end game ended up the 1st to the end, and by the time blizz "nerfed" or should i say fix the damn game, ppl that ended it started crying coz they couldnt get good loots to "sell" to gold fishes. cmon man, is it that hard to admit it? at 1st everyone pretended wanting fun and shit, i bet at least half the player pool that bought the game was due to the fact RMAH was announced before the game was released, these ppl rushed in to get maxed and shit regardless if it was the right or wrg thing to do, im not even gonna talk about those that botted, AH flipping, and bug abuses bullocks ppl did here, glad you earned what you wanted, hope you enjoyed the "game" you bought. LOL
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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Jul 17 2012, 11:07 AM)
oh gosh, that bee is more annoying than that the wasps in stinging winds. just shut up already.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 17 2012, 11:39 AM)
word. duckhole's gear is too awesome.  tongue.gif

my gear are just so-so, so, i m still able to find some upgrades from drops. found this a couple of days ago. not godly, but it's an upgrade for me. biggrin.gif
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i respect duckhole in terms of hes one of the best barb ive seen around here, but rly man, ppl like him b****ing bout the game for stupid reasons is just sad

the hatewagon riding high yo

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