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 Lubegard, anyone using it?, apparently it works!

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cktang
post Jan 6 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 25 2013, 06:46 AM)
can consider buy online/postage, then bring workshop ask them help pour (after ATF drain, and after pour lubegard fill ATF to appropriate level)
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If I pour after gear oil changed, will it be effective?
My persona auto problem : Half year ago when i drove back, suddenly a bmx bicycle head drop off from a lorry in front at seremban highway, cannot evade and 'cross over' with 'CRUCK....' sound. Drove 8km go home park the car see got red oil leaking out. Send car to workshop 'Solder' the hole and refill gear oil.

No problem until recently car kena flooded. After repaired and replacing the gear oil heard there are 'duk' sound with slight jerk when gear shift from 2nd to 3rd. Do another gear oil changed at diff shop, the oil are very dirty when pour out (Realised the shop was a black shop, they charged me and NEVER did the oil change). BTW my problem got improved, but the problem still exist.

Ask a mechanic recommend by my neighbour, he said one of my valve in the gearbox are stuck or rosak. Repairing needs to left the car there at least 3 days and estimate cost rm 400++ labour only. And cannot guarantee 100% solved the problem.

Try x1r auto threatment last week, again the problem got 'minimize', now the 'duk' sound become not as loud as before and the jerking also not as noticable as before. But the problem is still there and i am scare to throttle when 2nd to 3rd gearchange, scare the gearbox to totally damage slowly and need to change.

i wonder if can i put this lubegard now to my gearbox to solve my problem. Or i need to change the gear oil again. The mechanic said persona atf filter is hard to change and must removed the gearbox cover with labour rm 100++ is it true? How much is the lubegard flush and protectant together, keen to try...
cktang
post Jan 9 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2014, 04:01 PM)
best if you pour it during a fresh gear oil change interval not after gear oil change then drive maybe 500/1000 km or more.
if in doubt, consider performing ATF flushing prior to lubegard + fresh ATF especially when you mentioned that your car is flooded before, since water may easily enter the gear box housing via the dip stick (not sure bout persona, iswara dip stick is just at the gearbox housing which is damn low lol.)
more so when you described that changing ATF improved on your problem thumbup.gif

and yeah, give a try to these solutions, at worst you waste rm90+, however more often than not if it's confirmed to be stuck valves, lubegard can help solve that and you'll save over rm400 (not including replacing worn parts if reqiured) in repair bills and car down time.

again, don't straight away put in. do ATF flushing (if you can afford), else just drain your ATF, pour in lubegard, then fill with ATF till appropriate levels.
DO NOT OVERFILL, please fill till cold level, then to make sure, start engine and drive a bit or if car is jacked, have the gears cycle a bit between reverse/D/P and check again on the ATF hot level.
if on really tight budget, go with proton's ATF SP3 or XP3, else spend a little bit more for Caltex ATF-J (need to find at caltex stations) smile.gif

AFAIK false, the mechanic probably con you... however if you're uncertain of the gear box ATF filter quality (since you mentioned black oil poured out before having repaired/replaced by black shop), can consider replacing the ATF filter which means you need to remove the ATF oil sump.
Buy original gasket/ATF filter from proton parts stockists/glenmarie parts center thumbup.gif

no need to use lubegard flush, just regular atf filling, let it run/cycle in the car, and drain it out. there are workshops that have dedicated flushing machines which will work better, however expensive charges.
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Thanks for your kindness feedback, my car got improved ady after running two weeks adding x1r auto threatment. But the 'duk' sound still there, it is not as loud as before ady and the jerk are almost gone. Send to other mechanic to survey repair price, the mechanic mentioned my car got slight overfilled when hot. He say should be no harm but maybe will be gear engaged delay when hot, could be due to after i poured all 240ml x1r into it. The mechanic said not recommendable to repair as it will sum up a cost around rm800 after he test out my car are quite smooth excepts the small 'duk' sound (2nd ~ 3rd everytime) and slight jerk (throttle 2nd gear up to 3k rpm). He ask me to live with it and 'drive until it kong completely' and change a recon gearbox around rm2500 . Btw wan to try the lubegard red on the next oil change after 5000km, went to eneos bu but they are not selling anymore. Nvm i think i'll take your advise to find a shop to flush the gearbox and re-fill with caltex atf j on the next oil change.

cktang
post Jan 14 2014, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 10 2014, 12:01 AM)
Ok, will go to eneos kepong to get one for next oil change. Should i get the platinum as it is just rm5 diff? Went to proton yesterday tell them the problem. They diagnosis with the computer, there was an error - invalid transmission variant. After they did the tuning the jerk almost gone and the sound still there and getting smaller (again). Mechanics is a generous young malay guy who called uncle(i am 30 plus only mad.gif ) said the oil still clean and suggest me to change the oil on next service. He said he never heard of lubegard and show me the x1r, tell me my oil level was full and must release some if want to put in addictive.

 

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