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post Aug 3 2012, 02:13 PM

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Monks sifu here icon_question.gif , wanna ask how much AllRes is required to be safe in Act 1 Inferno? (0 death, playing HC sweat.gif). Is ~400 AllRes enough or need more? (With roughly 1k LoH).

Thanks in advance! laugh.gif

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post Aug 3 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 3 2012, 02:14 PM)
OK wa 400AR. Just becareful not to get surrounded/bath in molton/disscerator/poison. I now at act 3 also 6xx nia.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Aug 3 2012, 02:23 PM)
Cukup liao..400AR. I DH run with 350AR also can finish Act 1 without dying (SC). Careless then of course ..kantoi..but 400AR for Monk Act 1 with 30% less damage should be enough. Like Yauhar said..just dont get surronded lor...serenity is your best friend..lol smile.gif
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Hmm alrighty then, I mainly scared of molten / descrerator / arcane sentry (died once from this doh.gif)

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 3 2012, 02:27 PM)
for LoH build suggest to use fist of thunder + dual wield. it will fast recharge back you hp upon strike. requirement about 18k dps thou.

I luv the combination of FoT + Cyclone @ 20%CC/215%CD, look at those tornadoes!
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Yeah dual wield LoH seems to be nice (More LoH, more ASPD) but I'm not sure if it's safe in HC.. scared will die; and also the lack of passive slot at level 60 (Near Death Experience + Sieze the Initiative + One with Everything)
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post Aug 3 2012, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 3 2012, 02:49 PM)
NDE ok? I don't use that and I use mostly either resolve or The Guardian's path. I not familiar with HC way so I can't comment. Softcore dying is biasa.
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I tried not using NDE once and lost my fresh level 58 monk cause of it. Will never ditch NDE for anything else now cry.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 3 2012, 02:53 PM)
for armor, not much price difference, if any at all.


Added on August 3, 2012, 2:54 pm

200-300 if ur dps cun. 300-400 standard if you're on the bare minimum for butcher enrage timer (about 10-15k dps)


Added on August 3, 2012, 2:55 pm

for HC i recommend forever shield
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Hmm, alright then. Will stick with at least 400 All Res to be safe. Not gonna ditch shield as well since it mitigates quite a sum of damage thru blocking and additional resistances.

QUOTE(alvinfcj @ Aug 3 2012, 04:31 PM)
Lol polarzzz, u gave up on ur dh n wiz d?? >.<

But after experiencing the dh n monk myself, I can say monk are really more fun to play..
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Haha, my wizard was only created for fun to see how well it can tank by spending a little on it. As for my DH... everything is too expensive and farming sucks due to the lousy loots.. basically I give up farming in SC mode already. Now playing HC mode for fun and its thrill-feeling laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 07:53 AM

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Just cleared HC Hell Act 4 with roughly:

(buffed stats).

Armor: 6647
DPS: 9402
Allres: 523
HP: 35885
LOH: 1062

Hopefully can clear HC Act 1 Inferno without losing this char >.< cry.gif

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post Aug 4 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 4 2012, 09:43 AM)
Good luck on that dps sweat.gif
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Haha no choice, not funded in HC and items are so expensive / not even in AH. cry.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:40 AM

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Remade a monk in SC after my HC's died again cry.gif. Gotta use my current DH gears (most likely a heavy critical build). What is the minimum LOH / DPS on the weapon I should have? Too long didn't farm, fund a bit limited laugh.gif
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post Aug 7 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 7 2012, 02:28 AM)
LoH zero also can.  dps as high as possible.
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Hmm, not sure how much my DPS will be. But it'll be a crit based build.

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 7 2012, 09:30 AM)
After die more then 10 times, i finally make it to the 3rd level, Damm the Hell Rift keeper are so annoying, 1hit ko everything I had to run all the way back ~~~~~yeah!


Added on August 7, 2012, 9:41 am
I got spares... Enough for act 1-2, lelong abit
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What stats? How much? tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 08:20 PM

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My monk using DH's gear laugh.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jishiny...5/hero/23046534

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post Aug 9 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 8 2012, 11:19 PM)
botter spotted rclxub.gif
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Botter? sweat.gif

All my gears are from AH tradings / flippings. doh.gif

Addon: But these stopped ever since last month. The game is so dead with terrible loot rolls.

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post Aug 9 2012, 07:45 PM

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Tried different weapon combination and seems that high DPS (~51k unbuffed) + Crit rate & dmg + Life Steal % works like wonder.

Managed to kill stuff in Act 2 pretty easily, but still having problem in Act 3 (most likely due to the low AllRes, since my DH doesn't have much of it in its equipments. ~500 AllRes only).

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post Aug 9 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2012, 11:20 PM)
600-700 total all res + ~6-7k armor is good enough for act 3 if your dps is good smile.gif
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Those normal / not-so-retarded affixes in act III still okay, but those hard-hitting / troublesome packs with troublesome affixes (e.g. Hulking Phase Beast, or some elites with molten + firechain combination) = at least 3 deaths
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2012, 11:40 PM)
dps good is quite subjective. it could very well mean kill the f***ers in 4 seconds of serenity + ascension rune LOL (which most "high dps" monks are doing btw wink.gif )
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Hmm, burst in 4 seconds. Gotta give it a try, now still using serenity for oh-shit button lol tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2012, 11:53 PM)
im using it to burst these days. if the f***er dies faster than me, i dont need to oh shit liao brows.gif

btw MoC + overawe, cant go wrong wink.gif
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Hmm, the burst-thing you mentioned is nice, managed to down some troublesome packs with 0 - 2 deaths.

Plus I guess I need to learn to kite a little even with monk (my mind's planted with the idea of melee = no need kite tongue.gif).
Always rambo too much, that's why will die laugh.gif

Edit: Yeah, currently using MoC + Overawe, Blind + Faith, and Sweeping Wind + Cyclone for burst.

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post Aug 10 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2012, 12:03 AM)
bursting no need kite. go in pop sere balls deep press 1-4 (me is 1+2 and mouse 4+5 lol) + left and right mouse button and pray the f***er dies before 4 seconds LAWL!
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Haha. I meant kiting when sere is on CD. I tend to sit on top of a descre without knowing and.. died. sweat.gif
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post Aug 10 2012, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2012, 12:08 AM)
that means the f***er not dead lo wink.gif
normal mobs dont desecration tongue.gif
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Haha, usually out of 3 pieces of them, 1 will down and the remaining two, very disturb sweat.gif
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post Aug 10 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 10 2012, 09:11 AM)
don't forget if CC+CD high make use of the cyclones. Those mini tornadoes are so nice to see, I had paired with reality88 and the lightning we generated are just simply awesome.
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Yeah. Using those cyclones as my primary health regeneration skill. LifeSteal + Critical + cyclones = awesome thumbup.gif
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post Aug 11 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(hyperzx @ Aug 11 2012, 11:15 AM)
will try deadly fist.. even my Ar abit mess up but total AR now is 900++.. maybe need LOH
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Since your DPS kinda high also, maybe can give life steal a try. My monk currently relies on life steal + cyclone + high crits to survive. Sometimes still die tho, since the life steal is not constant (values for me roughly 200 life per hit ~ 1000 + life per hit depending on damage, after inferno nerfed)
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post Aug 14 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Coconut @ Aug 14 2012, 12:13 PM)
I just realised Dex doesn't increase much of your dps, i have about 2k dex now, but my dps is so much lower than you guys.

Now slowly change to crit chance and crit damage, have to change most of the things....broke..
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DEX, Weapon DPS, Attack Speed, Crit Chance, Crit Damage. All these are taken into calculations of DPS. Most are multiplicative, and since 1 dex = 1% damage, having too high dex but low on others (e.g. weapon dps) will result in lower overall dps. Balance in everything.
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post Aug 17 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 17 2012, 02:01 PM)
My monk doesn't have +% skill damage.

But my Demon Hunter has +9% hungering arrow on the quiver.
It just add the damage as description, as simple as that.
Without the quiver, my DPS is about 87K.
With the quiver, it is 95K+ DPS. Sometimes it can even hit up to 100K+ DPS.
It is something good to have.
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I don't think the skill % shows in your character DPS sheet. In fact it just work like how Quaza explained, total DPS / damage dealt + X %
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post Aug 17 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 17 2012, 02:16 PM)
It doesn't show DPS on your character information page.
The DPS that I mentioned is the damage I see on the screen when I shoot the monsters.
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Ah, my bad. Interpreted your message wrongly. notworthy.gif

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