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post Aug 14 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 14 2012, 03:39 PM)
Err... I am not sure how crit chance relate to tornados spawning.

I used to change my amulet in order to have higher LOH and AR, my crit chance % reduced from 20% to 16%.
I used a slow weapon, 1.2 spear.
I could spawn 4-5 tornados in 3-4 hits. It is exactly the same with higher crit %.

However, to generate tornados, I found it is skill and gear related.
For instance, dual-wield can easily spawn tornados as compared to 1-hand with shield.
For instance, FoT can instantly spawn 2-3 tornados as compared to WoTHF.

Just my experience.
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QUOTE(Slythape @ Aug 14 2012, 03:43 PM)
Attack speed factors in spawning tornadoes too, using an axe is slower compared to dual wielding fists, like what aleune said too, Fist of Thunder has faster attack speed and therefore spawn more tornadoes compared to deadly reach.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 14 2012, 03:48 PM)
yup, dual wield gives additional 15% atk speed.
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yes im comparing FoT with FoT not another primary attack skill
so the reason that my friend is spawning tornados at the same rate as me (duel weld) vs me (1axe + 1shield) is purely because of attack speed right?

but im curious about about ALeUNe's statement that i've bolded. how is it possible to spawn 5 tornados in 4 hits (with sweeping wind charged up) with a 1.2 atk speed spear with around 20% chc?

so in my case im using an axe (1.3 attack speed) with 41% chc, should i spawn approx. double that amount of tornados?

or am i missing something?

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post Aug 14 2012, 05:11 PM

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thanks for the clarification
i dont have any attack speed increase in any of my gear

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post Aug 14 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 14 2012, 05:32 PM)
I could even spawn 3-4 tornadoes with the 1st hit.
As Quazacolt explained, it is a critical hit.
FoT can hit multiple target. If your 1st hit is a critical hit and it hits multiple target, it will spawn few tornadoes.

I couldn't explain it. This is how I did.  tongue.gif
Averagely, I can spawn 3-4 tornadoes in 3-4 hits. That is very common.
Beside gear and skill, it depends on how many targets/monsters. If you have more targets to hit, you have more chance to spawn tornadoes.


Added on August 14, 2012, 5:34 pm
With those stats, you can moonwalk in A3/A4.  laugh.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 5:37 pm
Yes, I dual-wield with 2 spears.
Never had a problem to spawn tornadoes.
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i understand wat ur saying now
i tot ur talking about single monster just now
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post Aug 17 2012, 10:15 AM

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hehe finally got some upgrades in dps and armor.
drop abit of all res but oh well, willing to trade some for higher dps~
also got a ring with some IAS which previously i didnt have any~
new helm has +8% FoT dmg but i didnt know the additional dmg is not being displayed on my dps?
can anyone clarify this?

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post Aug 17 2012, 10:52 AM

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@Quazacolt
thank for clarifying on the +FoT dmg %
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so can it be said that my actual dps is actually +3.5k?
or not really that way to calculate?

@yuhhaur
ya bro sometimes if i go shopping in AH i will buy items with +amor

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post Aug 17 2012, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 17 2012, 12:04 PM)
shouldn't be the way it calculates. hell, dps is just a rough benchmark, it definitely does not equate to your actual damage output smile.gif
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anyone knows how the 8% FoT damage calculates?
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post Aug 17 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 17 2012, 05:17 PM)
Aside from all the AR/Armor/Main Stats...
Amulet: CC/CD/LoH/IAS/Socket, so are ring
Glove: CC/CD/IAS
Weapon: DPS/CD/LoH/socket
Helm: CC/Life%/Socket

Sauce: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-...maximum-values/


Added on August 17, 2012, 5:27 pm
On average your gear are not ok for A3/4 as we mostly focus on:
5k armor, 500AR, 25k DPS, [CC20%/CD200%] or [LoH1.5k], HP 30k.

I used the above to end the game but A3 ok ok only. A4 kite till no tomorrow. Our IDEAL build (keep on dreaming yo):

2.5k dex, 7k Armor, 700AR, 50k dps, CC35%/300%CD, HP 50k.
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2.5k dex (X)
7k armor (√)
700 AR (√)
50dps (X) almost
CC35% (√)
300% CD (X) 1h 1shield T_T
HP 50k (X)

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somehow i feel life leech % is much better than LoH...
if you are constantly criting just 50k dmg on 3% leech its already 1.5k hp leeched per hit?
am i saying this right?....

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post Aug 18 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 17 2012, 07:30 PM)
You only get 20% out of 1.5K.


Added on August 18, 2012, 3:41 am
You have got very good Crit% / Armor / AR.
2500 DEX is a bit extreme.
IMO, any DEX more than 1800 is good enough.
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thanks~
i just bought a new pair of boots +50dex from my previous, +alot more armor, +3res
but pickup radius = 0 (which is damn annoying)
so dex improved to 2136 now.

gonna try act3 tonight...should be tough


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post Aug 19 2012, 05:50 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 19 2012, 03:02 AM)
You have a good stats. You should be able to do A3.
With your high DEX, I think your DPS should be good too.

I think it is important to have pickup radius for melee heroes.
You need to pick up health globes.  laugh.gif
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just finished an act3 run, its manageable but yes! like u said i need radius to pich up health globes
actually died few times on elites becoz of that =.=

used the FoT rune that gives spirit each time i crit so i can spam mantra since i dont have any LoH
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post Aug 21 2012, 08:25 PM

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sn00bz-6959/hero/10785073

im thinking to shop for some upgrades but im dont necessarily have the gold yet...
but i dunno how to buff my dps anymore....(sticking with shileld tongue.gif)

cant any sifu advice which of my gear can maybe add attack speed % or crit dmg
i think i can sacrifice some amount of crit chance as im currently on 42.5% + default 5% = 47.5 % crit chance

the calculation of how much CD or IAS will improve my dps too complicated...pening liao~
later beli already den see drop dps sure sakit hati

also example like my bracers, isit worth it to spend a few mil (like 6-9mil?) for a 30-40 dex upgrade?

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post Aug 22 2012, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 21 2012, 10:17 PM)
wait for AH gear comparison.

ideally, stick to 1 crit chance to 10 crit dmg ratio.47.5% crit chance kinda requires 475% crit dmg, btw
you could probably work in that direction
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ok will keep that in mind for approximately that ratio.
previously when i upgrade my gem for my weapon to buff crit dmg dps each 10% up will give me around 1k dps.
thanks

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 21 2012, 10:34 PM)
I don't see a point to have a minor upgrade (like you said, 30-40 DEX increase).
It doesn't give any real impact.

You seek an upgrade because you wanna run like a boss.
What about an upgrade that let you run like a boss in A3/A4?
What about keep your DPS level while you increase your LOH to at least 2200?
Meaning you need to change your weapons (you'll need 2 weapons to achieve that), amulet and rings (optional).

Put away your shield. You don't need that.
Your armor and AR are good enough.
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i believe one fine day i'll eventually move to that direction and ditch my shield to dual weld
but at the moment maybe its becoz i cant afford a weapon that is around the same as my main hand.
a good offhand i think maybe can boost up another 15k dps maybe? with good amount of crit dmg and a socket...
i heard LoH got nerf, but not sure of the details as i havent read the notes on 1.0.4

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 21 2012, 11:14 PM)
From the look at it, you will get huge improvement if you add IAS and Crit Damage.

Anyway, there is no need for guess work, just use this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...JEV0RlLUE#gid=6

Put in all your current gear stat and what you plan to buy and see the DPS difference. That's the online version, you also can download the excel to do this offline:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6019812909
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thats right, i bought a ring with 6% ias and some dex increase and got 3k dps up recently, but just dont know how to calculate it lol
thanks for the link i'll try to play around with it

QUOTE(OldManChild @ Aug 22 2012, 12:16 AM)
damn u got high dex..
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lol thanks, but i've seen many monks higher dex =.=
im just happy to reach 2k dex

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post Aug 22 2012, 04:06 AM

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me too hehehe
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post Aug 22 2012, 07:54 AM

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sn00bz-6959/hero/10785073

so i have dropped my shield for a dual weld...
dps up by 11-12k dps
all res dropped to 700
armor dropped by 1k
crit chance dropped by 9.5%

tested in act 2
feels naked but ran thru it no problem, elites were dead in no time
kill belial right before he pokes the ground

act3 tonight maybe

one thing for sure is i will not go for LoH
i rather go for Life per spirit spent + transcendence
example dual weld fist both with 40 life per spirit spent + transcendence (40 + 40 + 62 x 150 = 21300hp each full spirit pool) + serenity + breath of heaven
should be more than enuf.

will look forward to this in the future

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 22 2012, 08:12 AM)
Yes, you can spam the per spirit spent (provided you have high spirit generation).
Let's not forget, you need to keep pressing the keyboard key while your eyes looking at the screen + your another head keep clicking the mouse.
It could be quite stressful at times.  laugh.gif

Well, it's up to you how you want to play it.
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hehehe its a cheaper solution compared to LoH i believe~
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post Aug 22 2012, 06:39 PM

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lets do a monk run together~

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post Aug 23 2012, 10:49 AM

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/won-khim-lau

i think this won khim lau fist weapon is a very good option for monk
buff lightning skill + lightning dmg = good shit for sweeping wind tornados and also FoT if not mistaken
it is even better if u get it with crit dmg + socket
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:01 PM

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since i'm just starting to dual weld, wanna ask a question
is there any different in placing which weapons in main and offhand?
need some guidance here.

what should i look for in a main hand?
what should i look for in a offhand?

thanks

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Aug 23 2012, 02:29 PM)
Yup....higher DPS on main hand..

I think theres an video by Krip on this..smile.gif
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i did watch krip's vid but thats for barb and if i remember correctly its specifically for barb ww build
not sure if it applies the same to monk

but i'll just go along with it
higher dps main hand

if anyone will to elaborate will be much appreciated

if not doesnt really matter
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:09 PM

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sn00bz-6959/hero/10785073

so is this the correct way to put my main and off hand?
but the fist weapon actually does more dps than the axe....
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QUOTE(alvinfcj @ Aug 24 2012, 01:43 PM)
Lol, yeah I can clear inferno pretty much.. But when someone is stuck with the current gear for too long, they will eventually want to be better n upgrade.. I have stuck for too long in my current gear and all new upgrade require at least 5 mil per piece...

That's why I'm asking all pros here what can I do without simply wasting gold...

Will take ur advise on gems... But my off hand weapon r so beast.... Loh, built in CD, socket.... How to find similar shit like this with cheap price man.... T.T
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how much u bought ur offhand?

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