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clautee
post Sep 15 2012, 10:09 AM

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Ok here are the promised vids. thx to cowithgun, window movie maker jt awesome...

I'm using A3 - The Core of Arreat as benchmark for dual wield vs 2H. If the vid inspires you to play monk or chg ur playstyle, it would be my pleasure...oso pls share ur thoughts for any improvement for me too.. biggrin.gif

Dual Wield - Unbuff 73k dps @1.82 aspd, when buffed with faith in light abt 100k dps
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Dual Wielding vid
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2H - Unbuff 105k dps @1.15aspd, when buffed with faith in light abt 140k dps
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2H run vid
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Analysis on dual wield vs 2H
No doubt the aspd is fascinating and from the vids it seems like dual wield is better. To me actually not as i took few tries to get a no death run. The comparison is very rough one as I had difficulty to find matching elites of 2 games. The elites in dual wield vid are much easier to handle considering their affix and mob type.

Setbacks of dual wield and 2H
Dual wield has a lower survivability compared to 2H in my case. However, my sp 150 regen way faster compared to 2H. Thus, I'm using beacon of ytar for dual wield run and exalted soul for 2H. D3 really a nice game that u have to set your skill to match ur eq and playstyle.

Focus on 2H
I bought my 2H weapon at reasonable price compared to dual wield. It would be nice if the aspd can pumped to 1.4 (tested with frenzied valor - superb mang drool.gif ). Also I may dropping the 5k dps for additional at least 3k HP for better survivability. Sometime get 1 shot by the stupid horned mob in ice cave vmad.gif

Here is my profile if you need item guide but i suggest dont buy fire resist item (too exp), poison will be nice if u r using andariel helm.
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clautee
post Sep 15 2012, 10:41 AM

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@yuhhaur, from what i've read they also nerf inferno mob dmg and eventually our def is still sufficient with the neft of STI..

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We're taking a close look at defensive skills vs. incoming monster damage in 1.0.5. We’re going to be changing a few defensive skills for each class, including some direct nerfs to skills like wizard Energy Armor and barbarian War Cry - Impunity. However, we're also reducing incoming damage in Inferno, so players will actually come out ahead. In short the plan is:

1.Reduce the effectiveness of select defensive skills
2.Reduce monster damage by more than the mitigation lost by these skills
3.Putting both changes together, players actually take less damage than before



clautee
post Sep 16 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Sep 15 2012, 03:37 PM)
hi, fire chick monk here
cry.gif gears so expensive mang
Haha, indeed..Shud hav invest on other elementary resist. Nice gear especially the pair of sword rclxms.gif

QUOTE(apamise @ Sep 15 2012, 04:33 PM)
Since clautee already posted dual wield and 2-hand build, guess I'll post my sword+shield build. I choose shield because I want to drop OWE and use Fleet Footed instead. 34% mspd is awesome.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/apamise...0/hero/15390424

Nice gear u have, if ur CD can pump to at least 300 ur dps will be insane..plus ur high def with shield..anyway a monk with great def and 85k unbuff is awesome rclxms.gif ...i wish i have ur bracer, pant and helm laugh.gif

Btw, have u tried with WoTHF rune blazing fists? my eq 24mspd + 10 from fleet footed can buff to 49mspd when crit for 3s..everything is like fast forwarding, must try:drool:
clautee
post Sep 18 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 16 2012, 11:35 AM)
Really nice vids! I really learn a lot from it. Dual wield does look more awesome than 2H. I really like to see more tornadoes and numbers poping up! With 2H, the first hit look like got 'delayed' a little. May be just me. IMHO, you do need a bit more HP, or try Guarding's Path (for dual wields should get you more surviability than 2H).
Glad it helps u. TBH, I personally fancy on dual wield for the same reasons as urs. Have to go for cheaper way (2H weapon) to pump dps. End of the day, we r just repeating the killing steps for loots and I rather hav it done as quick as possible.

I did some changes to improve on the 2H set. Now aspd arnd 1.32 and mspd 24 thx to lacuni brawlers lol. Feel much better in terms of speed bt that is still obvious gap compared to dual wield. If I can afford a pair of descent 1k weapons definitely I will switch bc to dual wield.

HP wise I manage to reach abt 30k which is sufficient as I don't encounter long fight. The only affix elite I hate is reflect DMG + shielding.

P/s: didnt get legendary for 1wk liao. rage quit my monk till my wiz reaches lvl 60
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Sep 18 2012, 11:43 AM)
i tried previous Tank Build (defensive mode skill set, active skill : Crippling wave [concussion], breath of heaven [circle of life],serenity [peaceful respond], MoR, Inner Sanctuary [CoP], Bllinding Flash [Searing Light], passive skill : One with everything, the guardian's path & fleet footed) with dual wield. still cannot go.. maybe my gear need major overhaul.
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Best defense is offense. Kill the mobs before get killed. U nid upgrade ur gear or prolly wait till tomorrow as we have maint at 6pm today that takes 8hrs. Maybe is 1.0.5....


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post Sep 18 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 18 2012, 10:49 PM)
please refrain from posting other games. this is the d3 monk thread (and d3 sub-forum) after all.
Hmm, u got ur point there..edited my previous post to change it into link. The reason i share it as both games are ARPG and have a very similar game play. Additionally berserker looks like monk too.. smile.gif

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Back on D3 monk, i think monk build is very versatile as u can go for fully offensive, vice versa and balance build.
What we talk is what we'd felt and been experienced thru the game play. Those who really need guide should have a clear mind of what u really want afterall.

For me, the game mechanism pre 1.0.5 still grinding for loots. I dont have much patient for a full A3 run, repeat and repeat. But i can bear with it by speed gaming. My game path started with low dps + LOH > "ok" dps + LOH/LS > high dps. That is my game style, personal choice. 1 game u get nil legendary/set, create another new game. Better luck at next game.

With the coming 1.0.5, Blizzard is having tendency to encourage player to pump their dps. They're going to nerf on defensive passive skill and mobs dmg output. The map is still the same, with majority farming at A3/A4. The only thing keep me playing is RMAH and in order to enjoy that is getting more and more good loots. So, u kill faster = u get more chances of better loot. Time is precious laugh.gif

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post Sep 18 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(M_century @ Sep 18 2012, 11:05 PM)
I did anything wrong in the calculator?

Calculator

My monk

The calculator says I have 100k dps which I dont...

please correct me.
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The Battle net profile usually accurate one. Try use this DPS calculator http://www.bios-gaming.de/d3dps/. Save the page in your bookmark/favourite so u just key in ur gear once. For upgrade u can compare item to item before purchase, very useful and popular calculator smile.gif

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post Sep 19 2012, 02:36 PM

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lacuni is a must, IMO. It adds aspd, mspd. If gt money, go for the one with 4.5 cr.

Talking on the LMB, I usually hold the LMB (FoT) then just spam my spacebar (hold) for swap target or evade.
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post Sep 20 2012, 03:40 PM

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Time to consider exalted soul as ur passive. Solve ur sp prob
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post Sep 21 2012, 10:42 AM

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With the nerf on STI and enchantress, my def reduced to 4k++. I doubt hw far monk can go in terms of monster power lvl. High dps low def if gt 1hko by mob oso pointless
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post Sep 21 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 21 2012, 10:44 AM)

Added on September 21, 2012, 10:47 am
This is what I'm worried about too.
Just like the pre 103 patch.
Remember most of the Barbs got stuck in A2? Many of them KOed in 1-2 hits in A3.
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More than likely, decent item with armor bonus will be inflated due to demand especially with the coming revamp AH functions.

However it is still early to say. Early preparation will gain great advantages i.e. trader who bought mass ruby Pre 1.0.4 had their pockets fulled.

Last I heard current inferno is equivalent to MP lvl2 or 3. Wonder hw is Pre 1.0.3 inferno. Maybe lvl4-5??


QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Sep 21 2012, 11:06 AM)
this...what i affraid would happened...keeping my money upgrading all my armor section first ..the CD the CC the shield...

lastly weapon....

p/s: last night just burn 60M (12M x 5gem) upgrading radiant star gem....not so much improvement on the dps....but im relief i no longer need to think about it again..

looking for a helm with AR CC atleast > 5 dex >140 vit > 80......whats in the AH is Inna's...lol too expensive..
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lol have the same thought as urs on the gems just don't have the budget.

Maybe we should buy one decent shield at 1.5k armor 25 block with cr, ar and main stat while still dirt cheap now for backup

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post Sep 21 2012, 11:53 AM

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Yes kns they nerf eireena. 10% is huge to me as it buffs on ur total armor. 5% armor buff really peanut lo

New shield with monk skill may cost a bomb. ..Maybe not...apamise shield looks shinnier than before now haha

I hope my gear still can down the uber boss with 4k def. Ahaha
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post Sep 25 2012, 10:20 AM

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Aiyo show bnet profile, I wan see ur items
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post Sep 28 2012, 01:00 PM

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Tested PTR. My monk gt raped badly by white scorpions in MP10. Nid higher armor, higher dps, higher hp, higher LS,..., basically regear everything.

However my monk can still perform well in MP5 in term of effectiveness. 1.0.5 will make u kip grinding for better gear then u can proceed to nx lvl. Or just AH for short cut
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post Sep 28 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Sep 28 2012, 01:10 PM)
If thats the case, mind to share your build and stats?

So we have a bigger picture on the MP and we would have a benchmark.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/EAN-6902/hero/5919438

My weapon is in rmah bt the btm stat still retained. Basically I hav 100k dps, 31k hp, 4.5k armor, 500 resist, 0 LS/LOH in 1.0.5.

U may tin the prob lies on LS/LOH but I rather point it to the nerfed defence and subsequently DMG reduction. I've nt start to hit mobs already kiss floor at encounter of large group mobs.

LS/LOH will help but at the stage of nt reducing ur dps. 100k dps unbuff in mp10 is way too low unless u're enjoying killing mobs in minutes.

U should try ptr with ur monk as urs have 100k dps with LS & LOH. Then u will know what u r lacking of in MP10.


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post Sep 28 2012, 02:16 PM

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@ Aleune, A3 lor. Scorpion that we used to 1h but nw the other way round.

@ lifex, ya urs Monk may have better survivability. 1.0.5 may still nid 2 wks to come on9. Just my hunch.

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