I don't think PV condo can classify as mid hi end condo.

currently staying at PV13 & with their quality of work, max also mid end oni. my opinion.

if without tiles on corridor/walkway, the condo may consider low end already.... PV hv13 tiles on walkway but the workmanship is dropped as compare to earlier PVs.

Other PV I dont know but for PV 13, have access card or no access card is no difference bcos if u don't have access card, the guard will open the door for u... somemore there are lots of African staying here and they are very very noisy... i am not discriminate them but when a condo with many African staying, the condo will be downgraded.

Anyway, hi end or low end is very subjective. I just wanna highlight the issues in PV13 and hope these issues will happen to PV 15, 16, 17 and the phase 7.

i am not the owner for PV13 but just tenant. plan to move out after contract ended.

for ur info, PV 13 also doing the same... neeed to show the access card with pic which cost RM25 (RM20 deposit which is refundable & RM5 admin fee) for 1st year and subsequent year RM5 (admin fee).

but last time the security was not so strict & don't insist on seeing access card. now I don't know bcos I have 2 to 3 months didn't go gym & swim...hehe

no worry, still many demand bcos nowadays setapak not oni occupied by TAR College students but also Middle East & BLACK!!!!! I'm not kidding, if u go PV13, u can see how many BLACK there....but PV13 consider ok already bcos if u go the 3 old condo next to SRJK Chong Hwa at Jalan Pahang, Setapak, u will think that u are at Africa...

Heritage Condo, if not mistaken...

the problem is now population of African & Mid-east ppl is growing in PV Lake City area and the traffic is very very terrible especially during weekend night time. PV owners may say I'm carrying an agenda to spoil PV Condo market but what I said is from the point of tenant's view.

PV building management must do something eg prohibit owners from renting their condo to African & Mid-east ppl (I'm not discriminate them but they are very noise especially at night). anyway, I will be moving out after the end of my tenancy agreement.

PV Lake City = PV Genting Klang. PV 3 is part of PV Taman Melati.

PV Lake City consist of PV10, 12, 13, 15, 16 and coming PV 17 & 18.

as what I observed, PV 10 & 12 not much African but PV 13 which is newer than PV10 & 12, have a lot of African. not sure PV 15 (jz take key recently) & PV 16 (i think take key soon) will have many African move in o not. if so, it may mean it is a trend that African move in Setapak & god bless those bought PV17 & 18.

so far PV Taman Melati much better than PV Lake City and it a freehold. Bro staying PV8, not much students and mostly family staying. quite peaceful. mayb the sq ft is big and not suitable for students & affrican as the big sq ft occupied by living room.