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 SATRIA NEO CPS vIII, ~Limited Edition Force~

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mutt
post Jul 30 2012, 01:28 PM

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since when Proton car has speed cut? blink.gif

Remove the spoiler and test your top speed..
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Toke @ Jul 30 2012, 01:58 PM)
spoiler?.. hmm.. i fail to fully understand how can my spoiler reduce my top speed. can anyone explain in detail please?

plus, if remove spoiler tak nampak stylo alreadyy.  sweat.gif
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remove, test top speed than masuk R3 spoiler then test top speed again..
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post Jul 31 2012, 02:45 AM

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post Jul 31 2012, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 30 2012, 07:32 PM)
rev cut not at 5k rpm la
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Rev cut is at 7.2k RPM. But at fifth gear normally the rev stuck 5.5k RPM not because it has cut but it's due to our gearbox


Added on July 31, 2012, 2:49 am
QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 30 2012, 08:07 PM)
rev cut at around 7.2k rpm or 7.4k rpm
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You are right. My torque habis at 7000rpm.. then no point to push cos no power to push already..







Added on July 31, 2012, 2:51 am
QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 30 2012, 10:12 PM)
just run your car on dyno and see at what rpm the power drop, no point to rev high if the power start drop earlier then that.
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no need dyno, just redline at first and 2nd gear know already biggrin.gif


Added on July 31, 2012, 2:55 am
QUOTE(Toke @ Jul 30 2012, 08:29 PM)

The question is is it worth it to over rev . Our engine should be out of breath towards higher rpm no? hmm.gif

for me not worth it. tapi kadang-kadang nak test power or poyo sikit boleh la kot.

unless got extra engine for back-up. anyone selling the new turbo cfe engine? put inside satria neo comfirm laju punya.  drool.gif
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CFE is a bolt on turbo Campro. So we can just BOT our car and change to CFE internal basically our engine become CFE already but with extra oompphh (CPS) brows.gif

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post Jul 31 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 31 2012, 11:58 AM)
u sure ur torque max at 7k RPM? mine max at 4.6k RPM then start drop ady.
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Lemme show u my dyno chart in pm if u want smile.gif


Added on July 31, 2012, 12:10 pmI think u mean 4.6k at fifth gear right? Thats becos our gearbox limitation.

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post Jul 31 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(almightyfish @ Jul 31 2012, 12:11 PM)
MAY I KNW WHERE YOU DID UR DYNO ?
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GT Auto, why?
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post Jul 31 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 31 2012, 12:13 PM)
dont think there is limitation at the gearbox, tried when on the dyno, it dind't stuck at 5krpm also. I would say the engine don't have enough power to push it on the road.
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At 1st gear also cant push more than 5k?
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post Jul 31 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 31 2012, 01:17 PM)
im referring to your comment on the 5th gear, 1st to 4th gear of course can rev till rev cut, but 5th on the road, then engine don't have enuf power to push it.

btw, from your dyno chart, the line that goes all the way to 7rpm is the HP not the torque.

Btw, ur graph looks good, care to share what you have done?
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ya I know. but I ever drag race with my friend same car Waja CPS, his car 6500rpm already no power unlike mine where I can shift at 7000rpm and winning him by big margin. I am still not sure the no power or putus nafas is because of no more torque or because of lower hp?

Just 4-1 header cap ayam from Kakiexhaust and straight flow muffler from HKS (imitation) that's all. Recently I installed Works adj. cam pulley. Dunno whether got power increase or not. I tried 0-100kmh the result still the same like before install the ACP. My setting is to get mid to high end power. Need to dyno again, need to see the powerband difference.


Added on July 31, 2012, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jul 31 2012, 01:42 PM)
Fixed
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best is use the taboo word

BILLET


Added on July 31, 2012, 1:58 pm
QUOTE(shinjite @ Jul 31 2012, 01:37 PM)
You need CAMS bro =x
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sabar sabar... biggrin.gif

tunggu raya dulu.. hehe..



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post Jul 31 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Jul 31 2012, 01:59 PM)
well from ur chart, the max torque is at 5K RPM, im guessing the 4-1 header and the HP ?
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I believe so..
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post Aug 1 2012, 08:05 AM

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Just for u guys info, dastek measure on crank. If wanna know on wheel can try dynojet machine.
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post Aug 1 2012, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(ah qing @ Aug 1 2012, 09:45 AM)
even its on crank, the HP and torque is still high. Mine with Unichip also lower then that.
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See the mod list consider stage 2 already. Piggyback doesnt help much besides giving smoother enginr operation. He has installed FPR n complimentary kit so no need piggy already. Superstreet also known for giving noticeable power increase.


Added on August 1, 2012, 10:21 am
QUOTE(ah qing @ Aug 1 2012, 09:45 AM)
even its on crank, the HP and torque is still high. Mine with Unichip also lower then that.
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Yup but then hard to compare since many of us dyno based on wheel. Nothing's wrong with on crank but it'd be better if on wheel so that we can share our results n compare not to show whose car is better but to share info,knowledge n how to achieve the same result. Hehe..

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post Aug 1 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(almightyfish @ Aug 1 2012, 10:48 AM)
Mutt seriously the piggy back doesnt help mch ? Unichip and EMS which one work better on CPS? any one have any idea on it ?
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Power wise, it depends on the function of the piggyback. I myself never experience with piggyback, cos I wanna jump straight to standalone.
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post Aug 1 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(almightyfish @ Aug 1 2012, 10:44 AM)
How much ? Seriously i never want to knw the answer... haha~!
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Mostly what u done to your car only plug and play. How bout go for something extreme? brows.gif


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post Aug 1 2012, 12:10 PM

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adeh, terkena dgn sifu madman sweat.gif

Just from my opinion I'd go for standalone straight away cos piggyback will have limitation on modded engine unsure.gif


Added on August 1, 2012, 12:15 pm
QUOTE(almightyfish @ Aug 1 2012, 11:28 AM)
Ermmm, Cause i dun think i need a standalone for the momentn since the internal part of the engine still stock like hell ! But still confuse between EMS and Unichip ?! And also any one experience works clutch plate or exedy ?
heard that works result not impressive?
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What makes you confused? Both different brand/model some functions wouldn't be the same. I have tried a Neo CPS with 3 puck 8 1/2 inch exedy clutch. I can shift faster compare with my stock waja. 2nd gear wheelspin sweat.gif. I always think that racing clutch very stiff but after I tried, not that stiff la.. still acceptable for daily drive.


Added on August 1, 2012, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(XlimShady @ Aug 1 2012, 11:49 AM)
I see, what about the fuel railing and fuel injectors? Any effect on FC for those mods?

I might want to change my clutch soon also..... feels abit 'loose' like slipping especially when high rev from 1st gear then shift to 2nd. I feels like got some lag for the car to go forwards.  hmm.gif

Anyways, Exedy is a more established brand compared to Works, but the price also... hehe. Can try Dori-dori, they sell clutches also but not sure which brand. But I like their service very much.
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Exedy 3 puck 8 1/2 inch can be bought at Kakimoto Shah Alam for RM850. Wazi Motorsport also quoted the same price. GCC punya price sweat.gif

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