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ZeroSP
post Mar 6 2013, 10:08 PM

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Would appreciate a little help, looking for Japanese language classes nearby OUG/Sri Petaling.

I checked out ICLS and Teikyo... Well Teikyo is very formal, and their part time started class.

ICLS wise, traveling down to KL everyday is a bit tiring.

And I see you guys talking about text books? Where can I get them or take a glance? If I found it useful I probably buy them to self learn bit by bit in addition to classes.

Arigato Gozaimasu for your input... Minna-sama
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post Mar 6 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Flame Haze @ Mar 6 2013, 10:55 PM)
The best japanese textbooks can only be found in Kinokuniya at top floor, KLCC. Note that the store is divided into three parts, the English books part, Japanese books part and Chinese books part. You should be going to the Japanese books part, Language section. For beginners, I would recommend Minna no Nihongo I (JLPT N5) and Minna no Nihongo II (JLPT N4). Genki I and Genki II are also not bad and covers roughly the same stuff as Minna no Nihongo. Note that for Genki series, the translations for the Japanese text comes together in the same textbook while for Minna no Nihongo, you have to buy the translation book separately.

And oh, the books are wrapped up in Kinokuniya, so if you want to flip thru them, bring them to the counter and ask them to open it for you.

I'm personally using Minna no Nihongo to study Japanese. Doesn't come cheap 100+ bucks per book, but great value and very efficient if you are self studying. smile.gif
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Thanks you the input, it would be of great help.

Originally I only intended to learn speaking, listening (well as in understanding what they say), since understanding kana alone won't do much except well ya, you can read stuffs out.

But then after all, I realized there is nothing wrong is learning all together anyway.

Motive wise, hehe... I traveled to Japan twice, I liked there a lot but it's a shame that lack of proficiency in nihongo serves as obstacles... And also partially, I watch Detective Conan a lot, I feel like contributing to the subbing community should I achieve certain level of mastery.
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post Mar 8 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(jayhan @ Mar 8 2013, 04:28 PM)
I'm now going to A to Z Language Center for private class to improve my speaking skill. I passed N1 two years ago, seriously it doesn't mean I'm good in Japanese.
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But then I thought N1 is seriously not that easy either?

Some people told me speaking is slightly easier than writing, but mind the grammar a lot.

Writing wise, I think it is because some of them did not learn mandarin chinese, thus Kanji is a pain to them.
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(jayhan @ Mar 11 2013, 10:56 AM)
Indeed it's not easy! I'm just managed to score right above the passing line. Phew!  ぎりぎり合格しましたよ!

やっぱり毎日練習しないとだめ!
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But then still, congrats for passing N1... It is all about practice now.
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post Mar 20 2013, 12:30 AM

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Kanji still ok for me as we learn more than that during primary school, well only had to learn the new reading for Japanese though.
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:47 PM

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Just something, how do you guys learn words meaning after you mastered your kana(s)?
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Mar 22 2013, 10:14 AM)
im english-ed. kana is too easy for me, but im still having problems with kanji.
the only effective way i learn them is thru reading japanese subtitles while watching anime/movie,
or read/write a bunch of lyrics. by reading, i forget them easily, so i prefer writing them down.
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I am chinese-ed. So Kanji is rather easy to me.

By the way, is there any course just focusing on speaking and listening? Since I realized I need these 2 skills most rather than writing and reading.
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(noonies_naruto @ Mar 22 2013, 11:18 PM)
definitely can't open a dict and expect to just master every single meaning..

Usually the best thing to do is just enjoy it while learning..

Like, anime, drama, look at the subtitles  biggrin.gif
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Agreed, I used anime and songs at the moment... But then you know Japanese is different from the language we know, so while you can understand the sentence with the subtitles, you can't really catch the specific word meaning.

And yea, while I done learning kana, I am still slow reading them :S... It is like I can only read one by one slowly, and then try to combine a few together to see if it makes any sense lol...
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post Mar 24 2013, 12:08 AM

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Haha, great then... Well I am only watching Detective Conan though
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post Mar 29 2013, 05:07 AM

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Well I done with hiragana and katakana in 4 days... But yes, I am still reading it slow lol... It seems it will be long still before I can be good at it and start doing translation for anime.

Kanji umm well since I am Chinese ed no problem with it, but only to learn new reading and meaning.
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post Mar 29 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Flame Haze @ Mar 29 2013, 03:51 PM)
Kanji is seriously a lot more easier for us Chinese.  thumbup.gif
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Yep... When we saw the Kanji is like, wow we actually learn far more than that during primary school.
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post Apr 21 2013, 12:16 AM

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After learned all the kanas, I stopped quite a while. Still looking for a good class...

 

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