QUOTE(tikaram @ Jul 26 2012, 04:51 PM)
previously name as suria valencia.Investment Window On The Park, By Selangor Dredging Berhad
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Jul 26 2012, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Vestor @ Jul 26 2012, 11:15 PM) Yes, am quite amazed on the way all this "tag-team efforts" done by developer and banker in creating new highs in property launching during recent times. Developers collect virtually no upfront from purchasers, only keen to secure a signature and then they move on to construct. because of this tactic between developer and bank on the DIBS thing, young average joe will soon become victim as they had manipulated by the package that zero payment zero nothing until the unit completed. But they do not understand that the price had been mark up for the next 3 years. Once the property completed in the next 3 years, will the average joe having the holding power should they cant anchor a good rental or sub sale deal? Is just a gimmick how the banks nowaday locking the financial freedom to an average joe. Bayu pandan, G residence, Zeva, 3 element, and other mickey mouse house will trigger such panic on these young average joe in another 2 to 3 years. Some says mickey mouse unit is targeted for couple unit, but bear in mind that couple will look for family suites in another 2 to 3 years time. Mickey mouse house is actually a bad bad idea to call a home. Just a gimmick used by developer to maximise their profit and securing young buyers on the DIBS. Well, family suites like this SDB always a wise investment provided holding power is strong. |
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Jul 27 2012, 08:21 PM
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Jul 30 2012, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(razman2050 @ Jul 30 2012, 09:23 AM) bought a unit there. just the small premium unit (1164 sq ft). misleading. u still need to pay for the loan legal fee if u choose not to opt inside ur loan, and u still need to pay for the principle of loan which shall based on developer billing to ur banker.not sure will stay there, but i see a lot of potential there. SDB is one of the premium developer - a lot of development in s'pore as well. very reputable developer, unique concept, very low entry cost -pay 8k for booking (refundable), 10% discount, 7% bumi, DIBS, all fees absorbed. if eligible for 90% finance u only need to start paying in 3 yrs time. where can get such a good offer. and yes, 10% + 7% disc for a bumi is very gooding deal. |
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Jul 30 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(mcken @ Jul 30 2012, 12:46 PM) Hey Peri gor, no offense, just my 2 cents that the developer and bankers had loosen the eligible of loan to those young and average joe. Imagine nowaday those youngster with rm3.5k income can get a loan up to rm500k now. Something risk will injured them if they dont have strong holding power or financial upon completion. For me, Zeva(launched) is not in the category of mickey mouse house...It is a full suite service apartment with 2-3 bedrooms which has been launched. Their studio unit yet to be launched...so i belif zeva service apartment still good for own stay. m2cent But definitely will be a good buy for taikors like you. This post has been edited by peri peri: Jul 30 2012, 12:53 PM |
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jul 30 2012, 05:35 PM) Why not? with 10% rebate and DIBS, rm500k loan for 40 years tenure or up to 70 years old only cost rm 2120 a month after it completion. Youngster dying to get 1 to show off around members. Quite normal since DIBS introduced in year 2009. |
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QUOTE(poorchinaman @ Jul 30 2012, 11:46 PM) peri-peri, please be realistic, i really want to know which bank can offer 500k loan based on a person gross income at rm3.5k... if that person sign a statutory declaration that he wont eat & drink & will fully contribute his monthly income to pay installment also, none of the banks will entertain... Yeah, last 3 months im also sceptical with this like u on this. Yup, as clarified by most of the forumers here and with my bankers recently on a home loan i applied, is a yes! True good too be true. But dont be mislead, its not gross, its based on nett. As long the installement is not more than 70% of ur nett income. Panel normally provide this. U should check out the g residence, which banks? I believe plenty out there eager for more young and bold loan slaves. Its a business anyway. please let me know if there's really a bank existing to lend based on such requirement... Added on July 30, 2012, 11:56 pm peri-peri, i wondering if u really know about the project or if u've really been to the sales gallery to find out more about the project. FYI, all the legal fees, stamp duty and disbursement are ALL BORN by developer, provided u use back the SPA lawyer as loan solicitor and panel bank of SDB. For under construction loan, borrowers only need to service the loan interest and nothing on the principal UNLESS they opt to. for this WOTP case, I don't see any reasons/logic for the purchasers to pay the principal during construction since the interest during construction is FULLY taken care by SDB. Unless you feel unsafe even your money being locked in MILO tin.. Please conduct some fact findings to make this discussion more healthy. Regarding the DIBS, 1st time im hearing the buyer no need to install the principle progressively according to billing. Imagine, u apply loan, developer claim the billing periodically from ur bank, once billing stage disburse by bank to developer, bank will start bill the developer for loan interest, then, bank will bill the principle to who? Bank will wait everything to be complete and all loan amt disbursed to developer then start counting? Too good to be true right? As i said b4, price still steep for me to vest. But i still congrats to all new owners here. With such price tag, im delighted it will further boost my gain on paper for a condo that i booked recently which is nearby. World is fast changing and must alert with any possible hidden cost, thats why we share to discuss and learn. Listen does helps improve Added on July 31, 2012, 12:38 am QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 31 2012, 12:16 AM) there is a different if you are higher income as bank allow you to take higher ratio.. Haha, bro, dont mislead by others. I did not quote on gross income b4. Its based on nett income. I thought its common understanding here. There are some thread dicussing on this loan eligible thing few months back too. Just wanna share with any newbie not to miss the chance to vest tooThe ratio is not FIXED.. it is case by case basis.. 900k loan is roughly about installment 3k+ and your fren still hav few thousand to survive after deducting installment.. personally my installment to salary ratio adi hitting 60%.. just got my 3rd homeloan approved in April and hirepurchase approved last month.. but we are talking about 3.5k permonth and 2.2k installment... after minus tax and epf only left few hundred to survive hope peri-peri bro verify his claim, if can intro the bank and banker to us... This post has been edited by peri peri: Jul 31 2012, 12:38 AM |
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jul 31 2012, 12:40 AM) Hi peri. This is very true to be true. Dibs is a good thing. Principal remain unchanged and interest is calculated based on the portion of it released by bank to the developer and the developer pays the interest on behalf of the buyers. It is really Back in year 2008, recession strikes malaysia and all raw material hiked due to crude oil and lehman brothers bankrupt. In year 2009, sp setia initiate this DIBS thing with bank to boost the sales and restore the positive property market in 3 years time which is starting last year 2011. U can noticed a lot new launch in KV are offering DIBS or CIBS. But this year something is not right, With DIBS, the property price had speculated too high. Creating risk for holding power when complete. Most DIBS now starting price is above rm 500-600psft. Good and I have already benefited from it for my properties. Its just a season trend, who knows next year will come out wat package. Maybe 2 generation loan scheme like in hk and china. Haha. Thats why people always say developer and banker are crocs |
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Haih, DIBS = developer interest bearing scheme. But not developer bear all during construction. Developer must bear all interest during construction until VP
CIBS = construction interest bearing scheme, developer will bear all interest until CPC to main con only. Coz they might afraid the tnb and syabas meter will drag their VP later. Correct, buyer still serve the principle to bank during construction based on billing ratio. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 31 2012, 12:57 AM) DIBS long exist even before 2008.. its not new in the market n SP Setia was not the pioneer of such idea.. Its true, started since year 2005, but still not hot, people dont want to risk their investment as abandoned project are quite frequent from year 2002 to 2006. When in desperate time, SP kick start again to boost the sales using DIBS, people getting more faith on reputable developer. bankers are aggressively providing such to secure for intake of homeloan. The setia walk is a good vest from dibs |
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Yeah, ameera is a good benchmark from sdb, from rm400k now jumped to 750k in 2 years time. Conglats
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QUOTE(dann wilson @ Aug 24 2012, 08:41 PM) thanks bro peri2....then this place should b worth considering...i guess those buying here must be the nicer cream of the society yeah, sure do, is like investing something premium and exclusive with worth returns. No bullets, if not can invest 1, 10% disc, + dibs + semi furnish + branded developer in KV |
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QUOTE(poorchinaman @ Aug 26 2012, 12:38 AM) Good buy. But now I started to worry as even MBB also pull out from the financing of Block C temporary. MBB officer said due to pricing issue, but I guess it's due to middle cost apartment SPA signed with RM 400k 'upgrade' prices, even local authority also wondering how to approve it la... Reliable source from valuer and banker ascertained this... Even the AM and Head of Sales also personally admitted it will be signed at RM 100k basic, and the balance RM 400k++ as upgrade... Wow, very useful info. I always wonder how a developer to gain profit from the fixed price quota for low and medium units on land for than 5 acreas. So daring nowaday, control price 100k, but mark up 400% in other deeds to run away from the compliance. |
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QUOTE(ahmai2332 @ Aug 26 2012, 09:52 AM) The medium cost apt rules is must be there, is it because more than 5 acre land??? 100k medium cost apt + 400k upgrade. Don't know how to justify. u can try this link for guideline, http://www.rehda.com/industry/lchp/index.htmlMBB really pull out from the financing?? i hear only MBB can do Block C financing? So means now no bank able to do Block C loan? Not sure is under klang valley or outside klang valley, but any resident unit more than 50 unit and land is more than 2 to 10 acres, 30% medium cost imposed, control price range should be from rm72k to 95k, if im not mistaken |
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QUOTE(Helius @ Sep 4 2012, 10:08 AM) I'm one of the WOTP buyer.... I heard this 916 sf is considered as apartment and the cost is only subject to 100K?? And 400k as upgrading cost?? i think u shouldn't worry too much, with the price u pay, u still get back the same premium material, products and lifestyles offered by SDB. I think u will need to sign on 2 S&P later. 1 is 100k purchase and 1 is 400k upgrade. Its like a compliance to medium cost unit by authority, but finding ways to get out from this not to jeopardizing the overall premium concept. Imagine, if the developer really comply to the said 30% quota, u will mix with low or medium income tenant. Means the material they are using is low cost material for this block C???? After thinking many time, I'm wondering Y the block C is selling much much more compare to block A????? Block C = 916sf= 600k= 655psf?? Block A = 1650sf = 880K = 560psf??? And block A looks much more high end with luxury look and low density.... What is the developer judgement?? They are taking our 400K upgrading cost to spend on the park, but for all 500+ residents utilization... Pls anyone comment on ur view?? I really feel is a trap for this!!! I may jus cancel even I lost my 500..... Its a good practice nowaday because our minister is too lazy to improve such act which is totally irrelevant for limited lad use in KV. BTW, larger built up normally cost lesser in term of psft. but i believe both blocks also sharing the same great features and material offers. |
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QUOTE(Helius @ Sep 4 2012, 11:25 AM) Yes, I agreed with the concept of larger seize with cheaper price. Anyhow, definitely not with this much difference! last heard youcity also facing such situation but they aren't facing isolated facilities like your case. I'm wondering if wanna sell after I got VP, how the bank valuers judgement?? Based on 400K upgrade price? It is ridiculous when the subsales will be looking at which S&P?? I mean base at block A is definitely a good stay or investment.... But block C just look like a scam.... Medium cost building layout (door to door concept), highest density for this block, flat / apartment concept, no roof top, no own swimming pool but walk all the way to other block for facility. The worst is we pay higher than anyone to stay in this project.... We r just paying for their facility... No wonder hongleong pull out to finance this project..... i always thought bank valuation will base on overall development, renovation done and condition. Not basing any of your S&P price? u gotta point too , 30% of medium cost compliance squeeze in one block only is very high dense. is block C full furnish and block a semi furnish? definitely got something xtra for this block c purchase This post has been edited by peri peri: Sep 4 2012, 11:31 AM |
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