Grazt man,still not enough budget T.T

There should be a sticky thread to end this argument once and for all: which beginner DSLR is better, which midrange DSLR is better etc etc. Anyone who's asking is almost certainly gearhead instead of photographer looking for upgrade. A gearhead research into questions like which camera is superior, which imaging sensor is more solid (a bunch of bull, tell me again how the DXO marks of xxx camera makes you wet your bed at night).

An artist or photographer who really knows his stuff will research into which tool is most suitable to his need. Take for example, you like photojournalism? So your preferable lens range from 24-85mm, maybe you'll need some big aperture lens, any camera on the market has access to these lens, so it comes down to the question: price or aesthetic? If price is a concern, just get the most bang for value camera. If you like aesthetic like me, I'll save a little more and get 1 camera that always inspires me wanting to go out and shoot. Plastic DSLRs although they are very capable but I just don't get the same feeling when I'm holding my really obsolete+heavy as a mammoth's balls Mamiya RB.

TS you should see what type of photography you're interested to do, and willing to spend a lot of time to learn the craft, then head into that direction. Otherwise the next thread I'm about to see you start is "Which lens/flash should I buy".

Join some photography workshop. Sony always has a workshop for the Alpha/nex owners, Nikon too (I'm not Canon owner so I'm not sure about Canon), plus there are dozens other workshop for photojournalism, wedding, wedding journalism, food, event, portraiture, sports, race, glamour, nude, action, animals...

**ok enough rants. I'm having a bad day sorry =) But you know what TS, I have one camera with me since the first day I start photography, and I still actively using, is my Mamiya RB67. The output is unlike anything you see on...FB. It cost me only RM700 with lens. Developing is RM10 per roll and scanning RM5, film less than RM20 per roll. I always use it to shoot for fun. FUN, is the keyword here.

This post has been edited by kel_jink: Sep 17 2012, 12:00 PM

you should get a cold drink.............

Nah, I'm cool. It's a long post, I reread it again, my point still stands.

i posted this topic also got my own reason,because i really really new in DSLR,i mean ya i got take photo with Phone or other DC.i posted this topic because i want to know something about DSLR,which DSLR better for entry lvl photographer.dont you think that a entry photographer using a super high spec of DSLR is a waste?just that ya you might be think that me asking something stupid,but you also need to think why i asking?i can just simply go and buy a DSLR and showoff.but no,i want to learn.that y i am posting.and i appreciated those reply in this topic.they teach me alot also.if i didnt ask.i know nothing. no offence bro.

Don't stop learning cuz it's never end!!

but, make sure u'll fully utilize it & learn to the max!! jgn macam kawan ku.. jadi decoration & habuk... LOL!!

haha still learning while borrow my friend DSLR.XD.

I suggest that you 1st use a prosumer/semi dslr compact camera. It has almost all the same function of dslr except you cant exchange the lenses. Try and familiarise with it and once you are ready for the jump to dslr...then only you can jump into entery level dslr or high end. Seen many who jump straight to dslr without any knowledge of using it..will sold off their gear with in 6 months.

My cheap 2 cents,it doesn't matter which brand or model you select as your first dslr if you couldn't master the basic of taking right photography in the first place.As whatever model you select it will be replace in a year or 2 with newer specs and so on.Given the fact that photography has not changed since the first slr inception, it's all about nailing the correct exposure with aperture and shutter speed.And majority of entry dslr cameras just can do that.Branding affinity is more of a personal preference and who to say pentax owner couldn't take great picture compare to someone rocking a canon or nikon.And please don't use the pro use brand x in his career so it must be emulated.When you have great photos to show then you earn the right to brag about it lorr.LOL.

Go to a shop pick the one model you like and hold it with your hand to feel how does it handle.At the end it's you who are using it and not the tech sheet dictating how a photo is taken.A lot of us was too caught up with technology aspect and forgot how to enjoy photography.

I'm still no where near earning the right to brag.

Have fun.

Hi ts, I didn't mean any offence, but try reread my comment again, my point is:

1) determine what is your shooting preference/style
2) what is your deciding factor in buying camera (price or aesthetic)
3) learn how to shoot by attending workshop
4) the best tool of learning photography is the one that forces you to think, and ny recommendation is film slr that you can get them for cheap

I've already passed the "oh look you have a expensive cameras and you must be one of those spoiled brat who shoots only in auto" phase, what camera you own is none of my business as long as you are having fun with it and actually learning, and not shooting your lunch, or dinner, or supper, or random door knobs, or random self portrait. =)

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Added on September 20, 2012, 10:51 amAnother point is, ALL dslr in the market is good if not more than what you need to get into photography. Don't mind people saying lens availability if you don't see yourself upgrading lens every 1 year. One doesn't simply buy a lens every 1 year do they? For example my favorite is fix focal length, so I've completed my collection of 28mm, 50mm and 135 mm, I'm no longer shopping for lens anymore. Maybe from time to time I'll upgrade to better spec'ed (bigger aperture, metal construction...) and that's it.

This post has been edited by kel_jink: Sep 20 2012, 10:51 AM

how about canon 650D?

i think Canon will be the best for beginner. the 1100D, their DSLR is quite versatile. actually it's just the HD video recording. most of the Nikon doesn't have it.

i reread for few times already bro some point ya you are right,but some not really for me.maybe just the way you sent your message i misunderstood only.

Then I apologize for the way I word them. I was a gear head too, until I realised the limitation of my own cameras and my pocket. Just get the best camera you can afford, and learn to control and use it as much as you could. Learn its weakness; learn to be disappointed by your camera. Then you'll become better and better.