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 Hyundai Elantra MD Ver.7, Calling All Elantra Owners & Future Ones

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post Jul 11 2012, 08:55 PM

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1.8 owners, do u experience when press accelerator heavier during high gear, there is a low but audible noise? It's like a minor rubbing sound "zi zi " sound, hard to describe, like air sucking. Not sure if this is normal as I heard this from day 1.
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post Jul 19 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Jul 19 2012, 08:47 AM)
For good FC and better performance, u had to let the engine break-in....means ur mileage have to be 6k-7k....after that the real result will appear....
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It is a myth. New car nowadays, the engine has already been broken in from factory. If you refer to user manual, it only advise you to drive moderately in the 1st 1000km and the reason is to let the parts break in (eg: brake, transmission).

I would say neither I am the expert nor most of the guys here. I believe it is the best to just follow what stated in the user manual, wish is to drive the car within 2k rpm - 4k rpm, don't race the engine, don't do hard braking for 1st 1000km to protect the new car.


Added on July 19, 2012, 9:06 amBTW, I feel that the 1.8 is very sensitive to your right foot. Once you step more, or let the RPM rises above 2.5k rpm, the fuel consumption will shoot up. It also not particularly fuel efficient also when driving at very low speed, <40kmh. Since 1.8 is quite rev friendly (thanks to the new aluminium engine and efficient 6 speed G/box), you have to control your right feet very well to achieve <9L / 100km in city driving.

Highway is another story, I can easily achieve 6.2L/100km, 110kmh constant before 1st service.

Again, don't expect miracle in city driving. Only hybrid or very low cc car can be efficient in city driving.



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post Jul 30 2012, 08:59 PM

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Hi all, found that my coolant level is already at near low, remember from factory is around 3/4 to "F" full. The car milleage only around 1400km. Is this considered normal usage or there is some sort of leakage?
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post Jul 30 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(mdadnan @ Jul 30 2012, 09:07 PM)
drool.gif I think it's normal..because mine also like that..u just fill full with mineral water to the max, then it wont drops anymore.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the fast respond smile.gif Mineral water?? Why? I thought the user manual recommend us to use distilled water (battery water)? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:18 PM

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Seems like you guys also experience coolant level become lower and need to refill with water ? Maybe I give my SC a call tomorrow to confirm if it is "normal", just to be cautious as still under warranty period.

I used SC shell helix semi, since 5k need to do service again. It is wasteful to use fully. But I feel the engine oil is not good, 10W40 is a bit heavy, feel the throttle a bit sluggish before change. Plan to use own oil, still surveying which brand is good.

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post Jul 30 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(mdadnan @ Jul 30 2012, 11:09 PM)
drool.gif OK thanks so much for sharing info  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oh, by the way, owner manual is recommending 5W-20 or 5W-30. Don't know why SC recommend shell oil as their semi (hx7) is 10W-40 and fully (helix ultra) is 5W-40. Both is "thicker" than recommended SAE which may cause higher fuel consumption.

Will bring my own oil at 5K service I guess, I know some owners have done so.. smile.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(fabho @ Jul 31 2012, 02:44 PM)
Well i can suggest Chemlube, fully synthetic esther base oil http://www.chemlube.com.my/product.html. Been using this in my previous car and satisfied with it and will use this for my 10k oil change.
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Where to buy this? Seems good.


I have called my SC, the technician said for a low mileage (1400km), the coolant drop to low is abnormal and told me to take the car back to SC to check. Sian... blush.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Jul 31 2012, 11:27 PM)
SOP will take pic and send report for claim. since i already open up the complain on this defect few weeks back. i think more n more will come forward and SD will know it's a common defect smile.gif
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Can share the photo of the defect ?

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post Aug 16 2012, 08:59 AM

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taizi5566, no such function I am afraid. Only bluetooth calling.

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post Aug 16 2012, 02:33 PM

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I also don't find bluetooth streaming necessary. However, this HU is definitely not a high end one.

Few personal little gripes on the HU including:
1. Buggy playing songs from pendrive size >4GB (my largest disappointment as 4GB pendrive is almost obsolete now)
2. HU interface respond speed is a little slow, especially when finding address in GPS. However I found that GPS refresh speed is OK, satellite searching speed is also quite fast.
3. Audio quality definitely only sub par, I found that it loses out even to my aftermarket 1-Din philips cd player as the cd player has more oomph and better clarity.
4. Using GPS and listening to music simultaneously, ocasionally got "pop" "pop" sound when switching between GPS voice and music.
5. Interface graphics is too generic to my taste.

Other than that, the HU is working flawlessly.

By the way, I found that Civic 2.0 Navi HU is much faster and equipped with Garmin.
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post Aug 16 2012, 09:12 PM

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did you turn on?

Wiper sequence (downward)
Off
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Auto
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Slow
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Fast

If upward is single swipe. Auto rain sensor can adjust wiping speed according to rain heaviness. This is one of the feature I like the most.
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post Aug 16 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(taizi5566 @ Aug 16 2012, 09:29 PM)
thx bro, will try again and check, btw the adjustable bar beside there is for wat?

and one more thing, regarding the so-called "cluster ionizer", do i need to switch it on as well or it comes by default alrdy?
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Adjustable bar is for time interval adjustment between each wiping. Also apply for Auto if I am not mistaken.

We don't have the option to switch off the ionizer, believe it is built in. Can't prove it anyway. If korean version, ionize wording will be shown on LCD.


Added on August 16, 2012, 10:07 pm
QUOTE(sbvc79 @ Aug 16 2012, 09:39 PM)
Hi elantrian out there, I book the 1.8 last month n the SA still not sure when can get the car, so try the mazda3 this afternoon full spec 2.0 , the new face lift model is rm124k come with gps reverse camera n staff, only without the sun roof, now hanging in between!!! The power is awesome n with paddle shift u can play with, any comment from out there ??
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Is the facelift skyactive or non skyactive? Elantra wins in terms of NVH, interior space, fuel consumption, 6 speed transmission. M3 wins in terms of performance (not a fair comparison anyway, 2.0 vs 1.8), and driving dynamics. But I heard M3 2.0 is a fuel drinking monster.

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post Aug 17 2012, 08:44 AM

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Woot, nice projector. I think the projector really fits the sexy headlamp curve of elantra well. It's a shame that projector lens was dropped.
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post Aug 23 2012, 09:39 PM

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666devil, can you share your 1.8 fuel consumption?

I myself still not quite satisfy with the fuel consumption, so far able to achieve the best is 6.8l / 100km (calculated, computer showed 6.4l / 100km) 90 % highway 10% city, 110-120kmh. If full city drive, with constant short distance trip + minor hill climbing, never can get below 10l / 100km.

I know some Civic fb owner can already achieve as low as 5.4 l / 100km constant 80kmh.

I am wondering if I change to fully synthetic oil in my 2nd service will help...

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post Aug 25 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(666devil @ Aug 24 2012, 09:29 AM)
That's normal for city drive. Again I comparing with my ex 1.8 altis. Same FC
If constant 80km/h, our owners club gang already achieved 5.3L/100km.
There is no miracle in city driving unless u get a hybrid.
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No offence bro, but if I were you I will not be satisfied if it is same fc with altis 1.8 (not mistaken, it is pre-fl 4 speeder? ) as Elantra is claming a far superior mix driving fuel consumption than altis. Anywa, I really enjoy driving my elantra, no doubt.

80km/h can achieve 5.3L/100km with elantra 1.8 or 1.6? If it is 1.8 I must say "wow !"

Yup, agree that no miracle in city driving as too much variation in terms of traffic and such. I actually did say the same thing to others. Now I am trying my best to keep my right foot as gentle as possible, and not rev pass 2k if possible (very hard as our 1.8 and 6 speed ratio is rev friendly) and try to avoid heavy traffic as much as possible. I will see what fc I get in the end. If I need to drive like an idiot to achieve a near to factory claim consumption rating, I will say that there is a big flaw in the factory rating as it is unachievable under "normal" driving. What for to buy a 1.8 car while you need to drive so gentle with slow acceleration in order to achieve the rated fc? Hyundai mustn't be so ambitious with their advertised FC as they know in real world, alot of things need to be taken into account.

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post Aug 26 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(666devil @ Aug 25 2012, 10:20 PM)
US test it in their highways. And their highway are really 5 lane super ways.
As for comparison, I am comparing with horror stories ppl say korean cars suck petrol. So my logic is, nowadays if same as japs, damn good dy.
Anyway, the only to achieve good FC while city driving is downgrade to light car(perodua?) or hybrid.
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Guess they should really revise the way they test the fuel consumption. Engine wise, japanese maybe still has the edge in low end torque I guess.

Yup, korean cars have improved alot, so far very satisfied with the elantra, more than 4k milleage, no rattling, vibration, very solid car. Assembly quality seems to be better than some japanese rival.

Only one complaint is the exhaust hissing sound is quite obvious when on hard acceleration (with audio turn off), don't know if any owner notice that. Went to SC to check they say it is normal exhaust sound, but as I was on a rush, I didn't further question.

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post Sep 21 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(mdadnan @ Sep 20 2012, 06:25 PM)
drool.gif As usual..at Chin Car 3S..Silibin area, ipoh. Now i'm using Perodua 5W30 Semi Synthetic produced by Petronas (RM80)..hopefully it's better than Helix X7  icon_rolleyes.gif
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There is a new HX7 E selling recently, 5W-30, not sure if SC has it? Don't have a good feeling for Petronas engine oil, I will still stick with Shell. However, still curious if changing to thinner oil will get much better FC. Please keep posting to let us know. Also, I found that computer FC is not reliable, it can vary from 0.3L/100km to 1.1L/100km lower from actual calculation, example manual calculation yield 10L/100km but computer shows 8.9L/100km, but on the other day when I was cruising all the way on the highway, computer shows 6.3L/100km but after filling up, manual calculation yield 6.8L/100km.

Shell HX7 E

I am going to do 5k service soon, probably will "upgrade" to use shell helix ultra 5W-40. Currently still not happy with with my 1.8 FC. Lowest I can get is 6.8L/100km with 95% highway 110-120km/h, city average 10L/100km. Browsing through the new civic thread, I know that even 2.0 owner can get better FC. Right now I think the culprit of the sub-par FC of our elantras would be 1)Overly thick engine oil (owner manual recommend 5W-20 or 5W-30) 2)DOHC engine, lower torque at low RPM, slightly higher RPM or in layman term, need to step on the gas pedal to get satisfying acceleration. Besides FC, everything else work flawlessly, only a small complaint from me is the intrusive exhaust hissing sound when step more on the gas pedal.

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post Sep 21 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 21 2012, 11:31 AM)
Bro, most modern cars can achieve 5L/100km at constant 90kmph. Isnt really something special. But even then these are just figures. The biggest contributer to FC is the way u drive. So i wouldnt really bother about these FC figures. If u drive un-economically then even ure in a fuel saving car, ure still gonna get high consumption.
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I doubt that, if compare apple to apple, meaning 1.8 to 1.8.

Preve 1.6 normal for example, FC @90kmh constant, 5.8L/100km, Preve 1.6 CFE 6.6L/100km based on official website.

I know Honda Civic and new Altis can achieve below 6L/100km but your statement "5L/100km is achievable by most modern car under 90kmh constant" is very misleading. Provide facts, don't "big cannon".

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post Sep 21 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 21 2012, 01:40 PM)
Bro, before u accuse anybody of being a 'big cannon' u need to understand how car manufacturers come up with these fuel ratings. Go and read up and tell me how many cars on the road today can actually get the exact same readings provided by the manufacturers. The reason being, they have been tested under ideal conditions not actual road conditions. If ure not sure what 'ideal' conditions mean then i suggest u read more.

I have tested my own K5 FC and i have achieved 6.0L/100km at a constant speed of 110kmph. So how much would my FC be at 90kmph? Do u really think that 5.0L is difficult to achieve? The new Camry 2.5L would also easily achieve 5L/100km at a constant speed of 90kmph. Do u know the RPM of a Camry 2.5L at 110kmph is only 2750? How much would that RPM be at 90kmph? The new Passat 1.8L can also achieve 5L/100km at 90kmph easily with its 7 speed DSG. The first generation year 2003 Vios 1.5L with a 4 speed GB can achieve 6.7L/100km at 110kmph. At 90kmph, it would be just below 6L/100km.

But as ive said before, FC figures depend highly on the driving style. Data provided on brochures are just for reference and rarely replicated in reality.

So while u base your 'facts' on ideal test results provided by manufacturers to boost sales, my facts are based on actual data from drivers.

Who's the loose cannon now?  biggrin.gif
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You sound like you are contradicting to your own argument. We all here are Elantra owners, we are talking about real world consumption. I am not interested in ideal condition. Thats why I doubt your statement that 5L/100km is achievable by "most" modern car..

So many facts wow, you really have tested all the cars, get to the fuel station and manual calculated the FC of all the cars don't you...? rclxms.gif Glad that you can share with me a few photo of the consumption you recorded for those cars, thanks. So you own a K5, but here is Elantra thread just to remind you... biggrin.gif No need to throw so many things at me at once. There are a few reason why I come out with the argument.. I am talking about real world consumption, not instant FC meter or few minutes computer FC figure.

About elantra 1.8:
1. 110kmh constant at about 2450rpm, lower than camry 2.5L.
2. 90kmh, flat road, FC is <5.5L/100kmh, rpm around 2100.

But we know, Malaysia road is not perfectly flat, especially at NSHW. Most of the automatic cars have tall final gear ratio to maximize the fuel efficiency, hence a small degree of uphill will sometimes force the gearbox to downshift, which will kill the FC instantly. I am talking about real world consumption, not computer FC.

And lastly, we are sharing Elantra owner experience, not your "professional auto car experience".

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post Sep 21 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 21 2012, 02:40 PM)
Ure a joke. When i provide facts, u ask for photos. When u talk about Proton its fine but when i bring up the FC of Camry, K5 and Passat, u say this is Elantra thread. When u talk about data provided by a brochure its fine, but when i provide actual data from owners, u say something else. U claim i contradict my own statement. How can that be when im still saying the same thing? Nothing has changed. I was refering to actual FC readings. It was u who assumed otherwise. Or maybe u dont quite understand what 'contradicting' means?  hmm.gif

U asked if i tested the FC myself. I didnt and its pretty obvious from my earlier post. Tha data was provided by owners based on real consumption not something provided from computers either. Bt somehow u are confident that most modern cars cant achieve 5L/100km FC. So my question to you would be did you test out other cars to ensure that they cannot achieve these figures? A taste of your own medicine.

Btw, i made a mistake with my earlier statement about the Camry 2.5L RPM. Its 1,750 at 110kmph. Not 2,750 as stated.

And its alright to compare with other makes. That will allow u to see where your car stands. No harm at all.
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I have read many of your reply from several thread. Maybe this is your source of excitement.

Well, anyway, Yes I am a joke. You win. icon_rolleyes.gif

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