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post Jan 26 2006, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Garfie @ Jan 26 2006, 08:31 PM)
ARGHHH!
my OC ain't stable...*sniff* prime and occt and memtest86+ passed, but it hangs during processing

my bet is on my enlight 420w psu...guess it ain't supplying enuff juice since i OC my gc too....oh well, CNY's coming. any nice + cheap + good psu to recommend ar?

no cap ayam psu or icute aka akucomel psu yah....tqtq
Wait for dinster's fortron bluestorm bulk open once again.. that is the best one to invest on.. stability vs performance vs price is really3x great.. highly recommended in most of OC forum.. adjustable rails, u can simply adjust the 12V,5V n especially 3.3V rail at the pot available inside.. but if u're not on SLI.. blush.gif

QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jan 26 2006, 09:05 PM)
Provided the vdimm is not at SPD default, then I would say don't take a chance. Hey, we are overclockers, CnQ? What's that anyway.
Seriously i dunno nothing bout it b4.. By most of my reading, this thing was always highlighted in 1st place, so i never enable it even on stock.. laugh.gif

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post Jan 27 2006, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 27 2006, 08:17 PM)
At stock setting and CnQ enabled

Temps at idle
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Temps at load
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I noticed at even at stock settings, the temps at load is just a few degrees less than at OC speeds.
sidenote: My Smartguardian's readings is really weird. Even at idle, it reports CPU temp at 47c and the settings in Options are greyed out.
wah ur fan rpm even surpass 4k.. mine the highest ever was 3600 only.. happy.gif
one more thing, software reading is always inaccurate..

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post Jan 27 2006, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(nasik @ Jan 27 2006, 08:59 PM)
eh wanna ask, isit normal to have 40c system temp? i overclocked my amd 3000+ abit untill 2.4ghz
what do u mean by system?.. ur procs or mobo?.. n which mobo did u use?..
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post Jan 27 2006, 10:26 PM

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on Infinity 40-45C would be the average nb temp.. but touch them.. u'll know how hot they are.. laugh.gif still looking for a replacement for this stock nb heatsink.. quite hard tho coz some heatsink will be blocked by the gc.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 27 2006, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jan 27 2006, 10:34 PM)
what the highest speed for default vcore u can get??
i can boot at 280HTT.. prime stable at 270HTT..
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post Jan 27 2006, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Jan 27 2006, 11:10 PM)
i'm running at 267 x 9.not priming yet but can finishing super PI 2M
consider good edi.. prime them see how it goes..
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post Jan 28 2006, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(t007 @ Jan 28 2006, 01:23 PM)
Dude, how to know that the CnQ is running? Already turn on all the recommended feature like BIOS CnQ on. Minimum energy save and install the CnQ AMD driver.
follow this old man guides here and here..

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post Jan 28 2006, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(LittleLinnet @ Jan 28 2006, 11:29 PM)
since this thread has become database why not rename the topic title ?
what is so important with that?.. huh.gif
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post Jan 29 2006, 07:31 PM

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my latest result.. 295x9 @ 1.568..
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i cant reach 300htt stable.. cry.gif
even i hentam 1.7V.. laugh.gif
changin to better hsf will do guyz? unsure.gif
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post Jan 29 2006, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bahlol @ Jan 29 2006, 08:34 PM)
raise the chipset voltage abit & set lower ram initial speed. also look at the ram 1T/2T memory timing. 2T will improve stability at high cpu clock speed with a performance penalty.

heat increase = resistance increase. better hsf will help lowering the cpu temperature and resulting better electric signal within the cpu circuitry.
thanx for the response.. but i guess the ram isnt the prob.. tried b4 it manage to get stable at DDR590@2.5-3-3-7 w/o any hassle.. for the chipset i use the 3x HT multiplier..
so probably the temp it is rite mate?.. probably i'll get 120cm fan for the stock heatsink n see how it goes.. nice hsf is too worthy for a few 5Mhz increament laugh.gif
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post Jan 29 2006, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bahlol @ Jan 29 2006, 09:04 PM)
this is not the case actually. 1 thing to remember is athlon64 family have integrated memory controller (IMC). higher memory speed will heighten the burden on the IMC. athlon64 can be easily push too more than 500MHz from it's original speed but on higher clock speed the IMC will become the limiting factor along heat.
yup i notice that.. but so far, the procs perform very well.. so i guess it has a 'better' memory controller.. i'll give it a try neway.. better do than nothing.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(xpentor @ Jan 29 2006, 09:06 PM)
As according to my review in order to overclock under a stock heatsink u might wanna consider to remove the IHS... but u gotta do it carefully though, try to visit my website www.xpentor.com find an article about removing it. it's well worth it. 6C difference!
i'll try them for sure once the processor warranty expired.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 29 2006, 09:26 PM)
For the record, I would like to say that we should only post results if it represents an optimum/balanced setup.

Forcing the RAM to run below spec just to get high CPU core speed is not an accurate representation even if it is SP2004 stable.
i cant find any related between 'RAM' and 'stock A64 cooling' as the title say..
u need to change the topic if u really mean it..

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post Jan 31 2006, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 30 2006, 09:44 AM)
Well when I started this topic, I did not know anything about overclocking. I know you OC a bit using the stock HSF, but I don't know how far. That was the original purpose of this topic.

Now that this topic has become some sort of a collection of results. I would like the results to be comparable as I now know you can get higher CPU core speed by running the RAM at below spec. Therefore % gained is incorrect.

or do you people want seperate headers on the 1st post to show something like this....
Stable overclock (optimum CPU/RAM setup)
Stable overclock (Max CPU core speed)
hye dude.. if ur procs can achieve higher clock speed, why bottlenecking them by ur ram??.. i believe we're concentrate to the A64 stock cooling rite?.. if not, we got other database here.. so wat is the purpose of this database actually?.. think of it.. by all mean u're thread starter neway, so all decision is in ur hand.. furthermore it was just my humble opinion.. not much than that.. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Bahlol @ Jan 30 2006, 05:57 PM)
well CoffeeDude now i understand your situation. high congratulate to you for starting this topic considering u have less knowledge about overclocking. i'm sure whoever interested to seek up the challenge here will have no issue giving you out enough input to make the database/result better.

we have a database for ram overclocking/benchmark and gpu benchmark here. IMO it will be better to stick with the initial topic along it's requirements without limiting the technique either by software (excluding software for cheating) or hardware (excluding the stock HSF).

my suggestion here u may seperate the header for difference class of speed such:

1. 3000+
2. 3200+
....... and so on.

after all it's up to u to decide how the data on the database is filled.
yo mate.. stop babbling around and join us by post ur result.. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 31 2006, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Jan 31 2006, 08:31 PM)
ello guys... wanna ask... im sure that room temperature will effect how well cooling can take place... tried OCed my proc in my sig, 265*9, ddr333, 1.45v manage to pass 3 hours prime 95 but my temp almost reaching 50 which i think is da highest i wanna go... can sumone confirm wats da recommended temp other keeping it safe below 50... btw my room temp is almost reaching 30 degreeC... quite hot rite...

here's my stepping :
ADA3000DAA4bw
LBBWE 0545CPAW
for benchmarking, around 55-60 still in the safe temp imo.. but 24/7 usage it is very recommended to keep ur procs running below 50..
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post Jan 31 2006, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Jan 31 2006, 08:53 PM)
thanks for the quick reply... will try later to hit 300htt since there has been report of my rams can hit dat high on loose setting and of cource divider.... btw should i off my folding first before doing prime... last time manage to prime 3 hrs 265*9 ddr333 with ym on and folding at 50%oops.gif .... hrmm come to think of it, maybe thats the reason for da high temp sweat.gif ....
if u procs can still stable at that clock speed, why not?.. smile.gif
no it wont be any diff.. i've tested it b4.. stress the procs use the prime95 alone, and another prime+folding+winamp+ym+surfing+mircosoft word.. the temp still stand the same.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(diablo69 @ Jan 31 2006, 09:11 PM)
hrmmm.... if it does not effect da temp, wat bout da stability... since folding oledi eating up 50% proc load, wat happens if run a blend prime or 2 sets of prime....
that why i said it depends to ur procs for the stability..
simply, use the prime only to make sure..

i dunno so much about folding app, but read somewhere someone said the app will run as background services while u do ur work.. mean if u play games while folding, u will not face any lag prob.. so i guess its the same thing applied while u prime.. im not really sure bout this.. but i fold while prime+some app+doing my assgnment at 295HTT and the procs still running stable.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Feb 2 2006, 11:34 AM)
My result :

50% * 2700MHz * 245MHz * ahpaul82 * E3 LBBLE 0516 CPBW # DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D * Corsair XMS3200PRO 512MBx2 * 1.5v+110% * 53c  smile.gif
good E3 in house finally.. nicely done bro.. smile.gif
but sadly, what happen to ur ram?.. sweat.gif what is the rev?..

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post Feb 11 2006, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Hoodlums @ Feb 11 2006, 05:27 PM)
Which better AMD64 3200 s939 + vs AMD64 Opteron 144 s939?  rolleyes.gif
for sure opteron dude.. smile.gif
A64 3200+ ==> 512kb L2 cache
opteron ==> 1mb L2 cache
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post Feb 26 2006, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Feb 26 2006, 01:35 PM)
Here's an update smile.gif
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LBBLE 0522 FPBW

Idle temp - 40C-41C(BIOS 43C)
Full load - 46C-48C(BIOS should be 50C++)
Vcore = 1.36V(STOCK)
Vdimm = 3.20V (512MB TWSP BH-5)
LDT = 3X
HTT - 289x9
Mobo - DFI LP UT NF4 SLI-D
HSF - AMD STOCK HSF

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faster push it to the max la bro.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2006, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Mar 1 2006, 03:00 PM)
Wish you luck,heard that new week 060x doing great on stock. thumbup.gif
Set value 1.4v bios cpu core using 1.38v.
Have a look in s939 overclocking database."Stock volt for venice is 1.4v". smile.gif
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just want to confirm ur statement.. --> here

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