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post Jun 21 2012, 02:28 AM, updated 14y ago

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Chapter 6.1 Perubahan Pentadbiran ke Arah Berkerajaan Sendiri.
Kind of confused about the Pentadbiran Tentera British (PTB) or British Military Administration (BMA) in this chapter. Form 3 textbook kind of confusing...
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1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?

2. What is this Cession Bill functioned as a law or what it is? And what type of Law was it?

3. What does this PTB actually do. Besides the statement above. And how this Administration work as and what they really do?

4. On 1st July 1946, is PTB is stopped and be replaced by a new system?

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2" itu saiz otak awak kah? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(nearlee @ Jun 21 2012, 02:32 AM)
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rclxub.gif /k/ doesn't have old fags History Teachers rclxub.gif ?
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:28 AM)
Chapter 6.1 Perubahan Pentadbiran ke Arah Berkerajaan Sendiri.
Kind of confused about the Pentadbiran Tentera British (PTB) or British Military Administration (BMA) in this chapter. Form 3 textbook kind of confusing...

Sarawak selepas kekalahan Jepun
Sarawak selepas kekalahan,
Setelah WW2 tamat, pihak British telah memperkenalkan Pentadbiran Tentera British (PTB) pada 10 September 1954.
Semasa PTB, usaha telah dijalankan untuk mengembalikan ketenteraman, pemulihan ekonomi dan mengemas kini pentadbiran.
Sarawak berada di bawah PTB sehingga 1 Julai 1946.

Sarawak diserahkan kepada kerajaan British
... Ekoran bantahan tersebut, Pejabat Tanah Jajahan meminta Charles Vyner Brooke mendapatkan persetujuan penyerahan Sarawak secara perundangan dan demokrasi. Charles Vyner Brooke telah merujuk perkara tersebut kepada Majlis Negeri. Setelah bersidang selama tiga hari Mejlis Negeri meluluskan Rang Undang-Undang Penyerahan Sarawak atau Cession Bill dengan 18 undi menyokong penyerahan dan 16 undi menentang. Usul penyerahan disokong oleh ahli bukan bumiputera. Pada 1 Julai 1946, kerajaan British mengisytiharkan Sarawak sebagai Jajahan Mahkota British. Sir Charles Arden Clarke dilantik menjadi Gabenor British yang pertama di Sarawak.

1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?

2. What is this Cession Bill functioned as a law or what it is? And what type of Law was it?

3. What does this PTB actually do. Besides the statement above. And how this Administration work as and what they really do?

4. On 1st July 1946, is PTB is stopped and be replaced by a new system?
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lol, 1954..............betul sebiji macam kuda!!!!!
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Dem boring subject.

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post Jun 21 2012, 02:37 AM

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u fikir kami orang sejarawan?

most of us forgot dy ler
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QUOTE(Jejilat @ Jun 21 2012, 02:34 AM)
2" itu saiz otak awak kah? unsure.gif
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Doktor kata otakku macam Albert Einstein kecil tapi powerful. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jun 21 2012, 02:35 AM)
lol, 1954..............betul sebiji macam kuda!!!!!
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QUOTE(seba @ Jun 21 2012, 02:37 AM)
u fikir kami orang sejarawan?

most of us forgot dy ler
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Because tahi internet and wikipedia no this stuff. Looking to ask /k/ who still remember this shiatz rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:40 AM)
Because tahi internet and wikipedia no this stuff. Looking to ask /k/ who still remember this shiatz  rclxub.gif
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aiyo buy buku rujukan ler

the text book got it all la...why need rujuk internet apa tahi?

summore bulat2 only ma...

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Jun 21 2012, 02:35 AM)
Dem boring subject.

Pmr bulat bulat onli meh!
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QUOTE(seba @ Jun 21 2012, 02:41 AM)
aiyo buy buku rujukan ler

the text book got it all la...why need rujuk internet apa tahi?

summore bulat2 only ma...
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Searched my sister and brother old buku rujukan all no other information about it...
Buku Teks got problems... Never stated clearly...
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check with internet lar, rather than you acting like kuda u go google it better
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1 - Yes
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jun 21 2012, 02:45 AM)
check with internet lar, rather than you acting like kuda u go google it better
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You think this 2" never did some Googling before asking @@"
Cession Bill tak wujud. Even PTB / BMA never said anything about Sarawak / Sabah in Wikipedia...
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 05:28 AM)
Chapter 6.1 Perubahan Pentadbiran ke Arah Berkerajaan Sendiri.
Kind of confused about the Pentadbiran Tentera British (PTB) or British Military Administration (BMA) in this chapter. Form 3 textbook kind of confusing...

Sarawak selepas kekalahan Jepun
Sarawak selepas kekalahan,
Setelah WW2 tamat, pihak British telah memperkenalkan Pentadbiran Tentera British (PTB) pada 10 September 1945.
Semasa PTB, usaha telah dijalankan untuk mengembalikan ketenteraman, pemulihan ekonomi dan mengemas kini pentadbiran.
Sarawak berada di bawah PTB sehingga 1 Julai 1946.

Sarawak diserahkan kepada kerajaan British
... Ekoran bantahan tersebut, Pejabat Tanah Jajahan meminta Charles Vyner Brooke mendapatkan persetujuan penyerahan Sarawak secara perundangan dan demokrasi. Charles Vyner Brooke telah merujuk perkara tersebut kepada Majlis Negeri. Setelah bersidang selama tiga hari Mejlis Negeri meluluskan Rang Undang-Undang Penyerahan Sarawak atau Cession Bill dengan 18 undi menyokong penyerahan dan 16 undi menentang. Usul penyerahan disokong oleh ahli bukan bumiputera. Pada 1 Julai 1946, kerajaan British mengisytiharkan Sarawak sebagai Jajahan Mahkota British. Sir Charles Arden Clarke dilantik menjadi Gabenor British yang pertama di Sarawak.

1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?

2. What is this Cession Bill functioned as a law or what it is? And what type of Law was it?

3. What does this PTB actually do. Besides the statement above. And how this Administration work as and what they really do?

4. On 1st July 1946, is PTB is stopped and be replaced by a new system?
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the story is Sarawak was actually (free country) cos the British won with the- allies brooke. but british were broke n cant financed the brooke, so PTB took over. ..then sarawak was independence, but none knew it as its like internal dealing.

PTB work as a write off to free British from too many nation cannot handle situation.
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:43 AM)
Searched my sister and brother old buku rujukan all no other information about it...
Buku Teks got problems... Never stated clearly...
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lulz jangan risau la..
soalan suma berdasarkan buku teks..
baca buku teks = A
no need buku rujukan...
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Sarawak was granted independence after PTB and became a country prior to joining the federation of Malay states, Singapore, Brunei and sabah.

However Brunei decided to pull out @ last minute because the federation are deemed not to benefit people of Brunei as they've large chunk of petroleum and insisted that the oil to be kept to the kingdom.
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:28 AM)
1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?
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Yes. A crown colony is just a fancy way of saying "this is part of the British Empire, you're going to follow our ways of governing it."
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Sarawak once was Brunei. The some shit happen, the Pengiran ask help from Brooke. Brooke win the fight, he gave top Kuching part to him. Brooke when greed mode, he took over almost all of it and leave only brunei alone.

Some shit happen after brooke and charles died, no one can really mentadbir sarawak that time. so the brooke family give sarawak to british to help manage it. most people getting sadding because brooke once already promise to free sarawak but seems it not gonna happen when british take over.

then british rule sarawak until the comunists start making shit and finally the independence day with the tanah melayu, singapork, and sabah.

but then again, some idiot in sarawak here wanted to free sarawak as independece nation nowadays. thinking that theres good enough leader to manage shiats out of the country bahaha
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:28 AM)
1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?

2. What is this Cession Bill functioned as a law or what it is? And what type of Law was it?

3. What does this PTB actually do. Besides the statement above. And how this Administration work as and what they really do?

4. On 1st July 1946, is PTB is stopped and be replaced by a new system?
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1. no, it's now British Crown Colony (I think Hong Kong was BCC as well, before it passed to China)
2. allow Majlis Negeri to debate and vote if Sarawak wants to be as British Crown Colony.
3. PTB is military admin. Mostly military men and women in the state's admin.
4. yes.
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:28 AM)

1. So the PTB still continued and took power after 1st July 1946?
No

2. What is this Cession Bill functioned as a law or what it is? And what type of Law was it?
Just a law to end the Arm force from power

3. What does this PTB actually do. Besides the statement above. And how this Administration work as and what they really do?
Just like any other army style govt in the world such as Myanmar, the old Thais Govt under army, Taiwan old Govt & even the pervious Pakistan Govt - all controlled by the armies

4. On 1st July 1946, is PTB is stopped and be replaced by a new system?
Yes liao. Go back to Civilian rules
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Simple as ABC.. just using my common sense to answer you.

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not answering but i wanna ask instead.. hehehe... under the ruling of brooke family, sarawak is not directly under the queen of england rite? brooke family is some kind of private penjajah power.. am i rite or wrong?
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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 21 2012, 07:48 AM)
not answering but i wanna ask instead.. hehehe... under the ruling of brooke family, sarawak is not directly under the queen of england rite? brooke family is some kind of private penjajah power.. am i rite or wrong?
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depends on who was the rajah that time.
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if textbook dont hav then no ned do extra search d, if kampung ppl can get A in sejarah, juz memorize the whole book. smile.gif
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QUOTE(RyanH @ Jun 21 2012, 05:46 AM)
Sarawak was granted independence after PTB and became a country prior to joining the federation of Malay states, Singapore, Brunei and sabah.

However Brunei decided to pull out @ last minute because the federation are deemed not to benefit people of Brunei as they've large chunk of petroleum and insisted that the oil to be kept to the kingdom.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jun 21 2012, 06:01 AM)
Yes. A crown colony is just a fancy way of saying "this is part of the British Empire, you're going to follow our ways of governing it."
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PTB is a crown colony? lol. But my actual question is, did they really stopped after 1st July 1946?

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QUOTE(syuxx @ Jun 21 2012, 06:03 AM)
Sarawak once was Brunei. The some shit happen, the Pengiran ask help from Brooke. Brooke win the fight, he gave top Kuching part to him. Brooke when greed mode, he took over almost all of it and leave only brunei alone.

Some shit happen after brooke and charles died, no one can really mentadbir sarawak that time. so the brooke family give sarawak to british to help manage it. most people getting sadding because brooke once already promise to free sarawak but seems it not gonna happen when british take over.

then british rule sarawak until the comunists start making shit and finally the independence day with the tanah melayu, singapork, and sabah.

but then again, some idiot in sarawak here wanted to free sarawak as independece nation nowadays. thinking that theres good enough leader to manage shiats out of the country bahaha
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Pengiran no idea who's that. Charles never died yet. The story line of yours is quite different than the textbook.
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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Jun 21 2012, 07:31 AM)
1. no, it's now British Crown Colony (I think Hong Kong was BCC as well, before it passed to China)
2. allow Majlis Negeri to debate and vote if Sarawak wants to be as British Crown Colony.
3. PTB is military admin. Mostly military men and women in the state's admin.
4. yes.
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Finally know British Crown Colony in BM is Jajahan Mahkota British... Bodoh TS rclxub.gif
Okay now I it's much cleared. But not sure why my substitute teacher aka Panitia Sejarah said. Bukan Sehingga 1 Julai 1946. Iaitu, bermula pada hari tersebut. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(iSean @ Jun 21 2012, 02:40 AM)
Because tahi internet and wikipedia no this stuff. Looking to ask /k/ who still remember this shiatz  rclxub.gif
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Wtf you read the sejarah ?? Book already been manipulated by BN govt to change the history. Nowdays, all the teks book tell different story according by govt wants.. just like Hang Tuah ... bukan main cerita itu. Banyak hebat pasal hang tuah back in the 80's but after the truth.. All the Hang tuah stories disappered from the books. Govt dun like it .. remove it. Govt want to manipulate to make it theirs .. change it via school education.

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QUOTE(syuxx @ Jun 21 2012, 06:03 AM)
but then again, some idiot in sarawak here wanted to free sarawak as independece nation nowadays. thinking that theres good enough leader to manage shiats out of the country bahaha
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yes, because peninsular neglect sarawak and take all the resources to be used.
sarawak no need malaya leaders to lead sarawak. sarawakian needs local leader.
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QUOTE(syuxx @ Jun 21 2012, 06:03 AM)
Sarawak once was Brunei. The some shit happen, the Pengiran ask help from Brooke. Brooke win the fight, he gave top Kuching part to him. Brooke when greed mode, he took over almost all of it and leave only brunei alone.

Some shit happen after brooke and charles died, no one can really mentadbir sarawak that time. so the brooke family give sarawak to british to help manage it. most people getting sadding because brooke once already promise to free sarawak but seems it not gonna happen when british take over.

then british rule sarawak until the comunists start making shit and finally the independence day with the tanah melayu, singapork, and sabah.

but then again, some idiot in sarawak here wanted to free sarawak as independece nation nowadays. thinking that theres good enough leader to manage shiats out of the country bahaha
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Hi, Please comment with facts and figures, shall there be no justification your statement are deemed invalid and potentially stems an insult to the Royal family of Brunei.

Please revert with facts, shall it not, this comment shall be forwarded to the Government of Brunei.
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pentadbiran tentera and pentadbiran tanah jajahan mahkota are 2 different things bro.

now we are governed by democratically elected government but if suddenly got war n gomen gets toppled, state of emergency and army seize control, so army is the governing body - that is pentadbiran tentera.

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