since there are so many rotary tools in using to mod by many forumer,
so let us discuss about it advantage and disadvantage and ur experince on it!!!!

Dremel, Black and Decker RTX, Abletool, and some china ULTIMAX and taiwan product.







so now is the time for us to share it experience and as a reference for those who want to buy tat tools....

Thanks.

This post has been edited by ckyee88: Jan 12 2006, 06:34 PM

The original Dremel is far more durable than the RTX and maybe also the Ultimax. For some reason, the RTX cannot be used for over 15minutes under heavy load or else it might blow(overheats very fast). The Dremel however isnt as hot as the RTX.
Both are equally good(some versions of the Dremel have limited speed control compared to the RTX)

I've not tried other brands though, but if you're into alot of modding. I suggest the original Dremel.

Dremel Pro - RM5++ (For hardcore user)
Black and Decker RTX - RM2++
Cap ayam - RM70-1++(for beginner)

I have both the Black & Decker RTX and also the Dremel 395, and also used the Abletools before.

Among all i'd choose the Dremel 395 solely because of its reliability. It doesnt heat up as fast as the others and that means it would last longer.

My RTX blew up two times already coz of overheating. It just overheats too fast. But one thing with the RTX is its torque. Its the the best among the three. at low speeds, this thing hardly bogs down under load. Even the dremel lacks the massive amount of torque this thing has.

Lastly, the abletools is a good enough tool if u are really low on cash and just wanna do a little modding. torque and power wise looses out on the other two. rest it well and dont overheat it and it should serve you well.

how about abletool pro kit set???
hav same item with other brand,like cuting blade,grill,.......

I've used few brands including B&D RTX, Ultimax, Pro's Kit & Pegasus.

And as MetalZone mentioned, the RTX heats up too fast but the torque is superb.

For those on really tight budget could consider either ABLE TOOL or Ultimax.

But if planning to use for long term, then better get Pro's Kit or Dremel lor.

Mebe more forumers could share their xperience.

hi,bombman!!
i know u got sell the Pro kit and Ultimax, so wat the price u sell?
with the tool kit also?

hi any where else can get dremal? i scout on all the major shopping area in KL.. just only found B&D in jusco only.. any other area? another thing i noticed.. B&D has a extension tool to make the whole thing slimmer or into a more portable fine cutter. others dun have?

Probably at ACE Hardware Mid Valley?

Mine tool

ikan semilang, how u feel with this tools?
will it hot very fast?
the tools kit is tahan or not??
how much u buy it??

1.Not fast very hot.

2.Just have using it for cut my side panel. Here the result:-



Sorry for my 1st mod...

3.Bught 2nd from forumer RM40.

what brand is that ?

No idea but it wrote ABLETOOLS.

this question has been asked countless times. check this thread for your answer: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=172444&st=0

that extension tool is called a Flex Shaft. I have the B&D Flex Shaft. Dremel also has their own. They are all interchangeable and can be fixed on all three that i tried (B&D RTX, Dremel, Abletools).

i see the cut by abletools is not very smooth leh....
Will dremel and B&D hav same type of cut edge,,,,

what do u mean by that?
It's not the tool, but the user's skill that makes the difference.

has been a very long time since i visited the case modding thread.

hehe... not bad ah, quite a few people using Abletools since I first post up the picture a long time ago

Anyway, abletools is sufficient for normal modders who only once a while decide to cut up their case.

btw, haven't use my abletool for a long time cause I have not that much time to mod and also its spoiled. Got a question for you guys, the tool got stuck between the metal i was cutting and mechanism got jammed. Now it can still rotate cannot go to a high rpm and its current speed can't cut anything. Any idea how to fix it? My thought is that its the carbon brush but I'm not too sure.

tat abletools is easy got in the problem???
anyone has face the problem with it??

Problems do arise only if the tools are not handled properly, most of the time.

If already faulty, then just go change it (if got warranty).

And UGPM ckyee88

why ned to buy tis expensive tools???
simply use jigsaw already can cut hole la......

yes of coz jigsaw can cut hole also. but it all depends on what you wanna do. sometimes the dremel does a better job especially with precision and complicated designs.

Yups, both has own advantages. Dis applies to most tools. If not it wont me manufactured in the 1st place rite ż

Dis rotary tools 'll be needed specially whn cutting nearby areas. Another thing is jigsaw 'll produce a lot of vibration; so if gonna cut thin arcrylic, it may break/crack.

hey, where can buy the abletools and mention before,,,,,,,,,,,,

Still not sure how to cut using rotary tools??

Any tutorials?

Only way for u to really learn is to go get 1 n experiment. Y not get the rm70 Able kit n experiment. Nice n cheap.

im sorry for asking, but where can i find one?
i went round jalan pasar but i cudnt find any

got lar pal...i saw it...got chaplang and branded...have the mounting device too to hold it vertical...comes wif a set of disc and bits.

Ask bombman

mind to share the location of the shop???

Erm its in Jln Pasar...the row opposite Asia Park. its sumwhere in the middle and in a glass rack...oso in the middle part of the big glass rack...try asking for the item.

oh ok thanks....just bought the Ultimax from bombman...might need some accessories when the goods arrive.

Ultimax how much???
how many tools pieces???

Cap ayam - RM70-1++(for beginner)

where to get tiz??

if u finish using the cutting blae or some orther tools, then can it buy seperately,,,,,,,,,,
like just want to buy the cutting blade,,,,,,,,,,,
then must go back jln pasar find it??????

you can pm bombman HERE

have you read the previous post
btw....are you a lesbian

yes, the cutting wheels is replaceable. you can buy it in hardware stores that have it. no need to go to jln pasar everytime you want a new cutting wheels unless jln pasar is very close to your house

where is jalan pasar?
near chow kit?

btw....are you a lesbian
HOH?


This post has been edited by Hackezkk: Apr 2 2006, 06:29 PM

But i try asking many kedai logam but they dont even have it............
they dont even know the mini drill is wat..................

This post has been edited by ckyee88: Apr 3 2006, 12:19 AM

anyone can give the detail of the tools at here???
like the rpm , power, easy to overheat, the tool contains wat item..........and more details.............

jalan pasar is in pudu area.....close to pudu fire station and post office.

i tell you what....why dont you buy from bombman. you can even buy the cutting wheels from him. all this will come to your door steps. no need to go around asking shops

or you can print the rotary tools picture on the first post and bring it with you and show it to the sales person.

here are some links with the specs of the rotary tools.

Dremel
Black & Decker

oh btw...i see the RTX being sold at Jusco Midvalley for ~RM2XX.

rotary tools....hmmm...can attach those bits and cutting wheels to a normal power drill? use it sideways like a rotary. got good power.

any have try to attach the cutting blade to the normal drill before?????

it's totally different. rotary tools go to 30000RPM. Drills go to 3000RPM only.

but i think drill is more powerful than the small rotary...............

if can attach the tool kit of rotary tools to normal drill must can be save many money...............haha

Evry tool has it's own special use. Rotary tools' kits & accessories are nvr meant to be used w/ power drill. And in some cases u might injure urself (severely) by misusing power tools.

Besides safety issue, the cut-off wheels are quite fragile (specially the standard types). So gotta be careful when cutting process.

In conclusion, the best is u ppl get a cheapest rotary tool & xperience evrythin' urself.

just called home and my Ultimax have arrived......i'll take some pic for you guys tonight. for pricing and other info you can pm bombman

great...looking forward to read your personal mini review. i'm planning to get one but contemplating whether to get ultimax or pro's kit

Me too....

Ok...here's my little review for you guys. lets start off with some nice pictures.

(click thumbnail for larger picture)


the box


the rotary tool


accessories that came with the box


the dremel ready to rock



here is what included in the box:

1 rotary tool with ac-dc adapter
1 cutting wheels
4 piece of grindstones
5 drill bits (inside the small tube)
5 pirce of brass collets (used to hold the different size bits)

this kit is totally above my expectations. i didnt expect that the kit will come with any accessories at all. the tool feels like cheap plastic when i hold it the first time (but hey, you cant comment on that for the price you pay ). so i assamble the cutting wheels for a test run. being a first time dremel user, i was lost since there's no manual that came with this kit (i'm a dremel noob) after a few minutes, manage to assamble everything and i try to cut some sheet metal that i have. hey presto!!!....this cheap plastic does work.... so to cut it short, i list down here the pros and cons of this kit.

Pros:
~ comes with a lot of accessories for you to get started.
~ its cheap thus affordable...good for first timer to practice.
~ have a button to hold the dremel head in place when you want to attach the bits.
~ did i mention that it works!!!!

Cons:
~ no manual.
~ no speed control.
~ come with only one cutting wheels
~ feels like cheap plastic.

overall... i recomend this product to those who are first time user. since it is cheap, you can buy this tool and practice before moving to RTX or the real Dremel. the accessories that came with the kit should get you started with a few case mods and maybe some side panel too.....hehehe

ok thanks for reading

This post has been edited by Shah81: Apr 5 2006, 11:50 PM

Hehe...1st of all nice~ 2 hear dat it arrived safely. 2nd, happy that u r njoyin' it

Bout the drill bits, there should be 5 pcs total. The other 2 are vry fine, so guess I x nmpk (FYI, they're HSS bits...so can use drill on metals too)

1 thing I myself don like bout this Ultimax is that there's no manual.

All items (specially power tools) should act incl a manual. However Pro's Kit do include

And yups, I too personally recommend this Ultimax brand for starters or those who'll just use once/twice

omg...i recheck and find 2 more very fine drill bits. they are so fine like needles . my review is updated....thnx for the info.

Hahaha...yeah, they're so fine dat many 'll surely miss. But u wont need 'em also xcept for drilling PCBs

Remember boys and girls....when handling extremely fast and deadly power tools....always think safety!

SAFETY FIRST! WEAR GOGGLES (not for swimming) and GLOVES to prevent injury!


Great review there dude....thanx. i think i'll be getting mine too. i malas wanna go jalan pasar there and buy. so i will likely get from bomb.

when u mention its for drilling PCBs, i somehow think shah will be able to use them.... the dude is an electronics mod freak .... i wont be surprised if he mods a speed control into the tool itself.

i have been searching for a rotary tool in JB, and cud not find any,

they will ask me back... owh well....

at least now i know, i can get it from bombman....

Aiyaaaaaaa. For a electronics mod guy the speed controller is very simple oni. It's just a rheostat. I got so many high current mechanical speed controls in my Tamiya section of the storeroom. kekekekek.
Actually that wud b a really good "How to" mod for the benefit of the others here who wanna mod the cheap rotary tools. Shah? U wanna do us all a favor?

This post has been edited by ianho: Apr 6 2006, 06:14 PM

actually there's an easier way to mod this dremel without voiding your warranty. the adaptor spec for this dremell is 12v @ 0.8A. so go buy a multi-voltage adapter with at least 1A and stick that to the dremel. now choose different voltage for different speed...12V, 9V, 7V etc. just dont try any higher than 12V....the motor might burn-out.

note: becareful with those cheap adaptor because the voltage output is usually way off. recheck with a multimeter to be sure. u might be feeding 15V when you set 12V at the adaptor

excellent idea!
with the ultimax plugged in at 12v@0.8A....how fast u think it is? 15000rpm? Well, since the B&D RTX is at 2A and max 30000rpm.

Will the the lower power do any damage to the tool?

dont have any idea how fast the ultimax is spinning. but the motors that run at lower voltage will sometimes tend to consume more current than at its rated voltage. so thats why i suggest an adaptor with at least 1A or else you might burn the adaptor.

no harm will be done. its like undervolting your case fan.

Macam ni you dapat fikir. Thumbs up for you, thanks for the info.

Yups, I always emphasize on dis. Modding is full of fun but newbies specially pls exercise utmost caution whn using any tools. Familiarize 1st

Haha...now only I knw shah is well-versed in electronics. Vry gd; looking 4ward 2 share more w/ u. Hope can contribute to all forumers here

The Pro's Kit rotary tool that I bought from you last year still kicking strong and vibration free even it's already consumes more than 70Pcs of black&decker cutting wheels. A kick ass product from you

70pcs??? that is alots. so far how many casing u cut?

Haha...so happy 2 hear dat dude. It's Pro's Kit after all, highly reliable brand for various tools. Wht I love bout it is really no vibration; which in turn make smoother cuttings. So less grinding work later

If he's referring to Standard Cut-Off Discs, then I'm not shocked that he used so many since to just cut a single side panel 'll consume more than 6 pcs (depending on speed)

Anyone know where can i buy cut-off wheel in KL Area or jalan pasar? I buy the abletools, there just have 3 pcs of cut wheel in the box ,but i careless broken all to pieces when i cut casing (junior level)
or

i go to Enoes at 1u...there got sell the cut off wheel (black & decker),but too bad...there just selling the 81 piece in a package (just wheel) cost RM100...... =.="
and also go to Ikano power centre ( Home-fix ,Harvey Norman, Ace) ..but unlucky.....didn't sell

Anyone can sold a few pieces to me ????

This post has been edited by Cloud0072003: May 29 2006, 10:51 AM

If u want, do PM me dude. I do sell separately to many forumers here. Just helping u guyz

This post has been edited by bombman: May 30 2006, 12:49 AM

waa...u selling cutting wheel also ah?nice man...

anybody know the price for cap ayam rotary tool?where can i get it?

Not my main biz but more like community service to fellow forumers. Since there hav bn high demand & I myself use lotsa wheels so why not offer some rite? No need for u all go buy the whole set which not only costs a lot but may be a waste later

If u r interested, do PM me

Cap ayam rotary can buy , but cap ayam cutting wheel try to avoid it. i advice u get a better 1 becoz cap ayam cutting wheel easily broken at high speed and may cut ur throat or eyes is unlucky .


So far my area sell pro's kit rptary tools for RM109 if not mistaken

This post has been edited by johnnycp: May 31 2006, 06:03 PM

hey you can find a Pro's Kit shop in Jalan Pasar. bump into this shop last week. they sell loads of Pro's Kit tools including those rotary tools. if i'm not mistaken they are the supplier in Malaysia. go there and see if you guys can find some good bargain. i didn't have the time to check because i was in a hurry....

About 3 casings only, but mostly use it to cut many things, screws, chain, plastics etc, because I love DIY. BTW Bombman, how much is the sanding drums? 1 set i mean.

Haha...vry interestin' DIY

Just the drum or w/ da band? Feel free 2 PM me dude

where can buy the cutting wheel. jln pasar got?

Yes. Got selling at Jalan Pasar. Our forumer also got selling. Try pm bombman.

Y doncha suggest em' to ur pRend tat got laser-cutting service??

how much does dremel multi-pro 395 set cost????

Da prend always bz..

Around RM450-500...

yalorr., big boss ma. sure bZ alwiz

We are selling all type of rotary tool, Carving tool and etc. Suitable for DIY purpose

http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/touchdiy.htm

Feel free to drop by our shop for the tool you all need

EH Global @ Touch D.I.Y
Block 10-8-8, Queen's Avenue, Jalan Bayam,
Off Jalan Peel, Cheras 55100 Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.

Business Hour:
Monday - Friday 9am-6.30pm

We accept Credit Card, Cash or Bank Transfer.

Email: eric@touchdiy.com

Is this Pro's Kit any good?
I need to drill PCBs (0.8mm - 1.0mm)
Also cut PCB

How's the price?

Pro's Kit on Mudah

Thanks,

Any help here?