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TSckyee88
post Apr 3 2006, 01:22 PM

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any have try to attach the cutting blade to the normal drill before?????
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post Apr 3 2006, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Apr 3 2006, 12:05 PM)
rotary tools....hmmm...can attach those bits and cutting wheels to a normal power drill? use it sideways like a rotary. got good power.
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it's totally different. rotary tools go to 30000RPM. Drills go to 3000RPM only.
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post Apr 3 2006, 05:47 PM

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but i think drill is more powerful than the small rotary...............
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post Apr 4 2006, 01:32 PM

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if can attach the tool kit of rotary tools to normal drill must can be save many money...............haha

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Apr 3 2006, 12:05 PM)
rotary tools....hmmm...can attach those bits and cutting wheels to a normal power drill? use it sideways like a rotary. got good power.
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QUOTE(ckyee88 @ Apr 3 2006, 01:22 PM)
any have try to attach the cutting blade to the normal drill before?????
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QUOTE(ckyee88 @ Apr 3 2006, 05:47 PM)
but i think drill is more powerful than the small rotary...............
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QUOTE(ckyee88 @ Apr 4 2006, 01:32 PM)
if can attach the tool kit of rotary tools to normal drill must can be save many money...............haha
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Evry tool has it's own special use. Rotary tools' kits & accessories are nvr meant to be used w/ power drill. And in some cases u might injure urself (severely) by misusing power tools.

Besides safety issue, the cut-off wheels are quite fragile (specially the standard types). So gotta be careful when cutting process.

In conclusion, the best is u ppl get a cheapest rotary tool & xperience evrythin' urself. tongue.gif

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post Apr 5 2006, 03:59 PM

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just called home and my Ultimax have arrived......i'll take some pic for you guys tonight. for pricing and other info you can pm bombman rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 5 2006, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Apr 5 2006, 03:59 PM)
just called home and my Ultimax have arrived......i'll take some pic for you guys tonight. for pricing and other info you can pm bombman rolleyes.gif
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great...looking forward to read your personal mini review. i'm planning to get one but contemplating whether to get ultimax or pro's kit

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QUOTE(WildChai @ Apr 5 2006, 04:12 PM)
great...looking forward to read your personal mini review. i'm planning to get one but contemplating whether to get ultimax or pro's kit
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Me too....
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post Apr 5 2006, 11:16 PM

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Ok...here's my little review for you guys. lets start off with some nice pictures.

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the box

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the rotary tool

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accessories that came with the box

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the dremel ready to rock



here is what included in the box:


1 rotary tool with ac-dc adapter
1 cutting wheels
4 piece of grindstones
5 drill bits (inside the small tube)
5 pirce of brass collets (used to hold the different size bits)

this kit is totally above my expectations. i didnt expect that the kit will come with any accessories at all. the tool feels like cheap plastic when i hold it the first time (but hey, you cant comment on that for the price you pay icon_rolleyes.gif ). so i assamble the cutting wheels for a test run. being a first time dremel user, i was lost since there's no manual that came with this kit doh.gif (i'm a dremel noob) after a few minutes, manage to assamble everything and i try to cut some sheet metal that i have. hey presto!!!....this cheap plastic does work.... rclxms.gif so to cut it short, i list down here the pros and cons of this kit.

Pros: rclxm9.gif
~ comes with a lot of accessories for you to get started.
~ its cheap thus affordable...good for first timer to practice.
~ have a button to hold the dremel head in place when you want to attach the bits.
~ did i mention that it works!!!!

Cons: rclxub.gif
~ no manual.
~ no speed control.
~ come with only one cutting wheels
~ feels like cheap plastic.

overall... i recomend this product to those who are first time user. since it is cheap, you can buy this tool and practice before moving to RTX or the real Dremel. the accessories that came with the kit should get you started with a few case mods and maybe some side panel too.....hehehe laugh.gif

ok thanks for reading cool.gif

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post Apr 5 2006, 11:39 PM

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Hehe...1st of all nice~ 2 hear dat it arrived safely. 2nd, happy that u r njoyin' it rclxms.gif

Bout the drill bits, there should be 5 pcs total. The other 2 are vry fine, so guess I x nmpk tongue.gif (FYI, they're HSS bits...so can use drill on metals too)

1 thing I myself don like bout this Ultimax is that there's no manual. cry.gif

All items (specially power tools) should act incl a manual. However Pro's Kit do include rclxm9.gif

And yups, I too personally recommend this Ultimax brand for starters or those who'll just use once/twice thumbup.gif
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post Apr 5 2006, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(bombman @ Apr 5 2006, 11:39 PM)
Bout the drill bits, there should be 5 pcs total. The other 2 are vry fine, so guess I x nmpk  tongue.gif (FYI, they're HSS bits...so can use drill on metals too)
omg...i recheck and find 2 more very fine drill bits. they are so fine like needles shocking.gif . my review is updated....thnx for the info.
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Apr 5 2006, 11:49 PM)
omg...i recheck and find 2 more very fine drill bits. they are so fine like needles shocking.gif . my review is updated....thnx for the info.
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Hahaha...yeah, they're so fine dat many 'll surely miss. But u wont need 'em also xcept for drilling PCBs wink.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 11:23 AM

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Remember boys and girls....when handling extremely fast and deadly power tools....always think safety!

SAFETY FIRST! WEAR GOGGLES (not for swimming) and GLOVES to prevent injury! laugh.gif


Great review there dude....thanx. i think i'll be getting mine too. i malas wanna go jalan pasar there and buy. so i will likely get from bomb.
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QUOTE(bombman @ Apr 6 2006, 01:20 AM)
Hahaha...yeah, they're so fine dat many 'll surely miss. But u wont need 'em also xcept for drilling PCBs wink.gif
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when u mention its for drilling PCBs, i somehow think shah will be able to use them.... the dude is an electronics mod freak tongue.gif .... i wont be surprised if he mods a speed control into the tool itself. laugh.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 12:15 PM

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i have been searching for a rotary tool in JB, and cud not find any,

they will ask me back... owh well....

at least now i know, i can get it from bombman....


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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Apr 6 2006, 11:37 AM)
when u mention its for drilling PCBs, i somehow think shah will be able to use them.... the dude is an electronics mod freak tongue.gif .... i wont be surprised if he mods a speed control into the tool itself. laugh.gif
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Aiyaaaaaaa. For a electronics mod guy the speed controller is very simple oni. It's just a rheostat. I got so many high current mechanical speed controls in my Tamiya section of the storeroom. kekekekek.
Actually that wud b a really good "How to" mod for the benefit of the others here who wanna mod the cheap rotary tools. Shah? U wanna do us all a favor? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Apr 6 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 6 2006, 06:12 PM)
Aiyaaaaaaa. For a electronics mod guy the speed controller is very simple oni. It's just a rheostat. I got so many high current mechanical speed controls in my Tamiya section of the storeroom. kekekekek.
Actually that wud b a really good "How to" mod for the benefit of the others here who wanna mod the cheap rotary tools. Shah? U wanna do us all a favor?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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actually there's an easier way to mod this dremel without voiding your warranty. the adaptor spec for this dremell is 12v @ 0.8A. so go buy a multi-voltage adapter with at least 1A and stick that to the dremel. now choose different voltage for different speed...12V, 9V, 7V etc. just dont try any higher than 12V....the motor might burn-out. smile.gif

note: becareful with those cheap adaptor because the voltage output is usually way off. recheck with a multimeter to be sure. u might be feeding 15V when you set 12V at the adaptor sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Apr 6 2006, 10:05 PM)
actually there's an easier way to mod this dremel without voiding your warranty. the adaptor spec for this dremell is 12v @ 0.8A. so go buy a multi-voltage adapter with at least 1A and stick that to the dremel. now choose different voltage for different speed...12V, 9V, 7V etc. just dont try any higher than 12V....the motor might burn-out. smile.gif

note: becareful with those cheap adaptor because the voltage output is usually way off. recheck with a multimeter to be sure. u might be feeding 15V when you set 12V at the adaptor sweat.gif
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excellent idea! thumbup.gif
with the ultimax plugged in at 12v@0.8A....how fast u think it is? 15000rpm? Well, since the B&D RTX is at 2A and max 30000rpm.

Will the the lower power do any damage to the tool?
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QUOTE(WildChai @ Apr 7 2006, 12:33 AM)
excellent idea!  thumbup.gif
with the ultimax plugged in at 12v@0.8A....how fast u think it is? 15000rpm? Well, since the B&D RTX is at 2A and max 30000rpm.

Will the the lower power do any damage to the tool?
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dont have any idea how fast the ultimax is spinning. but the motors that run at lower voltage will sometimes tend to consume more current than at its rated voltage. so thats why i suggest an adaptor with at least 1A or else you might burn the adaptor.

no harm will be done. its like undervolting your case fan.
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Macam ni you dapat fikir. Thumbs up for you, thanks for the info.

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