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 No qualified ppl even fresh grad RM100k pa., Investment banking is so hard to hire

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post Jun 26 2012, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 26 2012, 01:14 PM)
So right now there's no supply but there's demand, shouldn't your company increase the salary to attract the people that they want?
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Increase to what price? RM7k basic for junior?

Increasing too much I might as well get experienced guy or poach from CF desks?

The art is to create supply, not to keep increasing price. My side only needs 2, CF side needs 3. So, no need so desperate. Just that it is frustrating.


Added on June 26, 2012, 7:03 pm
QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 26 2012, 08:11 AM)
I was wondering because none of the investment bankers I've met so far in Singapore considers RHB, CIMB, MBB or for that matter DBS, OCBC or UOB as their peers in the ASEAN context. They are still considered retail banks with little ill staffed outfits that are only capable of feeding off the leftovers.

Well, at least that was their vehement position.
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Yes, we are a small bank. However, just in case you find problem squeezing into bulge bracket, we can work out something for you.

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post Jun 27 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 27 2012, 10:31 AM)
Then why don't you guys do that then?
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Doing it, but just that the results may not be immediate.

Thus, my frustration of not able to get people who have good degree, good english, analytical skills and read financial statements.

Ppl just want to send me CV and try for an interview, but not ready for it. To be in IB, u r expected to have knowledge that can withstand the test. Engineering or not, no excuse.

So for now, still evaluating some candidates but waiting to look into others.


Added on June 29, 2012, 2:34 amSianz... When will talents come?

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post Aug 15 2012, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(eric.liew @ Jul 8 2012, 02:46 AM)
Hye I saw this job in jobstreet too ler after I search from lowyat. Can give me a try as I'm fresh graduate from Northern University of Malaysia UUM

here's are the core course that I attended :
• Risk Management
• Financial Risk Management
• Investment Analysis
• Financial Modeling
• Basic Econometric
• International Finance
• Corporate Finance
• Personal Finance
• Strategic Management
• Financial Management I/II
• Macroeconomic
• Microeconomic

result for those unrelated subjects such as Malaysia's study not good but most of the finance related subject I able to score an A or B+  smile.gif 
Read CNBC Bloomberg watch Reuters Insider almost every because i'm really love financial things : )
if you're interest in my resume pls provide me your email: )
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I seems to offered you an interview before. pls tell me if i have not. every1 deserve a chance. it will be 2 mins or 20 mins or 2 hours only
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post Aug 19 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ Aug 15 2012, 11:38 AM)
I am willing to go for an interview. Wether I embarrass myself or not is another story, but it is nice to take up the challenge.
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Send me your CV.. text in PM will do as well... we can have a call to discuss


Added on August 19, 2012, 8:18 pm
QUOTE(ArSe-SeNG @ Aug 15 2012, 05:39 PM)
To be fair to TS, I actually know someone who knows him.  He is genuine. Hope that clarifies.
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Thanks for help. I could be an arsehole but genuinely hiring. Workflow so well that now need to hire 3 fresh grads and two interns.


Added on August 19, 2012, 8:19 pm
QUOTE(kitkit88 @ Aug 15 2012, 11:57 AM)
i'm willing to for interview as well. I'm ACCA affliate and took finance paper as optional paper. Other than that, i m currently working in Big 4 for 3 years to date and my current position is an audit senior.
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Send me ur CV


Added on August 19, 2012, 8:22 pm
QUOTE(z21j @ Aug 15 2012, 01:17 PM)
How would you define good people? Those can work one will definitely ask for super damn high salary and in the end you will prefer to hire two personnel which are above average.

I prefer the later. Human capital need training. Dont be so selective.
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I just need 3 good fresh grads and 2 good interns... How good a fresh grad is that they can ask 5k?

+ our increments can be really good for good ppl

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post Aug 25 2012, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(Shinden9 @ Aug 25 2012, 12:03 AM)
I have read some of the posts here and cant help myself from giving my honest opinion.

I have been working in a local IB for the past few years. All I can say is IBs never recruit from any forum, lowyat, etc.

For those who desperately wants to enter top tier IBs, unless you are a datuks' son or daughters or graduated from prestigious unis, go equip yourself with the necessary work experience or qualification first before applying. Then go harass the IBs hr dept or get someone from inside to recommend u. After that, it's just a matter of luck.
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Funny enough. We just recruited two from this forum alone.

Unless u r cimb, mayb u can come and laugh at my bank. In any case, I am still tier 1 IB.

Is about getting creative and deliver results, I only care about getting the right person, not the methods.

Yes, I recruited very good ppl (ranked uni) from Low Yat to work at IB front office. and i still want to hire 1 more fresh grad.

so what? u want to come to my office for interview now?

if you have honest opinion, u dun need a new account to give just that opinion.

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post Aug 25 2012, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Aug 25 2012, 04:02 PM)
In my opinion and in accordance to my years of working experience in IBs, there are only 3 tier 1 local IBs, i.e. CIMB, Maybank and AmBank, and the rest are tier 2 or even tier 3, not to mention the lowest should be those converted from universal brokers. RHB used to be tier 1, now should be tier 2.
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You must have worked too long in the industry and too busy to not notice where AmBank is now.

As long as ECM is concerned, Ambank cannot claim to be Tier 1 but RHB can.

A simple guide would be whether the bank would secure any bookrunning role in the equity transactions.

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post Aug 25 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Aug 25 2012, 08:03 PM)
There are no tier 1 IB in Malaysia.
All, including CIMB, is tier 3 at best.

The tier 1 are those goldman and morgan stanleys of the world.
Those co only have offices in Singapore and not Malaysia.
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Tier 1 local IB


Added on August 25, 2012, 8:22 pmanyway, the case remains, I have one to two vacancies for fresh graduates to fill up

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post Aug 26 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 26 2012, 02:41 PM)
I wish to ask TS some questions

-Why working excessively long hours is a norm in IB? Can't the management just increase the headcount even if it's just contract position to reduce the workload distribution per person

-Is TS still working ~100 hours per week currently? Your posts seems that you are enjoying what you are doing

-Do you or your colleagues have any health issues which is the consequence of working excessively long hours?
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1. Cos good ppl r really hard to find. Even contract staff cannot be filled easily. If any, I think a concierge/maid service would help to reduce the downtime or less productive time.

2. Yes, this week seems to be 100 hours.

3. Non actually died from that.

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post Aug 28 2012, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 27 2012, 07:22 PM)
Are you kidding me? 70-100 hour / week is like 14-20hours per day if it is common 5 days work. Make me scare to for interview with an investment bank next week. rclxub.gif
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I see you can count. u obviously have some advanced numerical skill. pls send me your cv now and we have a call to discuss.


Added on August 28, 2012, 3:00 am
QUOTE(monsteru @ Aug 27 2012, 09:55 PM)
I'm willing to work hard and learn so long i get paid well. im from banking call centre tho with a record of 50+ ours of OT ><
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we hire call centre ppl too.. to run our back office.

for ECM, we need top 200 ranked uni with IB ready brain

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post Sep 2 2012, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 31 2012, 09:54 AM)
RM70k pa = RM 5.83k per month
work like 100 hours a week, while other normal jobs work not more than 50 hours a week, they are getting paid at rm2.8k for freshgrads

hence what so special about the high pay, you work double the hours than most people, so you deserved for the double of most people earn

don't count in the bonus, that would be an unfair comparison
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I am amazed how short-sighted our graduates could be. Perhaps it should be called job seeking myopia.

IB not only give u more $ up front, it forces u to grow fast, thus promoting u very fast. Who gives u 30% increment year after year if you perform?
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post Sep 8 2012, 08:56 PM

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Need good ppl now
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post Sep 9 2012, 05:28 PM

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There is a different of not so high and so not high...
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post Oct 9 2012, 02:36 AM

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replied... IB job still on


Added on October 9, 2012, 2:36 am
QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Sep 9 2012, 06:45 PM)
When I read this thread, I can't help but feel that the only attraction to this IB job is the money. There seems to be a lack of focus on career development and knowledge gain.

It's like, hey I am someone who has connection with so and so politicians, I got a lot of money from it and now I want to hire some junior IBs with the attraction of big bucks. I only offer big bucks, other than that the junior IB can find his/her way around and work their ass off that 50-70 hours a week. This brings the next question, why do these juniors need to work so hard if there are capable seniors to lead them? Has there been a mass resignation of seniors? The knowledge base of this company is not large so money is the only motivation?
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50 is no where near working their ass off. u need to have sharper mind

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post Oct 9 2012, 11:50 AM

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post Oct 9 2012, 05:04 PM

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come come come apply lar
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post Oct 9 2012, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(thefridge @ Oct 9 2012, 07:08 PM)
How is the assessment like?
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not easy
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post Oct 12 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(xinde1314 @ Oct 11 2012, 12:22 PM)
Hello, IBank Bean Bag,

I am a fresh grad, I am interest to apply for the IB position.
I already PM you just now. Wait for your reply if the position still available.
Thank you.
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Just interviewed 30 mins ago.

Sorry for the crazy timing. Any others?

Pls know our requirements well and be prepared.
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post Oct 12 2012, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(xinde1314 @ Oct 12 2012, 01:59 AM)
Thank you for the interview. Knowing that insufficient knowledge in myself and not prepared at all for it.

Good Night.
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was thinking of doing another interview but no more applicant at this time.

Good nite.
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post Oct 15 2012, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 12 2012, 02:33 AM)
Epic thread, had to reply.

To TS, I am from one of the big 3 strat houses, i.e. mbb. Even we have difficulty recruiting in Msia, appears the top talent has all fled.

Having said that, we recruited one guy from this very forum..
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I recruited one intern (ivy league) and one fresh grad (top student locally) from this forum, and the quality is indeed good.

Looking fwd to receive more CV as new jobs led to another two investment banking vacancies at ECM.

Need someone who speak IB and not bullshit. Dun tell me u duno the basic questions for IB.

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post Oct 15 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Oct 15 2012, 09:03 AM)
ITT : lowyat.net becomes a consulting/banking recruitment website.
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unfortunately, yes. but very painful too.

so many ill-prepared CV that we have to look through before seeing 1 good 1?

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